Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
My dear brother, I believe I understand what you are saying here. However, we as citizens of this United States of America must unite not only under this President for the next four years, but under every one that follows after him. “United We Stand… Divided We Fall”. That is how I

[Biofuel] biodiesel processor

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RE: FW: [Biofuel] what are the on about?

2004-11-05 Thread Peggy
Thank you Keith, and I recall previously reading your notes about Graham. Moreeover, if I can quote his retraction as a sited example for future reference it would be a great adjunct to my presentations. So far, the industry is still inviting me to participate and we expect to offer more

[Biofuel] where to buy KOH and Ethanol

2004-11-05 Thread Joe . Guthrie
Hi to all, I'm looking for a good supply place in the sf bay area to buy chemicals. Or elsewhere if necessary. Any suggestions would be welcome. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at

Re: [Biofuel] the vote

2004-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
Something to think about. Friedrich Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey Brian, dont you forget,that GWB has good connections to the Bin Laden Family! How about he asked for that Tape to support his reelection? Fritz - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 04,

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Information on Sawdust processing

2004-11-05 Thread CONTACTOS MUNDIALES
Dear Fritz: Sawdust and another fibrous waste, such as sugar cane bagasse yield excellent boards as well as briquettes. I will give a try to both products. The choice of binders is important, since one would like to stay away from formaldehyde based glues. Another binder I will try is a lignin

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: 1st processor in Mexico

2004-11-05 Thread Legal Eagle
Lord knows the Mexicans are almost as adamant about fried foods as the Americans are, so plenty of feed stock :) Luc - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: 1st processor in

Re: [Biofuel] New biodiesel processor uploaded

2004-11-05 Thread Legal Eagle
effort. Your comments are truly an encouragement. Honestly (I don't do anything else well), the only experience I have had with building anything was when I was about 8 with my Dad when we(!) built a steam bath on the water's edge at the summer cottage. (it is still there by the way, ha!)

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Ken Provost
on 11/4/04 4:06 PM, Jonathan Dunlap at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe I understand what you are saying here. However, we as citizens of this United States of America must unite not only under this President for the next four years, but under every one that follows after him. ?United We

[Biofuel] UK Wave and Tidal Energy

2004-11-05 Thread MH
Britain wants 15 percent of the countryâs electricity needs to be met with renewable energy by 2015... Britain seeks to make waves with renewable energy (Reuters) 25 October 2004 HAYLE, England - Denmark catches the most wind for power. Japan absorbs the most sun. Now Britain wants

[Biofuel] Renewable Energy Outlook 2004

2004-11-05 Thread MH
International Energy Agency's World Energy Outlook Runs Out of Control OCT 27, 2004 http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1027-03.htm AMSTERDAM -- October 27 -- Originally published on October 26 -- Greenpeace today criticized the International Energy Action (IEA) to fail to properly

Re: [Biofuel] Hot water heater processor help

2004-11-05 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Tracy Longworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Hot water heater processor help You can always snoop mine. It may not be exactly what you wnat but it could provide some ideas.

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Appal Energy
That was Shrub's empty promise four years ago. The man will say whatever it takes to get what he wants and then move on - the quintesential flip-flopper and not one to be trusted or left unwatched. I believe the mantra for the next four years of turmoil, arrogance and oppression exerted by

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
Man... Dubya??? Unite = join, fuse, mix, bone, Come together… I could go on and on… If We as a Country do not Unite is some way then we as a Country are weak. We all do not have to agree on every issue. That is the very thing that makes this Country unique. Remember… Freedom of speech,

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
I feel what you are saying and in many ways I agree. However, I ask you this… What is your solution to this issue? I’m all ears… Jonathan Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Unity? Hah!!! That was Shrub's empty promise four years ago. The man will say whatever it takes to get what he

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Legal Eagle
about to, get it. Luc - Original Message - From: Jonathan Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years Man... Dubya??? Unite = join, fuse, mix, bone, Come together. I could go on and on. If We as a

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Appal Energy
continue to work in the directions that he refuses to. It's really rather simple Jonathan. No one needs to walk side by side with someone who is as dishonest and disengenuous as is Mr. Bush. He may be in the White House, but he remains a louse. Which makes him and his ilk personnas non

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor

2004-11-05 Thread Legal Eagle
available ones. Why not just build your own? take all the time you need. Paris wasn't built in a day and neither will your reactor. Luc - Original Message - From: Gabriel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:58 PM Subject: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] the vote

2004-11-05 Thread robert luis rabello
Hello, what a discouraging event Don't be disheartened. We had no tanks in the streets, and no soldiers with automatic weapons preventing people from casting votes. It could have been a LOT worse! At least in this manner, Mr. Bush and the NeoCons will not be able to blame Mr.

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: RV: gallegos vs americanos (pas— de verdad d e la wen a)

2004-11-05 Thread robert luis rabello
Friends, Got the following good story in Spanish. I know that many of you can read and enjoy it. Hakan That's funny in ANY language, even if it's an apocryphal story! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind

Re: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
To put to much into the fact that gwb won by an excess of 3.5 millions votes is only spin, when nearly half (49%) of those who voted, voted against gwb. Yet his supporters claim a mandate, near as I can tell they are basing mandate on electoral votes, that would be using skewed statistic because

Re: [Biofuel] A new area someone should push biodiesel...

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
But then when the starting loads require a lot of initial torque, a timid throttle application doesn't get the job done and aggressive application of throttle is needed. A perceived excess of excess of exhaust fumes or smoke doesn't neccessarly mean improper operation. Doug --- Outgoing mail

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
United We Stand. Divided We Fall. While it seems simple on the face of it, I really never understood what united the piece of rhetoric really means. Does it mean I'm required to be complicate in activity what I may believe wrong or immoral? I sorry, given when I see it used it seems to be

Re: [Biofuel] the vote

2004-11-05 Thread jtcava
robert luis rabello wrote: Ross Cannon wrote: Hello, what a discouraging event Don't be disheartened. We had no tanks in the streets, and no soldiers with automatic weapons preventing people from casting votes. YET. ___ Biofuel

RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: RV: gallegos vs ame ricanos (paso de verdad de la wen a)

2004-11-05 Thread Juan Boveda
Hola Hakan. This is really good and gives an idea on how somedoby supposelly as the best and full of power could make mistakes and get into a big trouble in an argumet with someone regarded as dumb but knows where he is on earth and his dutty. Regards. Juan -Mensaje original- De:

RE: [Biofuel] dead leaves?

2004-11-05 Thread Peggy
Hello Gabriel, The cost associated with cellulosic processing involves setting up a lab or purchasing microbes which can be expensive if they are bought for each individual load of processed materials. When we set up cellulosic processing plants that can digest paper, leaves, wood slash, whole

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Michael Redler
The United We Stand slogan has been used to promote nationalism and fear of them, whoever they are (i.e. rogue nations, terrorists, etc. of GWB's choosing) so much it makes want to vomit. I prefer Ben Franklin's sentiments, We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang

RE: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-05 Thread Tim Ferguson
I believe that those who are saying this is a mandate (media) are basing this on the fact that not only did George Bush win both the electoral votes but a majority of the popular vote which was the largest margin since his fathers election (meaning the very popular Democrat Bill Clinton did not

Re: [Biofuel] Jean Pain woodchip compost pile space heater?

2004-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
Certainly some of the biofuel lurkers and respondents know of this famous French agroforestry guru, Jean Pain. One of his interesting projects was to use the chips from the slash and thinnings of the forests for space heating. Decomposing chips, piled on exterior masonry walls heated the

RE: FW: [Biofuel] what are the on about?

2004-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
Thank you Keith, and I recall previously reading your notes about Graham. Moreeover, if I can quote his retraction as a sited example for future reference it would be a great adjunct to my presentations. So far, the industry is still inviting me to participate and we expect to offer more

Re: [Biofuel] Jean Pain woodchip compost pile space heater?

2004-11-05 Thread Hakan Falk
Rob, It is very interesting to look at traditional farm buildings from thousand years back and up to the start of using fossil fuels like coal and oil. Using the heat from the animals and the composting for both space heating and fertilizing are repeated themes in most parts of the world.

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread DHAJOGLO
Together or Divided one thing is for suer... Regan-esque deficit spending coupled with [corporate] tax-cuts will make for high inflation and a bad economy. Surley you remember the 80s? My dear brother, I believe I understand what you are saying here. However, we as citizens of this United

RE: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Tim Ferguson
Luc, Do you have any news links about law enforcement or judicial investigations into the claims of Die bold involved in voter fraud. I would be interested in reading them. Thank you, Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Legal Eagle Sent:

Re: [Biofuel] 2004 US Presidential Election Results

2004-11-05 Thread Ken Chua
It's no surprise that the whole world wanted a Kerry win. From the media and e-mails and comments from Americans, i though Kerry would have won without breaking a sweat but we now know otherwise. The scary implication of this win is that it projects an America that believes in George Bush more

Re: [Biofuel] the vote

2004-11-05 Thread btmd
Something to think about. Friedrich Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey Brian, dont you forget,that GWB has good connections to the Bin Laden Family! How about he asked for that Tape to support his reelection? Fritz I had certainly thought of that, but being the person who suggested

RE: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-05 Thread btmd
I believe that those who are saying this is a mandate (media) are basing this on the fact that not only did George Bush win both the electoral votes but a majority of the popular vote which was the largest margin since his fathers election (meaning the very popular Democrat Bill Clinton

[Biofuel] U.S. tries to block support for policies on global warming

2004-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
The Seattle Times: Nation World Friday, November 05, 2004 - Page updated at 12:00 A.M. U.S. tries to block support for policies on global warming By Juliet Eilperin The Washington Post WASHINGTON - The Bush administration has been working for months to keep an upcoming eight-nation report

[Biofuel] The Ultimate Felony Against Democracy

2004-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
Published on Thursday, November 4, 2004 by CommonDreams.org The Ultimate Felony Against Democracy by Thom Hartmann The hot story in the Blogosphere is that the erroneous exit polls that showed Kerry carrying Florida and Ohio (among other states) weren't erroneous at all - it was the numbers

[Biofuel] Kerry Won

2004-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
Published on Thursday, November 4, 2004 by TomPaine.com Kerry Won by Greg Palast Kerry won. Here's the facts. I know you don't want to hear it. You can't face one more hung chad. But I don't have a choice. As a journalist examining that messy sausage called American democracy, it's my job

[Biofuel] Ultimate Felony Against Democracy

2004-11-05 Thread MH
The Ultimate Felony Against Democracy by Thom Hartmann Nov 4, 2004 http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1104-38.htm NOTE: numerous links at website above. The hot story in the Blogosphere is that the erroneous exit polls that showed Kerry carrying Florida and Ohio (among other states)

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
Yes! And can never forget them. One thing... I never said I was for the guy. Did not vote for him this time nor the last time! However, what is done is done… Somehow we all must make the best of it. Every one I know do not believe he won. Most people I know, here in the US and elsewhere in

Re: [Biofuel] What the...!

2004-11-05 Thread Michael Redler
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/05/nyregion/05strafe.html?th I don't know what to say. Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] Jean Pain woodchip compost pile space heater?

2004-11-05 Thread Fritz
Hi Hakan, a relict of this old Heatingmethod is the Kachelofen,a mostly out of Firebricks an Silicatceramictiles more than 1 Inch thick and very decorative Tieles! I am proud to say that i am installing such a Heatingdevice soon in my house!It is the Ultimate in Comfort and cosines FRitz -

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years

2004-11-05 Thread Legal Eagle
A neat graph here: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/exit_poll.gif Hold on to your hat, this may be long; 1- http://www.dispatch.com/election/election-president.php?story=dispatch/2004/11/05/20041105-A6-01.html 2-http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000712.html 3- http

[Biofuel] More votes than voters

2004-11-05 Thread Legal Eagle
Forgot one. This has more votes for Bush that there are even people in the county, by a few thousand. http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000712.html ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Biofuel] The Liberal Waterloo

2004-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
The Liberal Waterloo: (Or, finally some good news from Washington!) -- In These Times November 5, 2004 The Liberal Waterloo (Or, finally some good news from Washington!) By Slavoj Zizek The first reaction of progressives to Bush's second victory was that of despair, even fear: The last

RE: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-05 Thread DHAJOGLO
Actually, I think the narrowest win was in 2000 when the supreme court chose the president! What was it, 5-4 for bush? Just 1 vote (and not by, of, and for the people I might add). it was the narrowest win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

RE: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
court chose the president! What was it, 5-4 for bush? Just 1 vote (and not by, of, and for the people I might add). it was the narrowest win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916. It's true that President Bush got more votes than any winning candidate for president in

Re: [Biofuel] PH strips question

2004-11-05 Thread Legal Eagle
suppliers to high school and university chem departments. IMHO you would be better off with a good quality electronic PH meter. They are not cheap however they do do a good job ;) Luc - Original Message - From: Jeff Hengehold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: [Biofuel] 4 more years -- State IQ and Election Results

2004-11-05 Thread Michael Redler
Can anyone substantiate this? http://geekgossip.net/2004election_by_iq.png Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel

RE: [Biofuel] 4 more years -- State IQ and Election Results

2004-11-05 Thread Tim Ferguson
Does this imply that everyone has a right to exist but only those of the highest intellect have the right to govern or elect those who govern? And what is the cutoff that determines who is in which segment? Best wishes, Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
OK I admit I should have used a relative phrase large majority or something to that effect. IMO those who claim gwb has a mandate from the voters when 49% voted against him are doing a spin. Yes others used spin in the past but, I'm concerned about current spin. I didn't suggest he didn't when

RE: [Biofuel] 4 more years -- State IQ and Election Results

2004-11-05 Thread Michael Redler
Tim, Those are all good questions. I can't speak for anyone but myself when I say that any implications or conclusions about someones research (good or bad) needs to be set aside until it is substantiated. Right now, I don't have an opinion -- just curiosity. Mike Tim Ferguson [EMAIL

[Biofuel] Revisting cool storage- book- sunshine to dollars

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, the following link is information for a book for sale but scrolling to the bottom you see the book is suppose to contain information on ice making and home cooling. Doug http://www.knowledgepublications.com/kp_sunshinetodollars.htm Find out how we made this 25 pound block of ice the girls are

Re: [Biofuel] Kerry Won

2004-11-05 Thread F. Desprez
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1104-36.htm Published on Thursday, November 4, 2004 by TomPaine.com Kerry Won by Greg Palast (...) An answer from a friend of mine (just kidding, we love you quand meme from the other side of Atlantic) http://www.lnreview.co.uk/news/004550.php FD

RE: off topic flame: Re: [Biofuel] 38 short hours to go

2004-11-05 Thread Erik Lane
--- DHAJOGLO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I think the narrowest win was in 2000 when the supreme court chose the president! What was it, 5-4 for bush? Just 1 vote (and not by, of, and for the people I might add). it was the narrowest win for a sitting president since Woodrow

Re: [Biofuel] Kerry Won

2004-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
Only in America! F. Desprez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Keith Addison a écrit : http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1104-36.htm Published on Thursday, November 4, 2004 by TomPaine.com Kerry Won by Greg Palast (...) An answer from a friend of mine (just kidding, we love you quand meme from