Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-07 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
than they look on paper :) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-07 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
speaker positioning, they must be very nice indeed. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Su

Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0

2014-07-18 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ss auntie is as much interested in testing mpeg-dash as in 4.0 :) adaptive streaming has its nice aspects, both from the content provider's and the listener's point of view. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühn

Re: [Sursound] www.michaelgerzonphotos.org.uk offline?

2014-08-07 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
mine). Paul I have taken a private-use copy of the entire website a while ago - if that is ever necessary to restore it for public access, please contact me off-list. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/S

Re: [Sursound] Updates about discrete surround/3D audio

2014-09-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
fficiently low crosstalk. In practice, almost no recording stays single-point co-incident, except for purist POA recordings under very controlled conditions, and only when no "shaping" of the result is required or desired. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49

Re: [Sursound] Updates about discrete surround/3D audio

2014-09-17 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
en speakers' formats. Which paradigm do you mean? I've read somewhere (I guess in the ITU recommendation) that the content in the surrounds should be decorrelated from L and R, but that's about all... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meist

Re: [Sursound] AmbiExplorer version 2 video

2014-10-11 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
excited about this! Seems to run well, but stupid me went on a long weekend vacation without bringing the headphones. So for now it's sweet anticipation :-D Thanks for improving a killer app. All best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meiste

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics for children's Museum

2014-11-03 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
decoding - most versatile, stable and cost effective. My decoder of choice is AmbDec, or you could try Matthias Kronlachner's AmbiX tools under Mac OS X. Regards, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstal

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics for children's Museum

2014-11-04 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
;t judge his decoder generator, because I only ever heard one system with no means of comparison, but what I heard was certainly very good. What I don't understand is how he manages to hang out at MPEG working group meetings on top of all the coding he does End of plug :) -- Jörn Netting

Re: [Sursound] AmbiExplorer for Andriod version 2.1 out

2015-03-13 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
this wonderful app - I've been using it to show people what's possible, and geeking off about smartphones is a wonderful conversation starter that can then be steered gently to Ambisonics ;) All best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 M

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics decoder to hrtf with VR support

2015-03-13 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 03/09/2015 12:12 PM, Tobix wrote: I've read that ambisonics is good for listener in center, right? This means that if player can move the sound effect will be distorted? If you're using pre-rendered Ambisonics files, the listener will never move from the sweet spot, translations are imposs

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com

2015-04-16 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ue to the room layout and the fact that we also needed the subs for a frontal LCR stereo system.. i digress. hooray for a real wxy sub decode. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com

2015-04-19 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
tion even in a small room, so using for subs is by no means a waste of resources. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com

2015-04-20 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
for the third-order treble range. [1] http://stackingdwarves.net/public_stuff/ardour_photos/Ardour-Klanglabor-2.jpg -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
across the entire hearing spectrum, which means that we are mixing around the rules but are actually endangering our audiences. Be sure to check the literature for this problem, to get a balanced view. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstalt

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

2015-04-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 04/22/2015 10:50 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: Well, it's not a secret that most live sound engineers, when faced with a 99dB(A) rule, will mix into the A curve, i.e. crank up the bass a lot. So there is plenty anec

Re: [Sursound] Converting 16 mic array recording to B format

2015-05-18 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
o time my way, it's going to keep sitting on my harddrive. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing l

Re: [Sursound] Converting 16 mic array recording to B format

2015-05-20 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Graz. As is the wine :-D -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https

Re: [Sursound] Multiple mics

2015-07-20 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
oors to gravel floor with birds above outdoors). Good luck for your recording project, please keep us updated on the results! Best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stac

Re: [Sursound] Audeze tetrahedral microphone

2015-09-09 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
y it. Or they have something up their sleeve which I can't currently imagine... If anyone can get a hold on directivity patterns per band and on-axis frequency response, I'd love to take a peek. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister

Re: [Sursound] Audeze tetrahedral microphone

2015-09-09 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
, but not great. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield MKV callibration question

2015-09-11 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
vidual capsule gains - if one capsule is off by 3 dB (which would be a catastrophic mismatch), _all_ output components will be totally warped. The capsule EQs might have similarly severe consequences, leading to weird direction-dependant coloration. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 4

