Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: californians 50%

2003-01-28 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi MM, I will give you something else to chew on, that is closely related to your HVAC opinion and weather relations. Sweden have a climate that is comparable to Northern US and Southern Canada. The use compared to US and Canada are as follows. The average Swede use 25% energy of the average

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread murdoch
There's a poster in the evworld.com group who has been championing the idea that alternative fuel efforts will continue to be stifled partly by governments until we address governmental lost-revenue issues as we suggest that we use fuels they presently have trouble taxing. I'm forwarding your

[biofuels-biz] Excess methanol - was Re: waste oil burners burning glycerine, ffa's

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison
David T. That's great, you are really progressing here. I've done some fuel combination work, but I've got a lot more to do this spring. The two Babington jets going together probably will work, but it sounds complicated to me. I have one waste oil based flame onto a sloping heavy metal drip

[biofuels-biz] I volunteer to make bumper stickers at cost

2003-01-28 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:34:50 +0800, you wrote: Murdoch, a high quality printer and special sticker paper should work ok, but also I had previously volunteered and am still willing to take orders for bumper stickers and to find a printer, and have them printed and ship them at cost if people

Fwd: Young's Scientific Secrets

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, waljaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another historical reference from Canada is 'Young's Demonstrative Translation of Scientific Secrets; or a Collection of Above 500 useful Receipts on a variety of Subjects'

Fwd: Re: Young's Scientific Secrets

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, waljaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, waljaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The URL http://www.cell2000.net/beowulf is interestin in itself Wal --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, waljaco [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Re: californians 50%

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi MM, I will give you something else to chew on, that is closely related to your HVAC opinion and weather relations. Sweden have a climate that is comparable to Northern US and Southern Canada. The use compared to US and Canada

[biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Nick Taylor (SMTechnology.com)
Hi Guys, Just thought I would let you know what the British government is doing to support Biodieselabsolutely nothing!! Currently here, we are paying silly amounts for our fuel, on average $1.30 (USD) for a litre of dino-diesel and $1.27 for unleaded. Therefore making your own fuel is an

RE: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Nick Taylor (SMTechnology.com)
$1.67 a GALLON??? You are having a laugh...no actually the British government is having a laugh, we pay that per litre ...and they still won't support biodiesel production. The idea of moving to Denmark seems more attractive every day!!! Sorry...never heard of the Air Car...though

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread csakima
Strange ... aren't these the same guys who are one of the few that support GWB in going into a war against Iraq?? Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Nick Taylor (SMTechnology.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Guys, Just

Re: [biofuel] oil production

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison
Doug Foskey wrote: Permaculture is a design system, not a farming system. Which is not to knock it. But,IMO, you'd do better to start with the work of Howard and the founders of organic growing, or at least add it to permaculture. I think this is underrating Permaculture a bit. It IS a

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Elsbett (long)

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Craig Keith, My hope is that others - Greasel, Ed at Neoteric, other as-yet-unknown SVO kit makers - will come up with their own single-tank systems. Stephan seems to be leading the way. http://people.freenet.de/sthl/poel/vegoil.htm http://people.freenet.de/sthl/poel/VegFAQ.htm I'm not

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread murdoch
There's a poster in the evworld.com group who has been championing the idea that alternative fuel efforts will continue to be stifled partly by governments until we address governmental lost-revenue issues as we suggest that we use fuels they presently have trouble taxing. I'm forwarding your

Re: [biofuel] Please help with Yahoo problem

2003-01-28 Thread Kris Book
I belong to 27 yahoo mailing lists but, for the last 4-5 days this is the only list that is coming through to my mailbox. And every time I try to post to a list my mail bounces back. I've been to Yahoo Groups 3 times to try and find the appropriate link to click on but, I can't find anything

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread ~David~
that's the other problem..the problems that governments create. they create more issues than they resolve. don't you get ME started! I don't like ANY of them! Never trust a 'Leader' is one of my favorite sayings. David Weddle - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Please help with Yahoo problem

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison
I belong to 27 yahoo mailing lists but, for the last 4-5 days this is the only list that is coming through to my mailbox. And every time I try to post to a list my mail bounces back. I've been to Yahoo Groups 3 times to try and find the appropriate link to click on but, I can't find anything

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread murdoch
There is a discussion group for the air car here: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mdiaircar/ I've always thought it was an interesting concept and I try to keep my eye on it, though they have not impressed me as really making progress yet in business. Perhaps they will yet. Their business

Re: [biofuel] Re: californians 50%

2003-01-28 Thread murdoch
One of the counter-intuitive aspects here is that since some of the modern California sprawling metropolis areas are some of the new-world areas built on the premise of the car, and on the premise of removing public transportation, I would have thought that we'd have a problem with having a

Re: [biofuel] Craig/ Elsbett/Neoteric G3/Others

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison
Hey, Ed - what's with all the thingies? Makes it harder to follow. On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 10:06 AM, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Craig Keith, Please do. I feel sorta badly about promoting the Elsbett when Ed and Charlie are making such good kits, but the Elsbett is of a

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Greg and April
A $1.30/gal for dino-diesel? I wish it was that cheap here. Here in Colorado Springs, Colorado, we are at a $1.45+ and the local grease traps say there in some kind of ordinance that says they can't give the used grease/oil away to people, cause it's a health hazard. Greg H. - Original

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread studio53
Isn't he talking about $1.30 A LITER? Greg, you are talking about a gallon. --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Greg

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Greg and April
Ok,,,So I just got up and forgot to put on my glasses. ( turns beet red ) I think I'll drink my Pepsi now. I'd swear that I read gallon some were. Greg H. - Original Message - From: studio53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:39 Subject:

[biofuel] RE: californians 50%

2003-01-28 Thread Crabb, David
Also.. I just wanted to state that I was not trying to say that the 50% was only because of the climate. Just that the climate had to be taken into account. If you just look at the san diego zoo as an example. Go there in the summer time, and it is hot as balls outside. In one of the

RE: [biofuel] air car

2003-01-28 Thread Crabb, David
Of course.. since they will need to tax this like they will tax you for making your own bio-diesel.. they will effectively be taxing air... ha Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:55:42 - . From: Nick Taylor (SMTechnology.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Taxed To DEATH $1.67 a GALLON??? You

RE: [biofuel] 1% diesel

2003-01-28 Thread Crabb, David
I think it is because it is extra stinky here, and no one likes to get that stink on their hands.. because you carry that for a while. People are lazy and dont want to put the gloves on.. heh Also, you cant go to every station and get diesel.. so that limits the ability to go driving about late

[biofuel] yahells new trick

2003-01-28 Thread airdriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What they are doing to me, is unsubscibing me from groups then bouncing me for undeliverable mail. arg! I am posting from the web site, so I appologize for any spelling errors. To reset your Yahoo! Groups account, please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/myprefs?edit=2 I copied this from

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Basterfield
A minor point, the Uk duty on biodiesel is 28.6 pence ( rebated by 20 pence of the standard dino d duty rate of 48.6 pence per litre) I make it that 28.6 pence is about 46 cents unless the dollar / pound exchange rate has suddenly gone mad. Ellis and Everard can supply methanol at £205.00 per 45

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Damian J. Anderson
Keep in mind that the British and American gallon are different. A British gallon is 153.72159 fluid ounces (4.54609 liters), an American gallon is 128 fluid ounces (3.7854118 liters). At that rate, your duty is $1.84 per US gallon of diesel, which is more than our total cost. Taxed to death

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH AMEN!

2003-01-28 Thread ~David~
Few people realize..(in the USA) how much tax is paid on fuel.. it is 65cents a gallon in some states...and varies from state to state. Few people outside the USA realize how laws and taxes vary from state to state, county to county, and city to city. What a MACHINE the goverment is.. and I

Re: [biofuel] yahells new trick

2003-01-28 Thread Darryl McMahon
I was kind of intrigued by the situation I ran into with Yahoo this week. I found a group I wanted to subscribe to (used to be on Crest, but apparently moved to Yahoo in my absence a few months ago). So I tried to log in to add the group. But it appears I don't have an account. I checked

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Ken Basterfield
There is road fuel duty to pay on methanol, unless you can convince them otherwise, since it is used in racing engines and the Excise man wants his share. Ken - Original Message - From: Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:08 PM

