Re: [biofuels-biz] Buying Your Beans Back: Farmers say it pays to buy biodiesel

2002-08-05 Thread Len Walde
Question for the list: What use is being, or could be, made of the biomass residuce from the pressing of soybean and other seed oil seed? And, where might I find some of the analysis data on this biomass? Cellulose, hemicellulose and lignin content data would be most helpful too. Many thanks,

Re: [biofuels-biz] Buying Your Beans Back: Farmers say it pays to buy biodiesel

2002-08-05 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Hi Len: Do you mean the presscake? Feed it, burn it, fertilize with it... eat it! Valuable enough stuff. Analysis depends on if from cold pressing or from solvent extraction. If you cold press, the oil is better, and so is the presscake (having in it still just a nice oil content of maybe

Re: [biofuels-biz] Buying Your Beans Back: Farmers say it pays to buy biodiesel

2002-08-05 Thread Steve Spence
-- Original Message -- From: Len Walde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:34:34 -0700 Question for the list: What use is being, or could be, made of the biomass residuce from the pressing of soybean and

Re: [biofuel] WTK: tweaks and add-ons to make *stationary* diesels less polluting

2002-08-05 Thread Ken
Christopher, How about adding a compress air nozzel during or after the headers exhaust. You can add an air compressor and pulley on the engine to give you the compressed air you need. More air in the exhause should mean better conversion of CO to CO2 and lowering of outlet temp. Hope this

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 04 Aug 2002 23:41:19 -0500, you wrote: A acre is about 209 feet squared x 2,635,878 acres divide by 285 million equals 404.623 square feet per person OR about 20 feet squared per capita. How do you get from 404 to 20? How is per person different from per capita? 20 feet squared

Re: [biofuel] On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels - was Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Edward Beggs, I am very sorry and I hear myself very good. I also have some business experience and belive that I operated under good standards. I agree with your comment about politics, but if you can not accept honest financial success, how can you defend politics as we see it today. I

[biofuel] tweaks and add-ons to make *stationary* diesels less polluting

2002-08-05 Thread Darren
I was having a look into stationary diesels recently. The following may be of interest if you haven't seen already http://www.goodnewsindia.com/Pages/content/discovery/honge.html Indian project using honge oil for large gensets http://www.caddet-re.org/infostore/details.php?id=3249. Another

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Steve Spence
rainwater is used for showers, bathing, dish and clothes washing. I currently have an asphalt roof, but the planned pv panels will be the collection area in the future. sheets of plywood in the yard is better than asphalt. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion

Re: [biofuel] On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels - was Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Dear Hakan: No you cannot pick who you sell to, but you certainly can determine who will *want* to come through your door as a customer and how much they will want to buy from you. Government policy - politics, regulations, grants, tax breaks, tax structure, etc. will have a lot to do with

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Steve Spence
see http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/cistern.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [biofuel] Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Todd, Bio fuels are the only thing that at least resembles a silver bullet for the transportation industry. As pointed out by an other contributor, Europe is advancing this. Bio diesel seems to be the more effective choice and the use of diesel engines is larger in Europe than US. The

Re: [biofuel] Genset Efficiency - was: Used lubricants as fuel?

2002-08-05 Thread Steve Spence
rv's will commonly have lp air conditioners. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Christopher Witmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels - was Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Edward Beggs, Now I am confused and do not understand your original attack on my personality. Not your recommendation of literature, that I can understand. Yes, Sweden is a sample of very much governmental steering and formation of Nation wide energy policies. Not always optimized, but

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Kim Garth Travis
I am skeptical of their claim that the sewage has, in reality, been sufficiently treated, including the metals. Dumb question time - where do the heavy metals in the sludge and sewage come from? I use my grey water to water my garden and compost toilets to fertilize my fruit trees. Am I

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Christopher Witmer
MH wrote: Many people could make better use of rainwater that falls on their own roofs. I'm reducing my water needs by collecting rainwater, and using composting toilets. greywater recovery is used for irrigation. I hope you can excuse my ignorance but what do you do with rain water

Re: [biofuel] Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Appal Energy
Hakan, I find no dispute with the difficulties of integrating biofuels (or anything worthwhile) into existing markets. I never have. Nor do I find any dispute that biofuels pose significant benefits to society, no matter what level their use. But simply switching consumption of fuels from one

[biofuel] O.T. but relevent.

2002-08-05 Thread A Wilkins
Hello, I would really appreciate it if some of you could check out the following link and provide your comments as to the validity of this persons claims. It is an electric pump for the coolant system which replaces the mechanical one (if you want). After reading the article I feel that

Re: [biofuel] On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels - was Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Dear Hakan: I am sorry if I have confused an original issue on this discussion, it seems you think that I have (I'll look back and see) - in any case, the exchanges we've had are not, in my view, far removed from reality. Companies can and do influence. They influence government policy, they

Re: [biofuel] Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Curtis Sakima
I do agree with one thing ... that whether we like it or not ... we DO vote with our dollars Someone once made a comment to me, When you buy (the singer) Madonna's records CD's, you are, in effect, supporting the morals and values she portrays. You vote your opinions with your dollars.

