Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 116, Issue 3

[Aaron Heller]

One more detail... I had to create an Aggregate audio device to get it
working with Jack. I don't remember the details, but could refresh my
memory if anyone needs them.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:59 PM, Aaron Heller  wrote:

> I have a "Mid-2010" Mac Mini connected to a Sherwood Newcastle R-972 via
> HDMI. The "direct" input to the receiver shows up on the Mac Mini as an
> 8-channel audio output device. I'm not a MaxMSP user but it works fine with
> Plogue Bidule.  You set up the channel mappings with the Audio MIDI Setup
> program.
>
> Aaron Heller
> Menlo Park, CA  US
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:54 AM, Augustine Leudar <
> augustineleu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Marc,
> > The processing involve dhere is not too CPU intensive - rather its
> whether
> > the graphics card is capable of transmitting 8 channels of audio over
> HDMI
> > that I am wondering about .
> > Marc - its a commercial project and we will be connected online to
> > update/make changes if necessary. As mentioned its possible to
> > automatically tell the max patch which drivers ot use etc. I totally
> agree
> > with you on "if it can go wrong it will" and it has to be rock solid -
> the
> > last permanent install we did the cleaners kept unpluggin it - - we'd get
> > the call "its not working !!) - wed drive two hours to ge tthere and
> switch
> > it back on. Lessons learnt. Linux would be my prefferedd choice for
> > stablitiy but it doesnt have the software tools to do what is needed in
> > this instance (Im a big fan of soundscape renderer on linux ) nor are
> those
> > involved in the project profficient in Linux. I have however found
> windows
> > 10 to be a complete pain in the ass for anything thats installed for more
> > than a couple of days. This will be for a year.
> > best
> > Gus
> >
> > On 8 March 2018 at 09:50, Dave Hunt 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Mac Minis are not that expensive, though whether they are adequate
> depends
> > > on how much audio processing is required.
> > >
> > > After set up you may not need a monitor, keyboard or mouse, though
> these
> > > are fairly cheap and readily available now. These are only required if
> > > something goes wrong, usually when an audio interface or other external
> > > unit is not powered up when the computer boots.They can be set up to
> boot
> > > and run a program automatically to specified times, or to run a program
> > > when booted.
> > >
> > > If it is a long term install, the cost of this part of the system
> becomes
> > > very low compared to other installation costs, and the daily
> management of
> > > the whole.
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > >
> > > Dave Hunt
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8 Mar 2018, at 01:34, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Augustine Leudar 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Sursound] realtime 5.1 streaming over hdmi ?
> > > > Date: 7 March 2018 18:37:46 GMT
> > > > To: Surround Sound discussion group 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes we got it working immediately on the Mac - one channel on
> > > speaker.bBut
> > > > obviously there's an extra cist involved for client if they have to
> buy a
> > > > Mac! Its a longterm install.
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, jim moses  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> The Mac HDMI out sounds like your best bet. You may need to work
> with
> > > the
> > > >> audio-midi-setup app to make it work (seeting the # of channels and
> then
> > > >> assignments in 'configure speakers').
> > > >>
> > > >> jim
> > >
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> >
> >
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> > Company Number : NI635217
> > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd,
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Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 116, Issue 3

[Aaron Heller]

I have a "Mid-2010" Mac Mini connected to a Sherwood Newcastle R-972 via
HDMI. The "direct" input to the receiver shows up on the Mac Mini as an
8-channel audio output device. I'm not a MaxMSP user but it works fine with
Plogue Bidule.  You set up the channel mappings with the Audio MIDI Setup
program.

