Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-12-28 Thread Paul Hodges
PS: What I describe works for WAV, M4A and OGG files equally well. I can also link the files on the web, and they play correctly to the speaker array from my default browser; try it here: https://cassland.org/sounds/TestQuad/ (If you have told Windows you have a 5.1 setup, for these

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-12-28 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 24 December 2017 16:37 -0500 Len Moskowitz wrote: > The consensus seems to be that the current release of VLC 2.2.8 can't > do it easily, if at all. VLC plays my quad files to my square array without any special setting up at all, and this should generalise to

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-12-26 Thread jim moses
On a mac, quicktime will play 5.1 and 7.1. could work by configuring speakers with audio-midi utility. jim On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Len Moskowitz wrote: > Alex Drioli wrote: > > Wouldn t you be able to use VLC? >> > > > The consensus seems to be that the

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-12-25 Thread Jack Reynolds
Ah. Perhaps it’s not out yet. The betas are available here: https://nightlies.videolan.org/ They have also announced a collaboration with 3D sound labs, which could be very interesting. No specific dates at the moment tho Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Dec 2017, at 12:39, Len Moskowitz

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-12-25 Thread Len Moskowitz
Jack Reynolds wrote: VLC 3.0 has been available as one of their nightly betas for a while, but I think it has just been release proper The VLC Home Page still shows v2.2.8. Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com) Core Sound LLC www.core-sound.com Home of TetraMic and OctoMic

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-12-24 Thread Jack Reynolds
VLC 3.0 has been available as one of their nightly betas for a while, but I think it has just been release proper Sent from my iPhone > On 24 Dec 2017, at 21:37, Len Moskowitz wrote: > > Alex Drioli wrote: > >> Wouldn t you be able to use VLC? > > > The

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-12-24 Thread Len Moskowitz
Alex Drioli wrote: Wouldn t you be able to use VLC? The consensus seems to be that the current release of VLC 2.2.8 can't do it easily, if at all. If you disagree, would you please provide us with clear instructions how to do it? We'd love to know! Len Moskowitz

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-12-24 Thread Axel Drioli
Wouldn t you be able to use VLC? On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 at 03:55, Len Moskowitz wrote: > Back in October, I wrote: > > > > I'd appreciate it if someone could recommend a very simple Windows > > audio player that can play a 6-channel WAV file to a 6-speaker ring. > > >

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-12-23 Thread Len Moskowitz
Back in October, I wrote: I'd appreciate it if someone could recommend a very simple Windows audio player that can play a 6-channel WAV file to a 6-speaker ring. Richard Dobson responded: Perhaps the "simplest" possible player is a command line one? My "paplay" program plays (and loops)

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-26 Thread David Stalling
> > > > I can't get VLC v2.2.5.1 to play to six speakers. It looks like it will > play Dolby 5.1 files, but I can't configure it for a 6-speaker ring playing > a 6-channel WAV. > > Hi Len, I've recently set up VLC Player on Linux to play a 6-channel WAV file. I used an external USB audio interface

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-26 Thread Richard Dobson
Perhaps the "simplest" possible player is a command line one? My "paplay" program plays (and loops) multichannel files to a nominated device, and while it does not have interactive facilities it offers full channel mapping and selecting. Plus elementary B-Format decoding. Part of the old

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-26 Thread Dave Malham
I've used Bidule a lot for demos in the past. Works well and is pretty reliable, plus its available on OSX as well as Windows - could wish it was on Linux as well but, hey... . Once you have a working patch it can be wrapped up as a 'group' which makes your nice working patch a little bit more

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-26 Thread Dave Malham
Good one Oi! If you're doing the patcher, add mute and solo buttons for system tests. Oh, and meters and test oscillators and...damn, I feel a attack of creeping featuritise coming on :-( Dave On 25 October 2017 at 20:27, Oliver Larkin wrote: > Rapture3D player is

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-26 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
Wavosaur seems really neat as it has VST support, maybe to use on windows to listen to a b-format file and use a vst for decoding to binaural On 26 Oct 2017 03:43, "Augustine Leudar" wrote: > quicktime player does I hink > > On 25 October 2017 at 19:14, Eero Aro

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread Augustine Leudar
quicktime player does I hink On 25 October 2017 at 19:14, Eero Aro wrote: > Hi All > > Wavosaur plays multichannel files and all channels can be routed through > a multichannel interface. > > http://tinyurl.com/ydemrofs > > But I understood that Len didn't want to use too

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-25 Thread Oliver Larkin
of course if VLC 3 does allow speaker decodes, that would be the best solution > On 25 Oct 2017, at 20:27, Oliver Larkin wrote: > > Rapture3D player is simple enough but there should be a free player for this > > I have a basic “AudioFilePlayer” plugin which is a hack

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-25 Thread Oliver Larkin
Rapture3D player is simple enough but there should be a free player for this I have a basic “AudioFilePlayer” plugin which is a hack of the JUCE Demo. Does the trick, will tidy it up and make it public. Would be nice to to have a limited patcher for remapping outputs. Oli > On 25 Oct 2017,

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-25 Thread Aaron Heller
I use it extensively as well. Easy to control from a midi control surface if you need physical controls. Glad to help with any questions. Aaron On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:43:23PM -0400, len moskowitz wrote: > > >

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-25 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:43:23PM -0400, len moskowitz wrote: > I'll try Plogue Bidule next .  It's a bit more complicated that we'd > like, but if it works, maybe we can work around the complexity. It's probably the best solution, and quite easy to use. My collegues at work use it all the time

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-25 Thread Eero Aro
http://www.memsolution.com/ https://www.brightsign.biz/index.php https://alcorn.com/product-category/audio/ Egreat used to have simple players, dunno if they still have: http://en.egreatworld.com/index.html Eero ___ Sursound mailing list

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File

2017-10-25 Thread len moskowitz
I wrote: I'd appreciate it if someone could recommend a very simple Windows audio player that can play a 6-channel WAV file to a 6-speaker ring. Thanks for all the suggestions. Ideally, we're looking for a very simple player. I've tried Audacity, and while it records multi-tracks, it

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread Eero Aro
Hi All Wavosaur plays multichannel files and all channels can be routed through a multichannel interface. http://tinyurl.com/ydemrofs But I understood that Len didn't want to use too complicated software? Do you need/want to use a computer at all? How about a standalone SD card or HD player?

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread Martin Leese
Marc Lavallée wrote: > Just a question: despite possible degradation of the decoded > ambisonics stream (due to phase errors), could it be that our perception > mechanisms (from the ears to the brain) can "fix" some distortions? > Also, what are the frequency ranges affected by phase errors (for

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread mick ritchie
Just apologised to len for a brain short circuit - Audacity will record but not play back more than stereo - dr So of this ilk Reaper is my usual simple player though id ahve htought there must be simple multichannelplayers around these days mick On 25 Oct 2017, at 13:57, mick ritchie

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread umashankar manthravadi
t; on behalf of Marc Lavallée <m...@hacklava.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:15:28 PM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)? Just a question: despite possible degradation of the decoded ambisonics stream (d

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread mick ritchie
Hi len depends on how you want to use it - Audacity will play back 4/6/8 channel files though wont allow routing so they just output to 1-n - great for quick testing but not for sharing. I did do a bunch of streaming tests 5 years ago and settled on 4ch wavs in a quicktime movie - no loss

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread Marc Lavallée
Just a question: despite possible degradation of the decoded ambisonics stream (due to phase errors), could it be that our perception mechanisms (from the ears to the brain) can "fix" some distortions? Also, what are the frequency ranges affected by phase errors (for example in a AAC or Opus

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread David Pickett
But I have been thinking about it -- fatal! If you start off from WXY, which is what I use, and make these into 4.0, you have merely done a linear transform (a sophisticated LR-->SD relationship). As this is totally lossless, any added phase anomalies either before or after the transform,

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread John Leonard
The Audio Player in Plogue Bidule will do this. You can get fancy with remote starts, if you like. John Please note new email address & direct line phone number email: j...@johnleonard.uk phone +44 (0)20 3286 5942 > On 25 Oct 2017, at 02:53, len moskowitz wrote: >

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread Dave Malham
I should have said "storing pre-decoded signals in a compressed format has less potential to be problematic" since phase errors likely to upset pre-decoded material would probably also cause problems with stereo which hopefully would have been picked up and dealt with during testing. I should say

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread David Pickett
At 09:55 25-10-17, Dave Malham wrote: > Just a word of warning, take care using compressed formats like mp4 for >storing B format. If the compression used is lossy, this can screw up the >decoding since phase errors can result in the sum and difference equations >involved producing wrong

Re: [Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-25 Thread Dave Malham
Hi, Just a word of warning, take care using compressed formats like mp4 for storing B format. If the compression used is lossy, this can screw up the decoding since phase errors can result in the sum and difference equations involved producing wrong results. Of course, storing pre-decoded

[Sursound] Simple Software to Play a 6-channel WAV File (Windows)?

2017-10-24 Thread len moskowitz
I'd appreciate it if someone could recommend a very simple Windows audio player that can play a 6-channel WAV file to a 6-speaker ring. A DAW will be too complicated for this user and application. Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com) Core Sound LLC www.core-sound.com Home of TetraMic