[biofuels-biz] RE: On the road to cleaner air

2003-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
Keith, would the numbers look similar with Biodiesel? 90% reduction gets thrown around a lot it seems, both for BD use and for low-sulphur fossil D + filters use... Various good numbers on biod that can sound just as good, or better, many of them backed by the EPA. I think also a better

[biofuels-biz] further adventures: vegetable oil powered school bus

2003-02-23 Thread Steve Spence
From Ron: Friday Saturday, Bill I went to Weeki Wachee, Florida met with a friend of mine named Greg, who sells school buses is also very knowledgeable about mechanics.I traded him a converter for 2 tanks to use in filtering my oil, plus he threw in a diesel pump.Both of us had a good

[biofuel] Perturbation of oil demand by war

2003-02-23 Thread jfbusby
1. Does anyone have a good idea how to estimate the increased consumption of petroleum as we ramp up for war (training and deployments) and then prosecute the war. 2. I haven't seen much discussion on producing biodiesel from field crops. I 'm looking for a good source focusing on the bit of

Re: [biofuel] Engine Transplant

2003-02-23 Thread dennis
yes that can be done, you will need different motor and transmission mounts. also the only real problem is matching the driveshaft, a good machine shop can make driveshafts. Ed Hall wrote: I've been kicking around the idea of swapping the 22R in my Toyota PU with a Mercedes 3L. The engine

[biofuel] bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread girl mark
Hi folks, I'm having a devil of a time finding info about the bursting strength (?) of closed head 55 gallon drums. I've been googling and keep finding these government sites having to do with the state of New Jersey's requisition form for windshield washer fluid and other Classic Literature

[biofuel] Re: bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread CornFed (Randy) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as far as a I know 55 gallon drums arent expected to contain pressure. That is probably why you cant find a spec for it. I would imagine that the ratings are more orientated to impact resistance and resistance to chemical activity. you could conduct a test on your own I suppose. Install a

Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears

2003-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
Ken Basterfield wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears Can some one explain to me what all the fuss and prejudice is

Re: [biofuel] Need Info on making ethanol from farm crops

2003-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hello! Where can I get specific instructions on making ethanol, using crops from my own farm? Blessings, texcateyes http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol.html Ethanol: Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html Ethanol resources on the Web Forums General information

Re: [biofuel] Re: bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread Doug Foskey
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:16, you wrote: as far as a I know 55 gallon drums arent expected to contain pressure. That is probably why you cant find a spec for it. I would imagine that the ratings are more orientated to impact resistance and resistance to chemical activity. NEVER use air to

RE: [biofuel] Engine Transplant

2003-02-23 Thread harley3
Dennis: A Drive shaft should be sent to an Auto speed shop. A custom car shop can usually build, balance, and test the shaft before it ever goes into your truck. Most machine shops can't afford special drive shaft balancing machine. You don't want an unbalanced drive shaft. Harley

RE: [biofuel] Re: bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread harley3
I agree with Doug. Using compressed air is probably unsafe. A safety valve stuck on my grandfathers commercial air compressor, and it blew. Sending shrapnel all through his Auto body shop. Luckily no one was hurt, but many a car had holes in them. Harley -Original Message- From:

[biofuel] On the road to cleaner air

2003-02-23 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith, If I may add something. If we see a new war and only a small part of my earlier analyses about destruction of oil field and the following disturbances from sabotage and civil disobedience are true, we will be able to see Biofuels (BF) as a low cost alternative to Fossil fuels (FF). BF

Re: [biofuel] bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread huhcs
I don't know the burst point but over 5 psi they will visbly start to bulge. Ed [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe

Re: [biofuel] Re: bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread Contactos Mundiales
Hi friends: You are putting yourselves in great jeopardy by testing the pressure tolerance of 55 gal drums with air! For God sake, don't you do it. Testing can be accomplisehd with a small water pump that can raise water pressure sufficiently, probably 30 lbs will be enough to burst the drum.

Re: [biofuel] Engine Transplant

2003-02-23 Thread Steve Spence
I pulled a 6 cylinder out of a s10 pickup and dropped in a v8. That was a project . It can be done, but be proficient with welding, tube bending, and farm out the custom driveshaft work. better if you can find a kit. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion

[biofuel] America Is 'Old Europe'

2003-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
Little about American ambitions of turning Iraq into a Middle Eastern democratic experiment shows they know anything more about the Islamic world than Bonaparte and his men did in 1799. http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/7294 America Is 'Old Europe' Unlike The U.S., Europe Learned From

[biofuel] The Bottom Line On Iraq

2003-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
There's money to be made in post-war Iraq, and no one in the administration embodies this bottom line mentality more than Dick Cheney. http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/7289 The Bottom Line On Iraq It's The Bottom Line Arianna Huffington is a syndicated columnist and author of Pigs at

Re: [biofuel] bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread Darryl McMahon
Why does the processor have to be closed? If it is open, even a tiny opening, then it can vent and a pressure relief valve would not be necessary. Take the air out of their requirement by removing the basis for it. How about a pipe projecting from the top of the drum (or the sight

