From: Biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Diesel operating on pressed oil
Funny, I just did the figures, but these are applicable to UK only.
Current price of fresh rapeseed oil is £270 a tonne - 24.54p per litre
Petrodiesel in bulk is 18p a litre
Hence, it is cheaper to run on fossil
Looking into what I have on file about alcohol crops, I find the
following quote about jerusalem artichoke:
Since one acre of Jerusalem artichokes yields about 28 tons of tubers
under average conditions and 1 ton of tubers yields some 19 gallons of
alcohol...
That yield per acre seems a bit too
Thanks David.
I did a quick search on the net and found one or two conversion charts which
didnt have mws.
Cheers
Ian
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From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] methanol/methoxide vacuum
Thanks Terry
Change your filter after 100 miles, then 500 then 1000 then as approved.
I found no clag from 70,000 miles petrodiesel when I started using
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Funny, I just did the figures, but these are applicable to UK only.
Current price of fresh rapeseed oil is £270 a tonne - 24.54p per litre
Petrodiesel in bulk is 18p a litre
Hence, it is cheaper to run on fossil
The picture will change, no doubt
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Mike,
So, it
doesn't really make a difference which veggy oil one uses. The net
result
will be, basically, the same.
Pretty much. Some are perhaps slightly better than others.
Is there a direct correlation (linear) between energy content and
performance?
Yup. It's the energy content,
Here is a question I want to pose to the group. We
all know we can refine Crude oil to make diesel and
then even further to make gasoline. Can we refine
biodiesel to make maybe..biogas? ;-) Am just
wondering.
Just my 2 cents.
Jeremy
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--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking into what I have on file about alcohol
crops, I find the
following quote about jerusalem artichoke:
Since one acre of Jerusalem artichokes yields
about 28 tons of tubers
under average conditions and 1 ton of tubers yields
some 19
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Funny, I just did the figures, but these are applicable to UK only.
Current price of fresh rapeseed oil is £270 a tonne - 24.54p per
litre
Petrodiesel in bulk is 18p a litre
Hence, it is cheaper to run on fossil
The picture
How much are chips in the states?
I forget
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Marc,
That figures is basically true although yield obviously depends on
a a number of factors such as quality of land, fertilizer, weed infestation,
rain, insects, etc. That is probably about average for good land. Somewhere
I have all the information here and I believe it mentions a
Thanks Keith,
Your suggestion of contacting Paul at GoGoBid.com is
probably a good one so will probably do so.
With your permission will dig out and post a bit more information on by-pass
filters from time to time as I see them as a small but invaluable tool in
the worldwide
also list it at my shop n swap group @
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/swapnshop
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Thanks Steve,
I can see you are a true conservationist and your offer
is much appreciated. Will provide you with details shortly.
B.r., David
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From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 9:04 AM
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ENERGIES... week of May 6, 2001,
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From: Albrecht Kaupp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi folks,
Wandering in between three homes and living alternatively in in the USA,
India and Germany, and by my profession and believe would qualify as a
Democrat/Ecofascist as defined by Dave, I see this whole discussion a bit
I'm about to start running my ex army 1987 Land Rover 110 on 100%
biodiesel (from WVO) and wonder how many Km travel it will take
before the petrodiesel deposits are dissolved out of the fuel system.
The Landy has 300,000 on the clock and has so far only known petro
diesel.
???
James in Spain
Study Finds Better Fuel Economy Will Lower Oil Imports More Than New
Oil Drilling
For further information, contact: Howard Geller at 202-429-8873
May 1, 2001
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Increasing the fuel efficiency of new cars and
light trucks by just 5 percent a year would cut U.S. oil use by 1.5
James,
Thanks for your e-mail. I believe you are best to fit 2 filters,
one for your oil system, and one for your fuel system but that is up to you.
Obviously this will cost you about twice as much and at the end of the day
only you can decide wether it is feasible and economic for you
http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20010511/3311291s.htm
Americans feel gas cost crunch Poll: Almost 6 in 10 will drive less this summer
By Susan Page
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON -- Almost six in 10 Americans will drive less this summer
because of rising gasoline prices, a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll
http://detnews.com/2001/autos/0105/10/a01-222625.htm
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The high price of energy
Will fuel rules rule debate?
Automakers seek to keep CAFE out of policy discussions
Today's report
The battle over how to save fuel has pitted automakers against some
environmental groups. Plus: Can
here in NJ this is a different story. We go where we want/need to go, and
bitch and moan at the pump, as we hand over our credit card. no change in
consumption though. it's life as usual.
Steve Spence
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Hi all
Can someone help me out here.
If youve looked at my hoto,
http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/process.jpg
my methoxide mixer is to the right, the grey tank.
Now I'm concerned, as so far for my initial test batch I poured the
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I note that the 70+ page elusive UC DAVIS study is at their site as a pdf!!
Nice to finally see it. NBB should have it, too but I don't think they do.
Ed B.
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:05:43 +0900
To:
Here in India most of the professionals tell me every day that energy
efficiency by itself won't help anyway. It is a matter of the sum of energy
efficiency and energy modesty.
Albrecht Kaupp
Senior Advisor
Indo-German Energy Efficiency and Environment Project, IGEEP
21 Jor Bagh, New Delhi
Last post to Spain should have been off-list, IMHO. Long!
Thanks,
Ed B.