Re: [Sursound] ICSA 2015 in Graz this week

2015-09-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 09/14/2015 04:13 PM, Courville, Daniel wrote: I’m leaving tomorrow for the International Conference on Spatial Audio in Graz, Austria. Anyone on the list also attending? I'll be there as well. Hope to see you and have a glass of excellent Styrian wine together :) --

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
16 channel AD/DA that has MADI and ADAT I/O. 34 channels is always nasty And there is a lot to be said for four subs instead of two. Maybe you should consider 28 tops and four subs, that way the conversion is more cost-effective. All best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ge angle as possible, unless I have to deal with a really huge space. Since you can't avoid off-axis sound, at least make it spectrally balanced. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeis

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
speaker has to be able to deliver that oomph, single-handedly. Curse of multichannel. Content doesn't scale :( -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http:/

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
dvertising" :-D Not to say this thing can't be amazing fun to play with. But I'm not considering it a serious tool unless I can see the specs. Which will be sobering, unless their other project on kickstarter took off as well and they have the PhysicsIsLookingElsewhere™ field

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
nd materializes, it will be (almost) omnidirectional again. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound maili

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/15/2015 03:59 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: On 10/15/2015 03:41 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote: What can I say Jorn - we have some and they work - not as well as adverstised obviously but strip away the hype they have something thta mor eor less does as described - you'll have to w

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
etter than nothing, of course). -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-16 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
new order "takes away" as much as it "adds", so to say. Unlike at HF, where we have to add energies and any such filtering throws the spectral balance of kilter, as Eigenmike users will know... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 793748

[Sursound] ADAT vs. MADI

2015-10-16 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
at will last you a while. And in terms of SNR, the Andiamo is a lot better than the Behringer (not to say the latter is bad). -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister V

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-17 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ross mid-hi speakers. Better to move the xover a bit higher if the mid-hi speakers need some more help. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net

[Sursound] spherical mic array order balancing

2015-10-17 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
sible to put some fake LF borrowed from the lower orders into the higher ones, so that the spectrum is flat for each order, with the understanding that the directional information will be wrong... But I'm not sure I'm seeing all the implications of this... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzin

Re: [Sursound] ADAT vs. MADI

2015-10-17 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
t since I'm also using it in the studio, the D-SUBs actually quicker to connect than individual XLRs. And the new firmware comes with a complete matrix router that spans all analog and MADI ins and outs. Quite handy, and you can run it MIDI-over-MADI, so you don't need an extra cable t

Re: [Sursound] SQ QUAD

2015-10-21 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 10/21/2015 03:14 PM, Richard wrote: That is very true, and there never will be. I have a marvellous algorithm that will restore old shellacs to their original 10-octaves full surround beauty, but since the world is what it is, I'm not going to show it to you. -- Jörn Nettings

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ne, I got to play with it at ICSA. Works. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.v

Re: [Sursound] OT: Opportunities for Study and Funding at the University of Birmingham / BEAST

2015-11-21 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
). :-D -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-04 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 12/04/2015 08:56 PM, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: http://www.williamsonic.com/DipoleMic/ as often I am too fast to post :-) I found the article again on a practical differential microphone for DIY. thanks, excellent article! -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-05 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
confusion. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailma

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-06 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ng can possibly have. For that price, let's hope they see the light and partner with mh or Duraiswami and deliver something that really kicks butt in the audio domain... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Stu

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-06 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
rtically spaced loudspeakers do not contribute to localisation in any way. helmut is aware of this and has presented a much more compact 8-channel mic array at ICSA 2015 in graz, where the top and bottom mics are practically coincident. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel.

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-06 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 12/06/2015 06:14 PM, Stefan Schreiber wrote: Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: btw, since you're quoting this very interesting article, it has been partly superseded by recent research of lee at al. at huddersfield (see latest JAES), who found that there is _no_ vertical precendence effec

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-06 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 12/06/2015 07:44 PM, Kees de Visser wrote: On 6 Dec 2015, at 11:46, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: btw, since you're quoting this very interesting article, it has been partly superseded by recent research of lee at al. at huddersfield (see latest JAES), who found that there is _no_ ver

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-07 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
nimize crosstalk and ensure well-defined decorrelation between speaker channels, not isotropy. it is intended to produce ambience only. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (B

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-07 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
nless you bend your neck to the sides and then up/down. this is a very unnatural movement. i do use it from time to time to check for errors in complex loudspeaker systems, but it usually results in bystanders asking if i'm ok. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Te

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-07 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 12/06/2015 11:46 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: On 12/05/2015 05:26 PM, Stefan Schreiber wrote: I wrote: "8-channel ... hedgehog", which is/was already some form of educated guess. See: http://www.hauptmikrofon.de/HW/TMT2012_3DNaturalRecording_Theile_Wittek_2012_11.pdf, pg.