Re: [biofuel] Looking at the RESPONSE ... too all that's going on in the world. Was: PBS - The War Behind Closed Doors

2003-02-23 Thread Darryl McMahon
Keith wrote: The big bugaboo over the dreaded one-world government - does that strike the same fear and loathing into the heart of anyone outside the US I wonder? Count me in (from Canada). I consider formal government at all levels a necessary evil. It seems to act like a kind of

RE: [biofuel] SUV question vs work trucks

2003-02-23 Thread Darryl McMahon
Personal take on this. I maintain a fairly large personal vehicle fleet. Most are electric per my personal beliefs regarding transportation in a winter climate. We do keep one gasoline work truck operational - a full size van that can carry 12 passengers or 750 kg cargo or combinations

RE: [biofuel] Re: bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread kirk
I would use water not air to take my measurement. Kirk -Original Message- From: CornFed (Randy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:17 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: bursting point of drums? as far as a I know 55 gallon

RE: [biofuel] Fw: IS BUSH NUTS? HOW IS.....

2003-02-23 Thread filip.ponsaerts
Steve wrote: Who cares? Probably all the rest of the world that doesn't live cacooned away from the imediate repercussions of Mr. Bush's new policy of first strike and pre-emption. not first srtrike. I was in Manhattan on sept 11th, only a few blocks away. I will never forget. It's really

RE: [biofuel] Looking at the RESPONSE ... too all that's going on in the world. Was: PBS - The War Behind Closed Doors

2003-02-23 Thread filip.ponsaerts
On the 'thing' below, only 5 words: YOU GOT TO BE JOKING Filip it's an interesting observation, and I find little wrong with it. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

[biofuel] Re: bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yup, I;ve been thinking about doing that. It of course would have to vent to the outdoors! though I don't know how much the facility will object to this too- not wanting to put methanol vapors into the atmosphere either. arggh. the only other application where a pressure relief might be a

[biofuel] further adventures: vegetable oil powered school bus

2003-02-23 Thread Steve Spence
From Ron: Friday Saturday, Bill I went to Weeki Wachee, Florida met with a friend of mine named Greg, who sells school buses is also very knowledgeable about mechanics.I traded him a converter for 2 tanks to use in filtering my oil, plus he threw in a diesel pump.Both of us had a good

RE: [biofuel] Fw: IS BUSH NUTS? HOW IS.....

2003-02-23 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Filip, Powell's statements can only serve as a sample on how unscrupulous propaganda works. The effect of that several of the members in the administration stubbornly repeated this earlier, and finally Powell, was the final moment when I lost my respect for him and the whole US

Re: [biofuel] Fw: IS BUSH NUTS? by William ThomasÊ

2003-02-23 Thread Appal Energy
Well Steve, I would have to say that you, as well as many others, are projecting your bitterness upon targets that are convenient, rather than placing that focus on targets that are conclusively deservant based upon fact. And before your first words come out defining these thought processes as

Re: [biofuel] Looking at the RESPONSE ... too all that's going on in the world. Was: PBS - The War Behind Closed Doors

2003-02-23 Thread Appal Energy
The spirit of nationality is a sour ferment of the new wine of democracy in the old bottles of tribalism.

Re: [biofuel] Looking at the RESPONSE ... too all that's going on in the world. Was: PBS - The War Behind Closed Doors

2003-02-23 Thread Steve Spence
British historian Arnold Toynbee Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [biofuel] bursting point of drums?

2003-02-23 Thread Appal Energy
Why not just run a vent line from the closed processor into a condensor? That would precipitate recovery of any methanol fumes and prevent any pressure buildup. As to 55 gallon drums... They are manufactured to meet US DOT standards (in the US of course). It's possible that haz mat teams of fire

Re: [biofuel] The Bottom Line On Iraq

2003-02-23 Thread Appal Energy
Same story. Different day. 1991: G.H.W. Bush - It's about preserving the American lifestyle. 1991: James Baker - It's about jobs. American Jobs. There's money to be made in post-war Iraq, and no one in the administration embodies this bottom line mentality more than Dick Cheney.

Re: [biofuel] Looking at the RESPONSE ... too all that's going on in the world. Was: PBS - The War Behind Closed Doors

2003-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Todd The spirit of nationality is a sour ferment of the new wine of democracy in the old bottles of tribalism. From whence dost this quote come? Sorry - Sir Arnold Toynbee, A Study of History. Good read, with an awesome sweep to it. He doesn't fit into a nutshell, but... British

RE: [biofuel] Fw: IS BUSH NUTS? by William ThomasÊ

2003-02-23 Thread Tim Owens
I though this news group was for biofuel not politics. I get enough of that crap on TV. We all have one thing in common. The desire to be self sufficient no matter who is in charge. Let's keep our political views to the political news groups and by GOD let's make our own fuel. : )

[biofuel] question about turning a RAV4 EV into a grid-chargeable hybrid

2003-02-23 Thread murdoch
Since the RAV4 EV can be owned and not just leased, (unlike the EV1, Honda EV+, Think EV at present, etc.), and since it seems to be a pretty good EV in many respects, I am wondering if anyone has given any thought to using a RAV4 EV in a project to equip it with some hybrid aspect.

