[biofuel] petrodiesel price in uk

2001-05-14 Thread Dick Carlstein
From: Biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: Diesel operating on pressed oil Funny, I just did the figures, but these are applicable to UK only. Current price of fresh rapeseed oil is £270 a tonne - 24.54p per litre Petrodiesel in bulk is 18p a litre Hence, it is cheaper to run on fossil

Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
Looking into what I have on file about alcohol crops, I find the following quote about jerusalem artichoke: Since one acre of Jerusalem artichokes yields about 28 tons of tubers under average conditions and 1 ton of tubers yields some 19 gallons of alcohol... That yield per acre seems a bit too

Re: [biofuel] methanol/methoxide vacuum concern

2001-05-14 Thread ian
Thanks David. I did a quick search on the net and found one or two conversion charts which didnt have mws. Cheers Ian - Original Message - From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol/methoxide vacuum

Re: [biofuel] Petrodiesel mierda cleaning

2001-05-14 Thread milliontc
Thanks Terry Change your filter after 100 miles, then 500 then 1000 then as approved. I found no clag from 70,000 miles petrodiesel when I started using Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your

Re: [biofuel] Re: Diesel operating on pressed oil

2001-05-14 Thread Biofuels
Funny, I just did the figures, but these are applicable to UK only. Current price of fresh rapeseed oil is £270 a tonne - 24.54p per litre Petrodiesel in bulk is 18p a litre Hence, it is cheaper to run on fossil The picture will change, no doubt Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [biofuel] What's the difference

2001-05-14 Thread Appal Energy
Mike, So, it doesn't really make a difference which veggy oil one uses. The net result will be, basically, the same. Pretty much. Some are perhaps slightly better than others. Is there a direct correlation (linear) between energy content and performance? Yup. It's the energy content,

[biofuel] Refinery

2001-05-14 Thread Jeremy Shuey
Here is a question I want to pose to the group. We all know we can refine Crude oil to make diesel and then even further to make gasoline. Can we refine biodiesel to make maybe..biogas? ;-) Am just wondering. Just my 2 cents. Jeremy __

Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-14 Thread Jeremy Shuey
--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking into what I have on file about alcohol crops, I find the following quote about jerusalem artichoke: Since one acre of Jerusalem artichokes yields about 28 tons of tubers under average conditions and 1 ton of tubers yields some 19

[biofuel] Re: Diesel operating on pressed oil

2001-05-14 Thread ratchelali
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny, I just did the figures, but these are applicable to UK only. Current price of fresh rapeseed oil is £270 a tonne - 24.54p per litre Petrodiesel in bulk is 18p a litre Hence, it is cheaper to run on fossil The picture

Re: [biofuel] Re: Diesel operating on pressed oil

2001-05-14 Thread Biofuels
How much are chips in the states? I forget Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-14 Thread David Reid
Marc, That figures is basically true although yield obviously depends on a a number of factors such as quality of land, fertilizer, weed infestation, rain, insects, etc. That is probably about average for good land. Somewhere I have all the information here and I believe it mentions a

Re: [biofuel] by-pass filter

2001-05-14 Thread David Reid
Thanks Keith, Your suggestion of contacting Paul at GoGoBid.com is probably a good one so will probably do so. With your permission will dig out and post a bit more information on by-pass filters from time to time as I see them as a small but invaluable tool in the worldwide

Re: [biofuel] by-pass filter

2001-05-14 Thread steve spence
also list it at my shop n swap group @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/swapnshop Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation -

Re: [biofuel] by-pass filter

2001-05-14 Thread David Reid
Thanks Steve, I can see you are a true conservationist and your offer is much appreciated. Will provide you with details shortly. B.r., David - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 9:04 AM

[biofuel] BANKING ZEV CREDITS

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 To: undisclosed-recipients:; ENERGIES... week of May 6, 2001, BANKING ZEV CREDITS. By gaining certification as a Zero Emission Vehicle by the California Air Resources Board (CARB), each Dynasty Motorcar IT low-speed electric

[biofuel] energy modesty

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd from [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Albrecht Kaupp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi folks, Wandering in between three homes and living alternatively in in the USA, India and Germany, and by my profession and believe would qualify as a Democrat/Ecofascist as defined by Dave, I see this whole discussion a bit

Re: [biofuel] Petrodiesel mierda cleaning

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
I'm about to start running my ex army 1987 Land Rover 110 on 100% biodiesel (from WVO) and wonder how many Km travel it will take before the petrodiesel deposits are dissolved out of the fuel system. The Landy has 300,000 on the clock and has so far only known petro diesel. ??? James in Spain

[biofuel] Study Finds Better Fuel Economy Will Lower Oil Imports More Than New Oil Drilling

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
Study Finds Better Fuel Economy Will Lower Oil Imports More Than New Oil Drilling For further information, contact: Howard Geller at 202-429-8873 May 1, 2001 WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Increasing the fuel efficiency of new cars and light trucks by just 5 percent a year would cut U.S. oil use by 1.5