Re: [Sursound] OZO? vertical precedence

2015-12-08 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
d lead-lag pair is necessary for localization dominance to occur when the lag is spatially separated from the lead. i can't imagine what this means. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungste

Re: [Sursound] OZO? vertical precedence

2015-12-08 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ing! a quick glance makes me very curious, i'm looking forward to reading this tonight. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net __

[Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-09 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
here else. 3rd-order ambisonic vertical localisation seems uniformly so-so throughout the elevation range, which to me is preferrable... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdw

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 12/09/2015 03:00 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: i've attached the paper, since it is open access. well, i meant to, but apparently the attachment got eaten. here it is: http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=18040 -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +4

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-10 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
mbisonic panner :) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/m

Re: [Sursound] vertical precendence and summing localisation (wallis and lee 2015)

2015-12-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
find improved ways to reproduce surround sound (including 3D audio) via headphones and loudspeakers. Thanks for pointing this out. :-] -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http:

Re: [Sursound] Wireless speakers

2015-12-17 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
thing yet (i'm not using it for anything critical), and it sure isn't great but usable, and for the price who'd complain. one of those would enable you to run third-order horizontal ambisonics over wireless without jumping through fiery hoops. all best, jörn -- Jö

Re: [Sursound] The Mike Skeet Collection

2015-12-20 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
could do it, but then the question is who's going to dig through the archives and ship the stuff? -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarve

Re: [Sursound] Sennheiser Easy 3D Recording and Modeling

2016-01-06 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
-3d-audio-space-with-amb.html Too bad they kicked the Eigenmike guys out :-D Those who do not understand spherical harmonics have to reinvent it... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http

[Sursound] AmbiExplorer: no sensors on CM13.0 (Android 6.0 Marshmallow)

2016-01-08 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ce to try AE on 6.0 on a Samsung? I know this is quite bleeding edge and CM is pretty shaky still, too. So no ill feelings if there's no immediate fix. Maybe I should just go into version junkie detox and stick with what works :-D All best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingst

Re: [Sursound] YouTube adds ambisonics support

2016-01-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
pedia.org/wiki/Mixed-order_Ambisonics#Complete_mixed-order_sets_.28.23H.23V.29 However, I don't know of anybody who has experience with decoding such sets. Fons's decoder can handle that, and iirc it comes with examples. This scheme is particularly useful for stacked rings. -- Jörn

[Sursound] Submissions now accepted for 2016 AES International Conference on Headphone Technology

2016-01-17 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
- Leibnitz University, Hannover Papers Co-Chairs 2016hp_pap...@aes.org <mailto:2016hp_pap...@aes.org> -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT

[Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-26 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
s the whole upper body moves, rather than just the neck, but I guess it's a start. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
(more than 200!). Well worth reading (35$ for AES members). i've been eyeing this one for a while (it's advertised in every new issue of the AES journal...), but your recommendation finally made me order it. thanks! -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 1

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ing months, hopefully with the help of Rozenn Nicol's book. Meanwhile, forgive the man without the heavy ion accelerator that this problem did indeed look like a nail :-D -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio)

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-28 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
that inside the black box, some very-high-order stuff might be going on. if by quadrupling the processing power, i can get a robust 5% improvement in the rendering of first-order material, i wouldn't hesitate a second, except in very special cases. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11,

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-01 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
cpu, and waste storage). in any case, you can make use of the full length of the hrtfs. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net _

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-03 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/03/2016 02:48 PM, florian.came...@orf.at wrote: (But we shouldn't divert from the original topic.) no, that is frowned upon here :-D thanks for the insightful comments, i was wondering the same... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Me

Re: [Sursound] Soundfield ST350

2016-02-08 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
7;c color-coded for weight). the length of the microphone body including connector and curved cable is about 30 cm (see photo sent in private that's probably not going to make it to the list). best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177

Re: [Sursound] Advice on practicalities of 16-speaker half-spherical arrangement

2016-02-12 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ertices) if you want full-sphere, but then only for 2nd order. 3-6-3 can also be nice and simpler to set up. the big advantage of an icosahedron is that most decoders have a suitable setup by default. for hemispheres, you'd need to compute it yourself. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr.