Aaron Heller
Menlo Park, CA  US

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:54 AM, Augustine Leudar 
wrote:
>
> Hi Marc,
> The processing involve dhere is not too CPU intensive - rather its whether
> the graphics card is capable of transmitting 8 channels of audio over HDMI
> that I am wondering about .
> Marc - its a commercial project and we will be connected online to
> update/make changes if necessary. As mentioned its possible to
> automatically tell the max patch which drivers ot use etc. I totally agree
> with you on "if it can go wrong it will" and it has to be rock solid - the
> last permanent install we did the cleaners kept unpluggin it - - we'd get
> the call "its not working !!) - wed drive two hours to ge tthere and
switch
> it back on. Lessons learnt. Linux would be my prefferedd choice for
> stablitiy but it doesnt have the software tools to do what is needed in
> this instance (Im a big fan of soundscape renderer on linux ) nor are
those
> involved in the project profficient in Linux. I have however found windows
> 10 to be a complete pain in the ass for anything thats installed for more
> than a couple of days. This will be for a year.
> best
> Gus
>
> On 8 March 2018 at 09:50, Dave Hunt  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Mac Minis are not that expensive, though whether they are adequate
depends
> > on how much audio processing is required.
> >
> > After set up you may not need a monitor, keyboard or mouse, though these
> > are fairly cheap and readily available now. These are only required if
> > something goes wrong, usually when an audio interface or other external
> > unit is not powered up when the computer boots.They can be set up to
boot
> > and run a program automatically to specified times, or to run a program
> > when booted.
> >
> > If it is a long term install, the cost of this part of the system
becomes
> > very low compared to other installation costs, and the daily management
of
> > the whole.
> >
> > Ciao,
> >
> > Dave Hunt
> >
> >
> > On 8 Mar 2018, at 01:34, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote:
> >
> > > From: Augustine Leudar 
> > > Subject: Re: [Sursound] realtime 5.1 streaming over hdmi ?
> > > Date: 7 March 2018 18:37:46 GMT
> > > To: Surround Sound discussion group 
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes we got it working immediately on the Mac - one channel on
> > speaker.bBut
> > > obviously there's an extra cist involved for client if they have to
buy a
> > > Mac! Its a longterm install.
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, jim moses  wrote:
> > >
> > >> The Mac HDMI out sounds like your best bet. You may need to work with
> > the
> > >> audio-midi-setup app to make it work (seeting the # of channels and
then
> > >> assignments in 'configure speakers').
> > >>
> > >> jim
> >
> > ___
> > Sursound mailing list
> > Sursound@music.vt.edu
> > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here,
> > edit account or options, view archives and so on.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Augustine Leudar
> Artistic Director Magik Door LTD
> Company Number : NI635217
> Registered 63 Ballycoan rd,
> Belfast BT88LL
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Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 116, Issue 3

[Augustine Leudar]

Hi Marc,
The processing involve dhere is not too CPU intensive - rather its whether
the graphics card is capable of transmitting 8 channels of audio over HDMI
that I am wondering about .
Marc - its a commercial project and we will be connected online to
update/make changes if necessary. As mentioned its possible to
automatically tell the max patch which drivers ot use etc. I totally agree
with you on "if it can go wrong it will" and it has to be rock solid - the
last permanent install we did the cleaners kept unpluggin it - - we'd get
the call "its not working !!) - wed drive two hours to ge tthere and switch
it back on. Lessons learnt. Linux would be my prefferedd choice for
stablitiy but it doesnt have the software tools to do what is needed in
this instance (Im a big fan of soundscape renderer on linux ) nor are those
involved in the project profficient in Linux. I have however found windows
10 to be a complete pain in the ass for anything thats installed for more
than a couple of days. This will be for a year.
best
Gus

On 8 March 2018 at 09:50, Dave Hunt  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Mac Minis are not that expensive, though whether they are adequate depends
> on how much audio processing is required.
>
> After set up you may not need a monitor, keyboard or mouse, though these
> are fairly cheap and readily available now. These are only required if
> something goes wrong, usually when an audio interface or other external
> unit is not powered up when the computer boots.They can be set up to boot
> and run a program automatically to specified times, or to run a program
> when booted.
>
> If it is a long term install, the cost of this part of the system becomes
> very low compared to other installation costs, and the daily management of
> the whole.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Dave Hunt
>
>
> On 8 Mar 2018, at 01:34, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote:
>
> > From: Augustine Leudar 
> > Subject: Re: [Sursound] realtime 5.1 streaming over hdmi ?
> > Date: 7 March 2018 18:37:46 GMT
> > To: Surround Sound discussion group 
> >
> >
> > Yes we got it working immediately on the Mac - one channel on
> speaker.bBut
> > obviously there's an extra cist involved for client if they have to buy a
> > Mac! Its a longterm install.
> >
> > On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, jim moses  wrote:
> >
> >> The Mac HDMI out sounds like your best bet. You may need to work with
> the
> >> audio-midi-setup app to make it work (seeting the # of channels and then
> >> assignments in 'configure speakers').
> >>
> >> jim
>
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Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 116, Issue 3

[Dave Hunt]

Hi,

Mac Minis are not that expensive, though whether they are adequate depends on 
how much audio processing is required.

After set up you may not need a monitor, keyboard or mouse, though these are 
fairly cheap and readily available now. These are only required if something 
goes wrong, usually when an audio interface or other external unit is not 
powered up when the computer boots.They can be set up to boot and run a program 
automatically to specified times, or to run a program when booted. 

If it is a long term install, the cost of this part of the system becomes very 
low compared to other installation costs, and the daily management of the whole.

Ciao,

Dave Hunt


On 8 Mar 2018, at 01:34, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote:

> From: Augustine Leudar 
> Subject: Re: [Sursound] realtime 5.1 streaming over hdmi ?
> Date: 7 March 2018 18:37:46 GMT
> To: Surround Sound discussion group 
> 
> 
> Yes we got it working immediately on the Mac - one channel on speaker.bBut
> obviously there's an extra cist involved for client if they have to buy a
> Mac! Its a longterm install.
> 
> On Wednesday, 7 March 2018, jim moses  wrote:
> 
>> The Mac HDMI out sounds like your best bet. You may need to work with the
>> audio-midi-setup app to make it work (seeting the # of channels and then
>> assignments in 'configure speakers').
>> 
>> jim

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