[biofuel] Re: Filter

2001-05-14 Thread David Reid
James, Thanks for your e-mail. I believe you are best to fit 2 filters, one for your oil system, and one for your fuel system but that is up to you. Obviously this will cost you about twice as much and at the end of the day only you can decide wether it is feasible and economic for you

[biofuel] Americans feel gas cost crunch Poll: Almost 6 in 10 will drive less this summer

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20010511/3311291s.htm Americans feel gas cost crunch Poll: Almost 6 in 10 will drive less this summer By Susan Page USA TODAY WASHINGTON -- Almost six in 10 Americans will drive less this summer because of rising gasoline prices, a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll

[biofuel] Automakers seek to keep CAFE out of policy discussions

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
http://detnews.com/2001/autos/0105/10/a01-222625.htm - 5/10/01 The high price of energy Will fuel rules rule debate? Automakers seek to keep CAFE out of policy discussions Today's report The battle over how to save fuel has pitted automakers against some environmental groups. Plus: Can

Re: [biofuel] Americans feel gas cost crunch Poll: Almost 6 in 10 will drive less this summer

2001-05-14 Thread steve spence
here in NJ this is a different story. We go where we want/need to go, and bitch and moan at the pump, as we hand over our credit card. no change in consumption though. it's life as usual. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable

[biofuel] Re: methanol/methoxide vacuum concern

2001-05-14 Thread scrof
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Can someone help me out here. If youve looked at my hoto, http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/process.jpg my methoxide mixer is to the right, the grey tank. Now I'm concerned, as so far for my initial test batch I poured the

[biofuel] Mariller method of dehydrating alcohol using glycerin

2001-05-14 Thread Steve Spence
http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL

[biofuel] Bio Bug on its way

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
Follow the Bio Bug as it travels across the country to the National Clean Cities Conference at http://www.pipeline.to/biodiesel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

Re: [biofuel] Bio Bug / UC Davis study is there!

2001-05-14 Thread Ed Beggs
I note that the 70+ page elusive UC DAVIS study is at their site as a pdf!! Nice to finally see it. NBB should have it, too but I don't think they do. Ed B. From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:05:43 +0900 To:

[biofuel] Energy Modesty....

2001-05-14 Thread Appal Energy
Here in India most of the professionals tell me every day that energy efficiency by itself won't help anyway. It is a matter of the sum of energy efficiency and energy modesty. Albrecht Kaupp Senior Advisor Indo-German Energy Efficiency and Environment Project, IGEEP 21 Jor Bagh, New Delhi

Re: [biofuel] by-pass filter

2001-05-14 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Last post to Spain should have been off-list, IMHO. Long! Thanks, Ed B. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[biofuel] Cleaning oil drums

2001-05-14 Thread zh24mij
Hello All, Finally, sweet success! I found my first steel drum today, the very nucleus of my biodiesel operation. Kudos to me, I must have killed a coupla dinosaurs finding it. Anyhow, I think I probably need to clean the thing, it was used to ship some kind of

[biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichoke

2001-05-14 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
David Reid wrote: That figures is basically true although yield obviously depends on a a number of factors such as quality of land, fertilizer, weed infestation, rain, insects, etc. That is probably about average for good land. Somewhere I have all the information here and I believe it

Re: [biofuel] energy modesty

2001-05-14 Thread Freed
Hi Folks, I am new on the list. I am most interested in alcohol production since I don't have a diesel engine. As a daily driver I have a 30 year old economy car, a Rambler. I rebuilt the motor so the thing runs great and it is so simple with power nothing. I have also considered converting it to

[biofuel] Bio Fuel kits for Diesel autos

2001-05-14 Thread tom wiggins
I,m confused, why would I need a conversion kit to use Bio Diesel in my Vw Jetta? Also can some one tell me how I may process used motor oil into diesel fuel? Thanks, Tom Wiggins from Kansas. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email

[biofuel] Glyc burning/steam generating

2001-05-14 Thread Aleksander lt;kac
Hello, As for the drip feed burners, glycerine is not a good fuel. I tried it for several weeks and the gum deposits are just too much. Next thing I made was some reading, and so far noone seems to be able to make glyc burn deposit free with sensible priced equipment. In Austria the glyc is

Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichoke

2001-05-14 Thread dhargis1
I have been considering ways to commercially produce biodiesel in India. My own thoughts have been along the lines of cargo containers. I want to get everything operational in 8 x 8 x 20 foot containers. They could be hauled about, set-up on site, etc. They don't need foundations. If the plant is

Re: [biofuel] Cleaning oil drums

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hello All, Finally, sweet success! I found my first steel drum today, the very nucleus of my biodiesel operation. Kudos to me, I must have killed a coupla dinosaurs finding it. Anyhow, I think I probably need to clean the thing, it was used to ship some kind of

