On 12/17/2015 01:27 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote:
I may have posted it before but maybe things have changed. I do a lot of
multichannel site specific work sometimes I use speakers up to a hundred
metres away from the control center. I currently use Mackie SRM450s and
miles and miles of xlr cable which  is inconvenient to say the least (think
cherry pickers and risk assessments that resemble Phd theses etc etc) . Is
there currently any wireless pa or even smaller speakers that can work
wireless (I would love to go wireless on both small and large
isntallations) . I know I can use seinheizer headphone units but I was
wondering if there was a speaker with build in wireless that is relatively
compression free (ie not bluetooth!) plus 32 Seinheizer units plus speakers
is too costly at the moment. All the wirless speakers Ive seen (eg Alto)
  only allow stereo - there does not seem to be a system that can deal with
multiple discrete channels. Jorn did you mention such a system ? Anyone
else care to chime in ?
I look forward to the day when I hear the question "Grandad - what's an
audio cable ?"

oh yes :)


when you say "multichannel", and at the same time mention such huge distances, it would be interesting to learn whether you need fixed phase relationships between the speakers (as in an ambisonic or stereophonic playback situation), or have singular sound objects that do not need to maintain strict timing with respect to their neighbours.

if it's mostly singular speakers each doing their own stuff, i guess wifi streaming as suggested by marc would be a good option. although i've never tried multicast outside the lab, and certainly never over wifi. maybe it doesn't even have to be multicast then, just synchronized streams on the sender side, and keep the receiver buffers within the maximum allowable time difference between streams. icecast in combination with some jack stream source (ezstream or ices2) should do the job.

when you want to get fixed-phase playback over several receivers, things get difficult. but maybe just one receiver for each group of speakers requiring fixed-phase sync would help already?

i've just begun playing with the new raspberry pi 2 in combination with an edimax 7711-UW wireless usb dongle (each one will cost you less than 50€ including psu, case, and sd card).

there's the problem that the onboard sound is crap and there's no usb 2.0, so i'm using the HDMI audio out (eight channels) in combination with something like https://www.ligawo.eu/ligawo-6518770-hdmi-audio-extractor-dac-7-1-5-1-2-0-analog-audio/a-6518770/ haven't measured this thing yet (i'm not using it for anything critical), and it sure isn't great but usable, and for the price who'd complain.

one of those would enable you to run third-order horizontal ambisonics over wireless without jumping through fiery hoops.

all best,


jörn



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