Re: [biofuel] Re: EV (GEM) Fire Burns Down Celebrity House

2002-08-05 Thread Curtis Sakima
I'm kinda of an EV nutcase ... so I can tell you probable why . In most cases, the no tranny/drivetrain/axle needs to be engineered FROM SCRATCH at the Automobile Factory. At a large expense. Can be done, but very expensive. Lots of retooling. The replace-the-ICE method of EV'ing appears

RE: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread kirk
Asphalt often releases lighter fractions as do mineral coat materials. For sure don't drink and I don't know if I would shower in it as showers aerosolize a great deal. visquine covered with gravel so sun doesn't destroy it may be a cood collector. I am tired of hauling water and 1000 square feet

Re: [biofuel] Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Christopher Witmer
This is indeed true; however, sometimes if we systematically boycott all the companies whose policies we don't agree with, we can end up hurting ourselves most. We have to decide, okay, is this the hill that I want to die on? Sometimes it is and sometimes it's just not worth the price that we

RE: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread kirk
My daughter said the Chinese gvt is negotiating to buy glacial melt near Juneau. Instead of water running to sea it will go into tanker ships. Kirk -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:55 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject:

[biofuel] Trends I see Was: On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels

2002-08-05 Thread Curtis Sakima
Most of the group pretty much understands where I stand. So I don't think any severe damage would come about by me saying it again. And that is that I personally think ... that a lot of what this WHOLE WORLD is coming down to lately. Is one BIG argument of your morals vs. mine. And more

Re: [biofuel] Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Curtis Sakima
The $1,000,000 question?? :) Curtis --- Christopher Witmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have to decide, okay, is this the hill that I want to die on? = Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL __ Do You Yahoo!?

Re: [biofuel] Trends I see Was: On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels

2002-08-05 Thread Keith Addison
Most of the group pretty much understands where I stand. So I don't think any severe damage would come about by me saying it again. And that is that I personally think ... that a lot of what this WHOLE WORLD is coming down to lately. Is one BIG argument of your morals vs. mine. And more

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Thanks, is there anywhere that lists what has heavy metals in it? I think I have eliminated the problem, completely, but it would be nice to be sure. Kim Appal Energy wrote: Kim, All depends what you wash down the drain. Most heavy metals in grey water and sludge come from industrial

Re: [biofuel] Trends I see Was: On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels

2002-08-05 Thread Curtis Sakima
(LOL)!! I like you Keith!! Curtis --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's new? = Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 06:25 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste Dumb question time - where do the heavy metals in the sludge and sewage come from?

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Greg and April
The big problem is, heavy metals is an every day fact of life, from paint to soap, from water pipe to the can of food. Unless you can find out just how a piece of ceramic was made, you are not likely to know. There are test kits out on the market that could give you an idea of what in your

Re: [biofuel] Trends I see Was: On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels

2002-08-05 Thread Appal Energy
Maybe it's because the morality of people before profit is vastly contradictory to the majority of the market. And no, I don't mean just the immediate needs of present people. I mean the needs of all people, inclusive of generations who don't yet exist. Think about that one for a bit and then

Re: [biofuel] Trends I see Was: On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels

2002-08-05 Thread Ken
Remeber what the great Julias Caeser said: Turn a people against themselves, and they're easy to contain. nunativs?!? - Original Message - From: Curtis Sakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 7:32 AM Subject: [biofuel] Trends I see Was: On The

Re: [biofuel] Re: EV (GEM) Fire Burns Down Celebrity House

2002-08-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 06:17:38 -0400, you wrote: every electric car I've driven has a transmission, drive train, axles, and mechanical steering and braking linkages. the only difference is the ICE was replaced with a 9 or so electric motor. And The gas tank was replaced with electric batteries.

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
That'll be a nice tourist attraction along with the cannery in a few years, once the glacier melts back to nothing. Nice moraine, looks like a highway. Nice clear path of hard dirt outwash plain to the fancy docks where the water ships used to dock. Of course, we'll ride our mountain bikes up

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Greg and April wrote: Depends. How old is the water pipe in your house, six months, pvc and cpvc. pipes from well are 1 year and galvanized tank is 9 years old. the water hard or soft, very soft, high salt content, but last time it was checked, that was all they found, metals were all

Re: [biofuel] Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread MH
With projected global oil reserves said to be one to six trillion barrels remaining and access spreading to Russia's Caspian Sea and Iraq -- incorporating US military bases to secure industrial production, pipelines and shipping it appears to me at the local fueling stations here the price

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste

2002-08-05 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:36 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: AnimalWaste Greg and April wrote: Depends. How old is the water pipe in your house, six

[biofuel] Letter from Matthew Simmons, President of Simmons Company Int'l

2002-08-05 Thread womplex_oo1
. . . . . . . Simmons Company Int'l are investment bankers to the energy industry, as stated on their website, and they alone are a multi- billion dollar corporation. http://www.simmonsco-intl.com/ On the subject of Hubbert's Peak, Matthew Simmons, President and CEO of Simmons Company,

Re: [biofuel] Sewage Waste Water - was: Somewhat OT: Animal Waste

2002-08-05 Thread Greg and April
Does anyone know were I might find out info. about how to design a wetland sewage treatment system? Every thing I have found so far, talks about what it does, not how to make it. Greg H. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free!

RE: [biofuel] Trends I see Was: On The Duty of Marketing Biofuels

2002-08-05 Thread Ryan Morgan
Why the heck did ABC cancel Bill Maher's Politically Incorrect? Anyone notice who sponsored his final show? The Honda Pilot SUV! What a slap in the face from corporate America!!! Irony or a message? -Original Message- From: Curtis Sakima [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August

Re: [biofuel] O.T. but relevent.

2002-08-05 Thread Steve Spence
for similar reasons the mechanical fan was replaced with an electric one. makes sense to me combine it with an overheat shutdown switch. -- Original Message -- From: A Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug

Re: [biofuel] Hubbert Peak

2002-08-05 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Todd, I have for more than 30 years been involved in energy conservation in building constructions http://energysavingnow.com and what you are bringing up is of utmost importance. It is however some very important timing questions here. If you look at average lifetime for a car, it is