Re: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System...

2003-05-15 Thread Appal Energy
Keith, Not to worry. The blueprint is in the offing. As there is but a slight that one being can offer, best to put data in a public place and let the fish play. Todd Swearingen Appal Energy - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 15, 200

Re: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System...

2003-05-15 Thread Ray Holan
Ben, we have a system running here in Cleveland, Ohio that can be assembled very inexpensively. We'd be happy to have you come up and visit and we'll have you pitch in, make a batch, and see how the setup can be assembled back home in WV. Drop me a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 5/15/03 4:39 AM,

Re: [biofuel] White fumes

2003-05-15 Thread mark schofield
Dear Andy Yes I agree. Further, an additional problem of using SVO heated or otherwise is directly associated with blow past gases and sump oil polymerisation. Regards Mark __ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/bt

RE: [biofuel] Wind Power -- a European Success Story

2003-05-15 Thread Hakan
Already now it is use of storage dams for hydroelectric power and this could be combined with both wind and solar in the future. Surplus electricity is used to pump water up to the dams. With a large expansion of nuclear, storage dams must be considered also. This to even out low and high peak de

Re: [biofuel] Wind Power -- a European Success Story

2003-05-15 Thread Greg and April
I would be willing to bet that it could be taken care of just with all the " hot wind " from the politicians in D.C. alone. Greg H. - Original Message - From: "Bryan Brah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 12:58 Subject: RE: [biofuel] Wind Power -- a European Success

[biofuels-biz] Re: Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines: Comparative Testing

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
Uploaded now, it's here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_SVO-palm.html Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines Best wishes - and thanks, Gumpon! Keith >I know it's a bit late, but rather than sending copies all over the >place, could/would Keith place this onto the journey to

[biofuel] Re: Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines: Comparative Testing

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
Uploaded now, it's here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_SVO-palm.html Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines Best wishes - and thanks, Gumpon! Keith >I know it's a bit late, but rather than sending copies all over the >place, could/would Keith place this onto the journey to

RE: [biofuel] Wind Power -- a European Success Story

2003-05-15 Thread kirk
Problem with storage. The energy is there but not all the time. Kirk -Original Message- From: Bryan Brah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 12:58 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Wind Power -- a European Success Story Small-scale wind power utili

Re: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System...

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ben, Todd Just to say... >Feel free to contact us if this sounds like it's your cup of tea. Be nice if any such discussions happened on-list as far as possible, valuable I think, and then all could share (as well as the archives). regards Keith >Ben, > >If you're intending to use greas

[biofuel] Fwd: Re: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System...

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd from biofuels-biz >To: >From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 07:42:36 -0500 >Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System... > >Ben, > >If you're intending to use grease from your dining halls, I imagine that >you're going to have more than 1,000 gallons

[biofuels-biz] Small steps by GM

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
General Motors -- last year dubbed "Global Warmer Number One" by Environmental Defense -- is taking small steps to clean up its vehicle fleet, not to mention its image. The company has announced that it will add new gas-saving technology to most of its SUVs and pickup trucks by 2008, beginning

[biofuel] Small steps by GM

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
General Motors -- last year dubbed "Global Warmer Number One" by Environmental Defense -- is taking small steps to clean up its vehicle fleet, not to mention its image. The company has announced that it will add new gas-saving technology to most of its SUVs and pickup trucks by 2008, beginning

RE: [biofuel] Wind Power -- a European Success Story

2003-05-15 Thread Bryan Brah
Small-scale wind power utilization is definitely NOT the trend in the US. Installed capacity here generally consists of 80 - 300 MW farms of hundreds of 1MW + turbines. There is great popular support for wind in the US as evidenced by the fact that consumers are willing to pay a premium for w

Re: [biofuel] Want to get into biodiesel--Tips?

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
cmooser2000 wrote: >Hi, I am just getting interested in biodiesel and I like some advice >on where to begin. Here: "Where do I start?" http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start >What cars are the best? Any diesel. >How do you convert a >car? No conversion is needed for biodiesel.