Re: [biofuel] Perturbation of oil demand by war

2003-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
1. Does anyone have a good idea how to estimate the increased consumption of petroleum as we ramp up for war (training and deployments) and then prosecute the war. 2. I haven't seen much discussion on producing biodiesel from field crops. I 'm looking for a good source focusing on the bit of

Re: [biofuel] Re: GM Can't Do It

2003-02-23 Thread Darryl McMahon
Perhaps the lack of comment comes from a sentiment of What, again?. My initial response was to ignore it as just one more refrain of the same old automakers song. This is the same group that has previously told us they could not: install safety glass, install seat belts, install air bags,

Re: [biofuel] question about turning a RAV4 EV into a grid-chargeable hybrid

2003-02-23 Thread Steve Spence
A small 15 hp yanmar diesel in a small trailer with a 55 gallon barrel for a vegetable oil tank would do the trick. when you don't want a long trip, keep the gen trailer at home. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology:

[biofuel] Jeb Bush in Spain

2003-02-23 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi Keith, For quite a while now the Spanish TV have played a part of Jeb Bush speech to Asnar around 100 times a day. They think it is very funny and it was held in Spanish. Jeb Bush visited Spain to support his brother and Asnar's willingness to attack Iraq against the will of the Spanish

[biofuel] Fw: How To Use Duck Tape

2003-02-23 Thread kris_b_81004
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Re: [biofuel] Jeb Bush in Spain

2003-02-23 Thread Hakan Falk
Sorry if I was confused. It is some people here that started to call Aznar for Assnar , after his very unpopular support of Bush and the war. In my head I was thinking about it, but I do not normally use this kind of epithets. So my misspelling of Aznar to Asnar was not deliberate. Maybe Jeb

RE: [biofuel] Jeb Bush in Spain

2003-02-23 Thread Ed
No worries mates. The Iraq situation is totally manufactured. We put Saddam in power. We sent him into Kuwait, raising the price of oil for Russia to gain hard dollars to support the democratization effort. We didn't follow the Republican guard into Baghdad ..why?.Local objections? I doubt

Re: [biofuel] Perturbation of oil demand by war

2003-02-23 Thread Ken Provost
John Busby writes: 2. I haven't seen much discussion on producing biodiesel from field crops. I 'm looking for a good source focusing on the bit of the process going from harvest through oil extraction and oil cleanup. Can anyone give guidance. For cleanup (biodiesel production?) see the

RE: [biofuel] question about turning a RAV4 EV into a grid-chargeable hybrid

2003-02-23 Thread Martin Klingensmith
It would certainly void a warranty, but it is an interesting idea of course. One would have to do some 'reverse engineering' to determine how the batteries could be charged without interfering with the circuits already in place. You would probably want a generator of around 20-30 HP to make it

RE: [biofuel] question about turning a RAV4 EV into a grid-chargeable hybrid

2003-02-23 Thread Martin Klingensmith
Good idea Steve --- Martin Klingensmith infoarchive.net [archive.nnytech.net] nnytech.net -Original Message- From: Steve Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 4:13 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] question about turning a RAV4 EV into a

[biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking at the RESPONSE ... too all that's going onin the world.

2003-02-23 Thread csakima
Well, first of all SHEESH (all the responses) it's just MY little observation!! (LOLOL, lots of lol!!) Seriously though, the only reason why I see that silly one-world government coming was when I saw a televised video of (I think) Colin Powell (??) testifying before the Security

[biofuel] The good 'ol days Was: question about turning a RAV4 EV into a grid-chargeable hybrid

2003-02-23 Thread csakima
Couldn't help but chuckle Martin!! As long as I can remember, I've always been an experimenter. I think for the most part, I've always driven to work in ahem experiments. From dropping in Weber Carbs .. to LPG propane Mixers ... to helping friends do engine swaps with engines not

RE: [biofuel] Jeb Bush in Spain

2003-02-23 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Ed, At 05:41 PM 2/23/2003 -0600, you wrote: No worries mates. The Iraq situation is totally manufactured. No, badly manufactured. We put Saddam in power. No, only supported him. His predecessor was a dangerous man, started the process of nullifying and nationalizing the US/UK Iraqi oil

Re: [biofuel] Just one man's observation! Was: Looking at the RESPONSE ... too all that's going onin the world.

2003-02-23 Thread Hakan Falk
Curtis, Obviously you like the idea to wage war against a nation with 80% of the population under 16 and suppressed women. What a formidable global threat to the heroic US of A. Take away the old men and the crippled from previous wars and it is only less than 10% of the population left to

[biofuel] Huh???? Was: Just one man's observation!

2003-02-23 Thread csakima
You must forgive me ... my intelligence must be too low or something. Or maybe because it is 11:00 PM my time. You've totally lost me. I'm not sure what give anyone the idea of good 'ol me wanting to wage a war. I'll try to answer the question when I understand what it is ..