Re: [Sursound] Pitch(OT)

2013-04-26 Thread Richard Dobson
I am not clear just what the issue is here. C and A are defined by the distance between them; A is not a sharp C. All the notes are equally special, there is nothing otherwise special about middle C, and it is in any case only approximately in the middle for the modern concert piano. For most

Re: [Sursound] Pitch(OT)

2013-04-26 Thread David Pickett
At 04:50 26-04-13, Richard Dobson wrote: I am not clear just what the issue is here. The issue is that if one is going to be precise about the Physics and Maths discussed here, one should preferably extend that precision to musical considerations. ...there is nothing otherwise special

Re: [Sursound] Pitch(OT)

2013-04-26 Thread Richard Dobson
On 26/04/2013 15:35, David Pickett wrote: .. For most other instruments it is not in the middle at all. It is is the lowest note on the standard flute, almost the highest note on the bassoon Have you heard the first note of the Rite of Spring - a C one octave higher? This note is playable

Re: [Sursound] Pitch(OT)

2013-04-26 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 26 April 2013 16:28 +0100 Richard Dobson richarddob...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Beethoven 9th asks the choir basses to sing a top D and that I can confirm is decidedly painful at modern concert pitch. At early 19th-C chorton it was hopefully a bit easier. Trained good singers can manage

Re: [Sursound] Pitch(OT)

2013-04-26 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 26 April 2013 14:12 -0500 David Pickett d...@fugato.com wrote: Yes, but mostly the bottom note is an A, with only once a G. And when you get to the important fortissimo top Es and Fs, do you leave them to the Tenors? Eh, what do you sing? The tenors have enough on their plates dealing

Re: [Sursound] Pitch(OT)

2013-04-26 Thread Richard Dobson
On 26/04/2013 20:12, David Pickett wrote: At 10:28 26-04-13, Richard Dobson wrote: Beethoven 9th asks the choir basses to sing a top D and that I can confirm is decidedly painful at modern concert pitch. At early 19th-C chorton it was hopefully a bit easier. Trained good singers can manage it,

Re: [Sursound] Pitch(OT)

2013-04-26 Thread David Pickett
At 14:30 26-04-13, Paul Hodges wrote: --On 26 April 2013 14:12 -0500 David Pickett d...@fugato.com wrote: Yes, but mostly the bottom note is an A, with only once a G. And when you get to the important fortissimo top Es and Fs, do you leave them to the Tenors? Eh, what do you sing? I can

Re: [Sursound] Pitch(OT)

2013-04-25 Thread Robert Greene
To each his own. I do not care for the creeping up of pitch. Yes of course re equal temperament. But the original subject was about 440 versus middle C-- pretty far off however one figures it. In just intonation (where C= (3/5) 440 if A 440 is the standard) middle C is 264 , it is still pretty