Re: [biofuel] White fumes

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
>Mark, >I agree that it is unlikely that the vegoil is bringing enough water into >the system to cause the white smoke, which water will do. Not heating the >mixture with a cold engine could cause a bad spray pattern and/or >insufficient atomization leaving part of the fuel unburned. This will s

Re: [biofuel] washing diesel

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mark >Dear Keith > >I don't always respond thats true but I do read. >The mixing is limited to 5 minutes because thats >all the blender will take before it smells of >burning plastic. So switch it off for 5 minutes to let it cool down a bit then mix for another 5 minutes, and so on, for a

Re: [biofuel] glycerin buyers?

2003-05-15 Thread Kim Nguyen
How does one get rid of the "glycerol" from bio-diesel production?, especially in larger quantities...is it more cost effective and environmentally responsible to invest in glycerol processing equipment so one doesn't have to "discard" the entire mixture? Kim Sac, CA >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/10

[biofuels-biz] Wind Power -- a European Success Story

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15899 Wind Power -- a European Success Story By Craig Morris, Telepolis May 13, 2003 As we saw in the last installment on wind power, http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15900 (Are Wind Turbines Actually Bird Blenders?) wind turbines are neith

[biofuel] Wind Power -- a European Success Story

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15899 Wind Power -- a European Success Story By Craig Morris, Telepolis May 13, 2003 As we saw in the last installment on wind power, http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15900 (Are Wind Turbines Actually Bird Blenders?) wind turbines are neith

[biofuel] Oil and energy interviews

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
... with transcripts (mostly) http://globalpublicmedia.com/INTERVIEWS/RICHARD.HEINBERG/ Richard Heinberg discussing 'The Party's Over - Oil, War, and the Fate of Industrial Societies' (Telephone interview to Santa Rosa, CA on 28th February 2003 ) * In three large, continuous sections Part 1 [4

[biofuels-biz] Oil and energy interviews

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
... with transcripts (mostly) http://globalpublicmedia.com/INTERVIEWS/RICHARD.HEINBERG/ Richard Heinberg discussing 'The Party's Over - Oil, War, and the Fate of Industrial Societies' (Telephone interview to Santa Rosa, CA on 28th February 2003 ) * In three large, continuous sections Part 1 [4

Re: [biofuels-biz] Website

2003-05-15 Thread Sam Critchley
Hi Steven, other readers, Great site, very interesting stuff you're doing (perhaps worth commercialising too!). One question. How many acres/hectares of land do you think it would take to go to 100% BD for your 20-30,000 litre annual requirement? Is there already enough farmland in Australia

Re: [biofuel] White fumes

2003-05-15 Thread Andy & Lynn
Mark, I agree that it is unlikely that the vegoil is bringing enough water into the system to cause the white smoke, which water will do. Not heating the mixture with a cold engine could cause a bad spray pattern and/or insufficient atomization leaving part of the fuel unburned. This will show m

Re: [biofuel] washing diesel

2003-05-15 Thread mark schofield
Dear Keith I don't always respond thats true but I do read. The mixing is limited to 5 minutes because thats all the blender will take before it smells of burning plastic. I agree that the mixing time is short and it is conducted at room temperature only for the moment. I do have, however, a hot

Re: [biofuels-biz] Glycerin Analysis

2003-05-15 Thread Kristen Stremlau
Todd, Thank you for your insight. And you are correct in that the Sigma-Adrich kit is currently not accepted by ASTM. However our preliminary validation data impressed NBAC, who is currently sponsoring a nationwide validation for this kit and have representatives to ASTM on their committee. Th

[biofuel] (unknown)

2003-05-15 Thread mehmet duger
Dear friends I need to learn more detail about ethanol as a fuel and before began to use ethanol on my car is there any modification that i do. Ýf there is some instrument for ethanol use, how and where can i supply that. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search -

[biofuels-biz] Website

2003-05-15 Thread Steven & Helen Hobbs
I have just got my website up and running, Feel free to take a look and sign the guest book! http://www.bebioenergy.com/ Cheers Steven PS Feel free to forward to anyone else who may be interested [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Spon