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Hello All,
Finally, sweet success! I found my first steel drum
today, the very nucleus of my biodiesel operation. Kudos to me, I must have
killed a coupla dinosaurs finding it. Anyhow, I think I probably need to
clean the thing, it was used to ship some kind of
David Reid wrote:
That figures is basically true although yield obviously
depends on
a a number of factors such as quality of land, fertilizer, weed
infestation,
rain, insects, etc. That is probably about average for good land.
Somewhere
I have all the information here and I believe it
Hi Folks,
I am new on the list. I am most interested in alcohol production since I don't
have a diesel engine. As a daily driver I have a 30 year old economy car, a
Rambler. I rebuilt the motor so the thing runs great and it is so simple with
power nothing. I have also considered converting it to
I,m confused, why would I need a conversion kit to use Bio Diesel in my
Vw Jetta?
Also can some one tell me how I may process used motor oil into diesel
fuel?
Thanks, Tom Wiggins from Kansas.
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Hello,
As for the drip feed burners, glycerine is not a good fuel. I tried
it for several weeks and the gum deposits are just too much. Next
thing I made was some reading, and so far noone seems to be able to
make glyc burn deposit free with sensible priced equipment.
In Austria the glyc is
I have been considering ways to commercially produce biodiesel in India. My
own thoughts have been along the lines of cargo containers. I want to get
everything operational in 8 x 8 x 20 foot containers. They could be hauled
about, set-up on site, etc. They don't need foundations. If the plant is
Hello All,
Finally, sweet success! I found my first steel drum
today, the very nucleus of my biodiesel operation. Kudos to me, I must have
killed a coupla dinosaurs finding it. Anyhow, I think I probably need to
clean the thing, it was used to ship some kind of
Thankyou very much Dale.
Ian
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: methanol/methoxide vacuum concern
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Hi all
Can someone help me out
Todd,
Is my thinking correct?:
If the energy content of most biodiesals is between 35 and 40 Mj/kg
(Terry
4/27)
Lowest heat of combustion is canola methyl ester at 39.9 Mj/kg
Highest is rape at 40.54 Mj/kg
The rest are in between
D2 is 45.42 Mj/kg
A place to look for used steel drums is the factory for dairy products. If
they reconstitute orange juice they get it in drums with a liner.
I live near Great Falls Mt. and the Meadow Gold plant there turns out about
4 empty drums a week.
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From: Keith Addison
Hi Ed,
Your probably right. Sent it to the group as thought it would be of
interest if anyone else wanted a filter. If I make about $26 or 27 a filter
I certainly dont want to spend any more time than I need on going over
things as I will go broke that way pretty quickly. In this case
Hi Derek and Marc
Have a look at this:
http://www.pipeline.to/biodiesel/Images/Newsltr.pdf
Under the direction of Dale Schutte (Chief Engineer), Mike Moore (VP
of Operations), Keith Fuller (Plant Operations), and Mike Schutte
(Engineering Assistant), the Las Vegas production unit has been
The difference in calorific value of biodiesel of 10% is a theoretical one -
the biodiesel contains around 11% oxygen in the molecular content.
However, this oxygen causes the fuel to react quicker and better than
petrodiesel, with the result that the energy produced is relatively greater.
This
Derek Hargis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been considering ways to commercially produce biodiesel in
India. My
own thoughts have been along the lines of cargo containers. I want to
get
everything operational in 8 x 8 x 20 foot containers. They could be
hauled
about, set-up on site, etc. They
Hi Mark,
If you dont relate to the land you dont relate to nature and
your missing one hell of a lot. Eighty percent of people now live in cities
and think this is all there is to life. My father was a farmer who really
loved the land, and wanted all his children to grow up to be
We have a $2? publication available here in Tampa - Bargain Trader It
seems it's widely available.
their website is: http://www.bargaintraderonline.com/index.html
There's a feller here (found him in the bargain trader) who has(had?) both
steel and pvc drums--$15-20 each? (This is from memory-- I
,
My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i am
interested in making BioDiesel from low grade tallow one of the
drawbacks as i see it is the high FFA at +15% althoough if used on a
daily basis this would be reduced. I have access to 800lt/day and am
looking into the
it's been my hope to use the container idea for building emergency shelters.
fully outfitted units with sleeping/living/eating facilities, all hooked up
to a central power, water, sewage processor container(s). this works well
with your idea. I call it Sheltainer Systems.
Steve Spence
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I'm meeting Dale and Russ today.
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you don't need a conversion kit for biodiesel, but you would for straight
veggie oil (SVO)
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Hi Steve,
I remember reading that some parts of the rapid response forces of the US
military have an entire base constructed in cargo containers. When they
deploy overseas the entire modular city is packed up and shipped with a
minimum of downtime to pack and unpack. The latest US military field
Is my thinking correct?:
If the energy content of most biodiesals is between 35 and 40 Mj/kg (Terry
4/27)
Lowest heat of combustion is canola methyl ester at 39.9 Mj/kg
Highest is rape at 40.54 Mj/kg
The rest are in between
D2 is 45.42 Mj/kg
and #2Diesal is 45 mj/kg then holding all
Hi Marc,
Yes, you're probably right. That was one of the reasons that I mentioned
thinking to restrict myself to designing within only 20 foot containers.
Then, I think a lot of the interior of the container is going to be empty
space surrounding the machinery. I had hoped to move them with a
There are piles of these containers, used, in Newark NJ. You have to see it
to believe it. 10 acres all stacked together, piled 10 at least.
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