[Sursound] Would you like to see Ambisonics at the VDT International Convention 2016?

2016-02-18 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
itors, 180 exhibitors and more than 200 paper presentations in the past. And the more interest we see, the more resources we can justify to put into a nice Ambi rig. Disclaimer: I'm a member of VDT and work for them as technical director of the conference. Best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Decoder Design Resources

2016-02-20 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ut unless you really need extremely high horizontal resolution for research purposes or a truly humongous listening area, a better use for all those speakers would be to make a more or less uniform 3D rig. gets you a nice dodecahedron for full third-order all around. best, jörn -- Jörn

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Decoder Design Resources

2016-02-21 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
fy approx dates, subject lines, or keywords to search on? Alternatively, please repeat the information here, as it could be of interest. IIRC, one of the BLaH papers also cites listening tests that have found the hexagon to be preferred over square or rectangular setups for first order.

Re: [Sursound] Wireless Solutions for Binaural Event

2016-02-21 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
transmitter working on a given frequency. if you wanted to hand over to another, it would have to work on a different frequency, and the receivers would have to support that kind of feature. I don't know any headphones that can do it. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +4

Re: [Sursound] Wireless Solutions for Binaural Event

2016-02-21 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ttendants start them before handing them to the audience. Another solution might be IR-based systems as used by interpreters. They are quite resilient and easily handle multiple emitters. I don't know what their audio bandwidth is, however. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Es

Re: [Sursound] Wireless Solutions for Binaural Event

2016-02-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
g is like, with a distance between the legs of the u that are a lot longer than the wavelength? i would expect pretty fancy interference patters with loads of complete nulls all over the place. or is there some sort of near-field effect that makes the effect of parallel lengths of wire ne

Re: [Sursound] Different usages, different spaces, different decoders?

2016-02-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ponses would be the most important piece of the puzzle. maybe we should just sweep each speaker into a tetramic in the sweet spot as a start. with careful analysis, that should contain a lot of information about the speakers and the room. we get free-field response above a few hundred hertz, and

Re: [Sursound] Different usages, different spaces, different decoders?

2016-02-23 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
nce on the wikipedia page on ambisonic listening rigs. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursoun

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Decoder Design Resources

2016-02-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
e... so if anyone is interested, just drop an email. can't speak for anyone else here, but personally i would very much like to be informed about this project, and it seems perfectly on topic for sursound. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 79374

Re: [Sursound] AmbiExplorer: no sensors on CM13.0 (Android 6.0 Marshmallow)

2016-02-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 01/08/2016 11:25 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: Hi Hector, hi everone, after a botched mobile phone upgrade (I'm using CM on my Samsung S4 and update frequently), I was forced to redo the phone from scratch, taking the opportunity to move to CM13.0, which is based on Android 6.

Re: [Sursound] Inventory of Ambisonics plug-ins/tools on OS X

2016-02-25 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
rnals Pure Data HoaLibrary: http://www.mshparisnord.fr/hoalibrary/ Plogue Bidule Aristotel Digenis: http://www.digenis.co.uk/?page_id=59 i've added AAT to the list on wikipedia, i think the rest is there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ambisonic_Software -- Jörn Nettingsmeier L

[Sursound] expressing HRTFs in spherical harmonics

2016-02-25 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 01/27/2016 01:56 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: On 01/26/2016 11:05 PM, Politis Archontis wrote: Hi Jorn, yes that is correct. I think however that the virtual loudspeaker stage is unnecessary. It is equivalent if you expand the left and right HRTFs into spherical harmonics and multiply

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
facing different formats. All best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Su

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-23 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ker and the speaker under test. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail

Re: [Sursound] Static stereo source in rotating soundfield, possible?

2016-03-26 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
only way to get two rotationally invariant signals into the stream is a cardioid pointing up and another one pointing down. if your player ignores head tilt, the result is like summing to mono and mixing into W. if it supports head tilt, the result is likely even worse :-D -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lo

Re: [Sursound] Static stereo source in rotating soundfield, possible?

2016-03-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 03/26/2016 05:22 PM, Albert Leusink wrote: Jörn Nettingsmeier writes: i don't see why you would want to do that. the effect will be quite strange... why would any part of the sound mix stay constant wrt head position? the effect would be a bit like rotating the music bed in the c

Re: [Sursound] Flac for FOA or amb files?

2016-03-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Chapman) and the formulation of SN3D by Nachbar et al. (which, if combined as-is, will yield a result that is off by 1/4pi or, as Franz Zotter helpfully pointed out, ~11dB). Not terribly disturbing since it's constant, but something that needs to be fixed for internal consistency. --

Re: [Sursound] Decay times and frequency response for control rooms/studios

2016-03-30 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
76 is quite helpful there. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu

[Sursound] Invitation to present a technical demo / a workshop / a product presentation at the AES International Conference on Headphone Technologies, 2016, Aalborg (DK)

2016-04-06 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Best Demo Award including a certificate will be presented at the conference closing ceremony. With best regards Dr. Alexander Lindau Paper’s Chair AES International Conference on Headphone Technologies, Aalborg (DK), 2016 -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 793

Re: [Sursound] Anyone know anything about this?

2016-04-08 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
d it during the april foolery, but now it must out :) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursou

Re: [Sursound] Anyone know anything about this?

2016-04-08 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 04/08/2016 02:10 PM, Marc Lavallée wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 13:00:20 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote : On 04/07/2016 08:13 PM, Marc Lavallee wrote: The FAQ says: "audio is recorded in 96 KHz/16 bit quality" I would prefer 48 KHz/24 bit. let's not discuss matters of ta

Re: [Sursound] Anyone know anything about this?

2016-04-08 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 04/08/2016 04:26 PM, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: Multi direction binaurals?s? http://recordinghacks.com/microphones/T-H-E-Audio/BS-3D Or beamforming ? a casual glance over the site seems to suggest direct beamforming without an intermediate b-format. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11

Re: [Sursound] Anyone know anything about this?

2016-04-08 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 04/08/2016 04:26 PM, Marc Lavallee wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 15:13:16 +0200 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: They might have very pragmatic reasons: if they know their equivalent input noise is at 30 dB SPL and their capsules barf at 120, then restricting the word length to 96 dB is a perfectly

Re: [Sursound] Orah

2016-04-08 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
matter is that as long as video techs add mics as an afterthought, the results are going to suck, badly. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net __

Re: [Sursound] Re-Routing VST Plugin

2016-04-11 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ht now for lack of a Windows machine on the road, but I seem to remember it's pretty powerful... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___

Re: [Sursound] Re-Routing VST Plugin

2016-04-12 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
n and matrix patch setup? -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu

Re: [Sursound] Are mems a good choice for ambisonic microphones?

2016-04-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
15k? Is is possible to linearize it to get a useful response above 10k, or does it come with extreme ringing that would make it unusable? Always good to learn about up and coming new technologies, but for this one I'm dusting off and waxing my ten-foot pole... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzin

Re: [Sursound] Are mems a good choice for ambisonic microphones?

2016-04-14 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
, yet interfacing it to, the outside world. Chris Woolf Hi Chris, excellent link, thanks! That explains it :) Btw, good to see you guys at Mikroforum the other week! All best, Jörn On 14-Apr-16 11:04, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: On 04/13/2016 04:25 PM, Marc Lavallee wrote: I'm looki

Re: [Sursound] Storage - how do you do yours?

2016-04-15 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ty of a single drive. And while I'm preaching: don't use hardware RAID controllers, unless you can afford to keep one as a backup in case the first one fails. Their disk formats are not standardized, they are not necessarily compatible to anything you might be able to buy ten years

Re: [Sursound] Paris AES

2016-04-29 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
sting programme - I don't think I'll be going, which is a pity - so I look forward to reading reports here. Will be there, will report, would like to meet fellow sursounders for une bière... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltung

Re: [Sursound] Facebook spatial workstation

2016-05-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 05/24/2016 01:03 PM, Richard wrote: Limited as there’s no Windows support yet How is that a limit? /me ducks and covers... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http

Re: [Sursound] Facebook spatial workstation

2016-05-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
ormat, to enable head tracking on the client side. And B-format (or rather, AmbiX 1st order) is what Google has decided to use for its YouTube 360 format (aka Google Jump). -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio)

Re: [Sursound] Coefficients for Octagonal Decoder with CF

2016-05-26 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
with the decoder coefficients for FL/FR. i'm only partly serious, but since i'm still haven't mastered ADT, these are the approaches available to me :-D -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Stu

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