[biofuel] The oil-consumption party is over, author warns

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
See below for interview transcripts. http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20775/story.htm The oil-consumption party is over, author warns USA: May 13, 2003 NEW YORK - Famine, disease, economic collapse, despotism, and resource wars. Sounds horrific, but that's what's in store u

[biofuels-biz] The oil-consumption party is over, author warns

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
See below for interview transcripts. http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20775/story.htm The oil-consumption party is over, author warns USA: May 13, 2003 NEW YORK - Famine, disease, economic collapse, despotism, and resource wars. Sounds horrific, but that's what's in store u

Re: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System...

2003-05-15 Thread Appal Energy
Ben, If you're intending to use grease from your dining halls, I imagine that you're going to have more than 1,000 gallons annually, unless you are a whoppingly miniscule college. Might I suggest that you abandon the idea of "not for profit" and opt instead for "reasonable rate of return?" You co

Re: [biofuels-biz] Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines: Comparative Testing

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
>Would it be possible to post this report to the Files area of the group? >It would save emailing it to every subscriber who wanted it...like me. > >Marc de Piolenc The Files area is not the ideal place for it, nor for anything, IMHO. I said in a previous message I'd post it at Journey to Foreve

[biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Biodiesel in Thailand

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd from Capt Samai in Thailand, sent to the Biofuels-biz group: >To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com >From: Sam Jai-In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:41:36 +0100 (BST) >Subject: [biofuels-biz] Biodiesel in Thailand >Reply-To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > >http://www.bangkokpost.c

Re: [biofuels-biz] Biodiesel in Thailand

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
Well done Capt Samai!!! :-) regards Keith >http://www.bangkokpost.com/Business/13May2003_biz31.html > >ENERGY >Navy joins biodiesel venture > >Armed forces vehicles could use new fuel > >Yuthana Praiwan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get A Free Psyc

[biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System...

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd from the Biofuels-biz list: >To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com >From: "Ben Shuman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 04:39:32 -0400 >Subject: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System... >Reply-To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > >Hello all > >I'm sure this question will be quite

[biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System...

2003-05-15 Thread Ben Shuman
Hello all I'm sure this question will be quite similar to other questions that have been answered many times in the past, but i'm new and don't hurt me ;) The eastern WV college which I attend is the owner of a 200 acre farm which is currently seeing little use. There is an initiative to u

Re: [biofuel] washing diesel

2003-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
>Dear All > >OK, I have reacted the sodium methoxide and >virgin oil together in a blender for 5 minutes. Why only five minutes? That's not enough. Did you heat the oil? If not why not? If so, to what temperature? Where did you get your instructions from? Wherever, I think you'd be a lot better

Re: [biofuel] washing diesel

2003-05-15 Thread mark schofield
Dear All OK, I have reacted the sodium methoxide and virgin oil together in a blender for 5 minutes. The mixture is left to settle for 48 hrs. The glycerol and ME phase separates. I remove the ME phase and wash using a fish tank bubbler. The ME phase does separate but doesnt look so clear. Righ

[biofuel] collecting WVO

2003-05-15 Thread Clifford Ryer
How are most of you biodiesel makers out there collecting your waste vegetable oil. Are you pumping from the fry-joint's tank? I looked around at 5 of the places in my area that use a lot of fry oil. They all have a plastic dumpster provided by the waste oil company. I assume the company p

Re: (Fwd) Re: [biofuels-biz] Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural D

2003-05-15 Thread gumpon
Dear Sir There is no academic copyright. This paper will be published in SONGKLANAKARIN Journal of Science and Technology Vol.25 No.3 May-June 2003. Anyone who want a copy of this article can ask for it at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it will be free for distribution (after the paper has

Re: [biofuels-biz] Glycerin Analysis

2003-05-15 Thread Kristen Stremlau
In general, all these tests are qualitative, not quantitative. I am getting the feeling that the small scale producers who want hard numbers will send their product to a commercial laboratory for ASTM testing, instead of doing the test in-house. But I am very curious about the paper chromatogra