Re: [biofuel] Please help with Yahoo problem

2003-01-28 Thread murdoch
I have one or two different profiles, and one or two different email addresses to which mail can be sent. So, is it possible that somehow (if only by yahoo doing this without your knowledge) your profile or associated email address for this group might have been set to something different than

[biofuel] I volunteer to make bumper stickers at cost

2003-01-28 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:34:50 +0800, you wrote: Murdoch, a high quality printer and special sticker paper should work ok, but also I had previously volunteered and am still willing to take orders for bumper stickers and to find a printer, and have them printed and ship them at cost if people

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Doug Foskey
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 06:32, you wrote: A minor point, the Uk duty on biodiesel is 28.6 pence ( rebated by 20 pence of the standard dino d duty rate of 48.6 pence per litre) I make it that 28.6 pence is about 46 cents unless the dollar / pound exchange rate has suddenly gone mad. Ellis and

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread James Slayden
3.785 L == 1 Gallon $4.9205 per Gallon - that would well cause a riot in the US. On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, studio53 wrote: Isn't he talking about $1.30 A LITER? Greg, you are talking about a gallon. --- Jesse Parris |

RE: [biofuel] yahells new trick

2003-01-28 Thread Martin Klingensmith
If you're not interested in the web-based features of Yahoo groups, you can send a message to groupname[EMAIL PROTECTED] to subscribe without having a user-id --- Martin Klingensmith infoarchive.net [archive.nnytech.net] nnytech.net -Original Message- From: Darryl McMahon

RE: [biofuel] yahells new trick

2003-01-28 Thread Darryl McMahon
I tried that originally, but the subscribe e-mail bounced with an unknown user message (for the new list I just subscribed to that shall remain nameless, not for biofuel list). Darryl McMahon To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Greg and April
They would be drilling in ANWAR for sure at that point. Greg H. - Original Message - From: James Slayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 14:09 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH 3.785 L == 1 Gallon $4.9205 per Gallon - that would

[biofuel] Re: Fwd: Waste Oil Furnace

2003-01-28 Thread heidinem [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am sorry but I have been asked not to post on this site any more. Although the information on another site is not about the furnaces I was talking about earlier it is the best I can do now. The other site is about convertng fuel oil furnaces to waste vegetable oil.

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH AMEN!

2003-01-28 Thread Appal Energy
A responsible governmnet need not be feared. It's rather doubtful that our highways, airways, sewers, water and electric and perhaps thousands of other systems - all the things that westerners take so much for granted - would be anywhere close to their present state were it not for centralized

[biofuel] Re: Fwd: Waste Oil Furnace

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison
I am sorry but I have been asked not to post on this site any more. Who has asked you that, and why? Keith Addison List moderator Although the information on another site is not about the furnaces I was talking about earlier it is the best I can do now. The other site is about convertng fuel

Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH

2003-01-28 Thread Keith Addison
Keep in mind that the British and American gallon are different. A British gallon is 153.72159 fluid ounces (4.54609 liters), an American gallon is 128 fluid ounces (3.7854118 liters). At that rate, your duty is $1.84 per US gallon of diesel, which is more than our total cost. Taxed to death is

CFL incandescent bulbs -- was: [biofuel] RE: californians 50%

2003-01-28 Thread MH
David Crab wrote: Now.. this is not to say that all the money spent into conservation isn't working.. i certainly would like my state to have the nice incentives for solar and alternative power that Calif has... Right now, I pay 3.5 cents per kWHr.. so it takes a lng time to make the

Re: CFL incandescent bulbs -- was: [biofuel] RE: californians 50%

2003-01-28 Thread girl mark
CF bulb prices are plummeting. 3 for $10 at home depot depending on the wattage. I actually just got five of them through a Grocery Outlet (kind of a bent-can salvage goods store) for 80 cents a piece, but that's unusual. they were about $15 each or more before the calif. energy crisis,

[biofuel] Re: Fwd: Elsbett (long)

2003-01-28 Thread ufiggy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keith, I did talk to Klaus Elsbett about both the English language website and he knows it needs a lot of work. And I told him the directions need to be re-written. We'll see what happens. Craig You wrote Have you told Klaus Elsbett this? That the instructions suck and so on? I know