Re: [biofuel] Re: methanol/methoxide vacuum concern

2001-05-14 Thread ian
Thankyou very much Dale. Ian - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:18 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: methanol/methoxide vacuum concern --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Can someone help me out

RE: [biofuel] What's the difference

2001-05-14 Thread Mike Brownstone
Todd, Is my thinking correct?: If the energy content of most biodiesals is between 35 and 40 Mj/kg (Terry 4/27) Lowest heat of combustion is canola methyl ester at 39.9 Mj/kg Highest is rape at 40.54 Mj/kg The rest are in between D2 is 45.42 Mj/kg

RE: [biofuel] Cleaning oil drums

2001-05-14 Thread kirk
A place to look for used steel drums is the factory for dairy products. If they reconstitute orange juice they get it in drums with a liner. I live near Great Falls Mt. and the Meadow Gold plant there turns out about 4 empty drums a week. -Original Message- From: Keith Addison

Re: [biofuel] by-pass filter

2001-05-14 Thread David Reid
Hi Ed, Your probably right. Sent it to the group as thought it would be of interest if anyone else wanted a filter. If I make about $26 or 27 a filter I certainly dont want to spend any more time than I need on going over things as I will go broke that way pretty quickly. In this case

Container units - was Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichoke

2001-05-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Derek and Marc Have a look at this: http://www.pipeline.to/biodiesel/Images/Newsltr.pdf Under the direction of Dale Schutte (Chief Engineer), Mike Moore (VP of Operations), Keith Fuller (Plant Operations), and Mike Schutte (Engineering Assistant), the Las Vegas production unit has been

Re: [biofuel] What's the difference

2001-05-14 Thread Biofuels
The difference in calorific value of biodiesel of 10% is a theoretical one - the biodiesel contains around 11% oxygen in the molecular content. However, this oxygen causes the fuel to react quicker and better than petrodiesel, with the result that the energy produced is relatively greater. This

[biofuel] Mobile BD plant

2001-05-14 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Derek Hargis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been considering ways to commercially produce biodiesel in India. My own thoughts have been along the lines of cargo containers. I want to get everything operational in 8 x 8 x 20 foot containers. They could be hauled about, set-up on site, etc. They

Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichoke

2001-05-14 Thread David Reid
Hi Mark, If you dont relate to the land you dont relate to nature and your missing one hell of a lot. Eighty percent of people now live in cities and think this is all there is to life. My father was a farmer who really loved the land, and wanted all his children to grow up to be

Re: [biofuel] Cleaning oil drums

2001-05-14 Thread Tim Zarbo
We have a $2? publication available here in Tampa - Bargain Trader It seems it's widely available. their website is: http://www.bargaintraderonline.com/index.html There's a feller here (found him in the bargain trader) who has(had?) both steel and pvc drums--$15-20 each? (This is from memory-- I

[biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-14 Thread fwishart
, My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i am interested in making BioDiesel from low grade tallow one of the drawbacks as i see it is the high FFA at +15% althoough if used on a daily basis this would be reduced. I have access to 800lt/day and am looking into the

Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichoke

2001-05-14 Thread steve spence
it's been my hope to use the container idea for building emergency shelters. fully outfitted units with sleeping/living/eating facilities, all hooked up to a central power, water, sewage processor container(s). this works well with your idea. I call it Sheltainer Systems. Steve Spence Subscribe

Re: Container units - was Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichoke

2001-05-14 Thread steve spence
I'm meeting Dale and Russ today. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Bio Fuel kits for Diesel autos

2001-05-14 Thread steve spence
you don't need a conversion kit for biodiesel, but you would for straight veggie oil (SVO) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home

Re: [biofuel] Yield of Jerusalem artichoke

2001-05-14 Thread dhargis1
Hi Steve, I remember reading that some parts of the rapid response forces of the US military have an entire base constructed in cargo containers. When they deploy overseas the entire modular city is packed up and shipped with a minimum of downtime to pack and unpack. The latest US military field

Re: [biofuel] What's the difference

2001-05-14 Thread Appal Energy
Is my thinking correct?: If the energy content of most biodiesals is between 35 and 40 Mj/kg (Terry 4/27) Lowest heat of combustion is canola methyl ester at 39.9 Mj/kg Highest is rape at 40.54 Mj/kg The rest are in between D2 is 45.42 Mj/kg and #2Diesal is 45 mj/kg then holding all

Re: [biofuel] Mobile BD plant

2001-05-14 Thread dhargis1
Hi Marc, Yes, you're probably right. That was one of the reasons that I mentioned thinking to restrict myself to designing within only 20 foot containers. Then, I think a lot of the interior of the container is going to be empty space surrounding the machinery. I had hoped to move them with a

Re: [biofuel] Mobile BD plant

2001-05-14 Thread steve spence
There are piles of these containers, used, in Newark NJ. You have to see it to believe it. 10 acres all stacked together, piled 10 at least. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm