Re: [Biofuel] 1st batch bd. failed

2005-07-22 Thread Liwa Low
Liwa Low wrote: I have PH paper but I don't know how to use them. Should I dilute my BD in Rubbing alcohol and throw one paper in?? From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds more like soap. What's the PH? Liwa Low wrote: I am using fresh cooking oil. (RBD Palm oiliec) and I am following the

Re: [Biofuel] 1st batch bd. failed

2005-07-22 Thread Keith Addison
Liwa Low wrote: I have PH paper but I don't know how to use them. Should I dilute my BD in Rubbing alcohol and throw one paper in?? Liwa We can't help you because you haven't really given us any useful information on what you did and just how you did it. There are a lot of variables. Go

Re: [Biofuel] methanol and airmodel engine fuel

2005-07-22 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 05:23:11PM -0500, James G. Branaum wrote: I buy my methanol in bulk at the local representative of the refinery. I strongly suspect is probably not available in your area. I also don't think you want to use it unless you make it yourself. What do you mean by making it

Re: [Biofuel] adding carbon vs. carbon dioxide to the atmosphere

2005-07-22 Thread Appal Energy
True. But then again nowhere near as true the consequences as you would like. Nature works in geologic time. Man's actions and the incumbent consequences are instantaneous in comparison. Tell a tree that the instantaneous nature of human induced global warming is the same as nature's method

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period

2005-07-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
I expect the occupation to grow. Either the US will influence politics enough to have the appearance of home rule or if that fails then it will be more obvious they are under US control. At any rate something as valuable as all that oil will be commandeered and don't be surprised if the "conflict"

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period

2005-07-22 Thread Joe Street
It reminds me of a story about an old marial arts master who was challenged to a duel by an arrogant young bully. The old man could not avoid the conflict without losing face but rather than kill his opponent outright which he could have done, instead he skillfully kept out of range of the

RE: [Biofuel] methanol and airmodel engine fuel

2005-07-22 Thread James G. Branaum
Sorry I was not explicit enough and did give the wrong impression. I do not create anything, rather I mix up my own model airplane engine fuel from the discussed components. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rafal Szczesniak Sent: Friday,

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period (was, hurricane/tornado power)

2005-07-22 Thread r
I have found an wind turbine that I can use during a hurricane: the CET Air X Wind Turbine from Cetsolar.com. I'm certainly not going to harvest all of the hurricane's power (even if was possible) but it will be something that I can leave out in the wind and not worry about it in the event of

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period

2005-07-22 Thread Michael Redler
I thought this might be relevant.http://www.afterdowningstreet.org Mike 300 Events to Call for Bush's Impeachment over 'Downing Street' AllegationsSubmitted by davidswanson on Fri, 2005-07-22 08:22. Activism Abid AslamOneWorld US WASHINGTON, D.C., Jul 22

[Biofuel] The Rich Boys

2005-07-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12496 CorpWatch WORLD: The Rich Boys An ultra-secretive network rules independent oil trading. Its mentor: Marc Rich by Marcia Vickers, BusinessWeek July 14th, 2005 One brisk day last fall, globe-trotting oil executive Benjamin R. Pollner was leaving

[Biofuel] Science Under Siege

2005-07-22 Thread Keith Addison
21 Jul 2005 Rachel's #822: Science Under Siege Rachel's Environment Health News #822 http://www.rachel.org July 21, 2005 ^ ^ Science Under Seige By Tim Montague An ill wind is gusting through the

[Biofuel] IRAQ: Oil workers Defend Public Ownership

2005-07-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12498 CorpWatch: IRAQ: Oil workers Defend Public Ownership Iraqi workers, particularly the oil workers, are overwhelmingly opposed to any plans to privatise their country's oil industry. by Marcus Greville, Green Left July 13th, 2005 The US-led

[Biofuel] Oil Fuels Suriname-Guyana Border Clash

2005-07-22 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12478 CorpWatch: Oil Fuels Suriname-Guyana Border Clash by Anton Foek, Special to CorpWatch July 5th, 2005 cartoon by Khalil Bendib The humid heat covers you like a blanket when you step from the air-conditioned plane at Guyana's international

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period

2005-07-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Joe, Kirk, Hakan It reminds me of a story about an old marial arts master who was challenged to a duel by an arrogant young bully. The old man could not avoid the conflict without losing face but rather than kill his opponent outright which he could have done, instead he skillfully

RE: [Biofuel] Commercial Biodiesel

2005-07-22 Thread Lamar Lott
thanks for answering Todd's question. But after making Biodiesel lab-style numerous times with several feed stocks, I'm at an absolute loss as to how any of this could possibly cost a million dollars. Physically separating water, washing and drying tanks, numerous pumps and smaller tanks with

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period (was, hurricane/tornado power)

2005-07-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
Wasn't clear to me what the specs are but they did allude to 30mph full output. An 80+ wind is going to produce lots more force. Kirkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found an wind turbine that I can use during a hurricane: the CET Air X Wind Turbine from Cetsolar.com. I'm certainly not going to

[Biofuel] The War on Environmtalism

2005-07-22 Thread Michael Redler
There were times in our history that seem so incredible, that I sometimes struggle towrap my mind around it enough to take it pastthe text book or television. As the white house propaganda machine cranks out excuses for bypassing due process, stomping on the constitution and behaving like a

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period

2005-07-22 Thread capt3d
lol. no, you don't. when you have amassed that kind of firepower in a foreign country, the local political process almost becomes irrelevant to your presence. especially so when you've played things as masterfully as these guys have. they (the bush-neocon faction of the right, who

Re: [Biofuel] Commercial Biodiesel

2005-07-22 Thread Ray J
Did you look at the pictures on some of Keith's links?? the Pictures here..stuff look like millions of dollars to me... http://www.energea.at/images/leiste2_gross.gif http://www.energea.at/images/leiste5_gross.gif http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/img/1butler.jpg

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period

2005-07-22 Thread capt3d
In a message dated 7/22/05 12:43:52 PM, keith writes: There's something similar in The Art of War, to the effect that a great general wins his victories by never allowing a war to happen in the first place. War is a failure of strategy, you've already lost by that time and so has everyone

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period

2005-07-22 Thread capt3d
oops, forgot to include the materials extraction industries. -chris b. In a message dated 7/22/05 5:48:16 PM, chris b. writes: they (the bush-neocon faction of the right, who represent above all the interests of the energy industries and arms and military-related industries)

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period (was, hurricane/tornado power)

2005-07-22 Thread robert luis rabello
Kirk McLoren wrote: Wasn't clear to me what the specs are but they did allude to 30mph full output. An 80+ wind is going to produce lots more force. Power increases to the CUBE of wind velocity. Twice the windspeed = 8 times the power. A hurricane would likely shred an AIR turbine. I

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period

2005-07-22 Thread Michael Redler
I think what your thinking of is: "Subjugating the enemy's army without fighting is the true pinnacle of excellence" ...good point. Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/22/05 12:43:52 PM, keith writes:

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period (was, hurricane/tornado power)

2005-07-22 Thread capt3d
this *homebrew* wturbine reportedly withstands 60+ mph winds. i can't see how even stronger ones couldn't be made. i have my own idea of how it could be done. . . . -chris b. In a message dated 7/22/05 6:21:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Power increases to the CUBE of wind velocity.

[Biofuel] Commercial Biodiesel

2005-07-22 Thread Adrian Machado Van Deusen
You mentioned a couple of manufacturers of biodiesel plants, Each seeking continuous production and capacity for at least 10,000 gal day. Here's another: www.petrobio.com.br They are asking me 2 million REAIS (divide by 2.34 for the dollar value) for a 30,000 litre processing system that is very

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period (was, hurricane/tornado power)

2005-07-22 Thread robert luis rabello
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this *homebrew* wturbine reportedly withstands 60+ mph winds. i can't see how even stronger ones couldn't be made. i have my own idea of how it could be done. . . . Then I've misunderstood something, Chris. I followed the link and went to the wind turbine

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period (was, hurricane/tornado power)

2005-07-22 Thread capt3d
robert, that's cool as hayil! thanks for passing that along. -chris b. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

RE: [Biofuel] Commercial Biodiesel

2005-07-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Lamar thanks for answering Todd's question. But after making Biodiesel lab-style numerous times with several feed stocks, I'm at an absolute loss as to how any of this could possibly cost a million dollars. Physically separating water, washing and drying tanks, numerous pumps and smaller

Re: [Biofuel] Payback Period

2005-07-22 Thread Keith Addison
I think what your thinking of is: Subjugating the enemy's army without fighting is the true pinnacle of excellence Thankyou Michael. 'Tis long since I read it, though I have it here, and also on my hard disk. I should have looked it up. Best wishes Keith ...good point. Mike [EMAIL