Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Hakan Falk
Thanks for saving me the time. It is a quite local problem and it is a bit more people in this world, who cannot even grasp the definition red/blue, if is not a pure color issue. It is however quite interesting to read about US color problem and it is a clear improvement, because it is not

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Nancy Canning
Good stewardship, responsibility, and justifications of why we can't be stewards, and be responsible seem to go together. Nobody wants to be responsible, and we hide so well behind our justifications. After all..it's a woman's body, it's my car that needs fuel, it's my building that needs the

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Hakan Falk
Nancy, Much of what you are saying have a majority following by the world population, but you are simplifying the issues. This in the name of a God that only have a relatively small following. Fortunately, the majority of the Gods or teachings without a God, do adhere to and preach your

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread bob allen
Although the snail argument is a straw man, it's even simpler: diversity trumps all, at least in a sustainable ecosystem. But a snail trumps a person? Too simply I think. -K */bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Nancy Canning wrote: I agree with you Gustl. Yet, I am amazed and

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Tom Irwin
Greetings All, I would like things to be as black and white as you have written. Unfortunately I see many areas that are gray. At what point in time is a childs responsible for their actions. Many laws say 18 years old. What do ou do in the case of children having children? What is your

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
With love and compassion. Anything less will fail. -KTom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings All, I would like things to be as black and white as you have written. Unfortunately I see many areas that are gray. At what point in time is a childs responsible for their actions. Many laws say

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Dale Seto
This is a verywise and informed comment that Keith made, and I totally agree. I hope someday that the UN will ingrain and apply four basic rights for every human on this planet, and they are; 1) access to food 2) access to clean water 3) access to shelter 4) personal security I also beleive that

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Michael Redler
Tom, In my opinion, this speaks to a bigger issue. We already know that, by conventional thinking, "civilized" societies are supposed to be bound to the laws of the land - laws created by democratically elected governments. The idea is to protect the common good, promote harmony and prevent

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Nancy I'm amused that you put sex in the same category as alcoholism. Good stewardship, responsibility, and justifications of why we can't be stewards, and be responsible seem to go together. Nobody wants to be responsible, and we hide so well behind our justifications. Nothing new in

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread capt3d
In a message dated 8/2/05 2:27:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lets take the good old drunk. . .He is ultimately responsible for his actions. . .The alcoholic wants instant gratification and finds alcohol his tool. this perspective is meaningless and stupid. there are 'drunks', as you like

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Hakan Falk
Dale, It is difficult and 2% is a very high value. European countries have a 1 % goal and several of them give around 0.8% of GDP. For most European countries, it is a true 0.8% with little hooks, like that they have to spend the money in purchases from the donor Country. US give 0.2% of

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Appal Energy
Ms. Canning, I'm not going to discredit the better part of the spirit in which your words are written. Responsibility, in all its forms, is something that has never been taught fully to each generation. On the other hand, responsibility cannot be fully taught. It must be learned. And that

[Biofuel] RE: Phenolphthalein solution

2005-08-02 Thread Probst, Peter
Thanks to all who provided sources and altarnatives for the phenolphthalein! Now I can start using the 75+ gallons of WVO that's been sitting around my garage. Pete ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Joe Street
God has a good solution for sex, it's called abstinence and marriage. OMG that's what happened to my life! God did it. Why is GOD such a devil?? lol ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread capt3d
hakan, i'm so glad you saved that document. i was not able to catch the hearing, but fortunately a few u.s. media outlets did give fairly generous coverage. galloway was just awesome; blistering oratory. he tossed them around like a rabid dog would kittens. hopefully i can find the plug-in

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Michael Redler
...on a similar subject: Subject: [CampusAntiwarNetwork] Activists Shut Down Recruiting Center in Support of GI Resister Kevin Benderman!Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 02:48:46 EDT"The power of speaking out was proven again Thursday afternoon whenabout three dozen peace activists gathered at the Oakland

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Dale, welcome This is a very wise and informed comment that Keith made, and I totally agree. Why thankyou! :-) I hope someday that the UN will ingrain and apply four basic rights for every human on this planet, and they are; 1) access to food 2) access to clean water 3) access to

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
So much for Go forth and multiply. --KirkJoe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God has a good solution for sex, it's called abstinence and marriage. OMG that's what happened to my life! God did it.Why is GOD such a devil??lol___Biofuel mailing

[Biofuel] sulphuric (sulfuric) acid in UK

2005-08-02 Thread justin
Hi, I've successfully made biodiesel with the single stage method and would like to a make a test batch using the foolproof method. I have found methanol but am having trouble finding 95% sulphuric acid - I can only get hold of dilute - 40 - 50% sulphuric acid. Does anybody have a supplier

[Biofuel] Alien intelligence

2005-08-02 Thread Brian Rodgers
Dear Biofuels group. I enjoy reading what is written here more than anything I could have imagined. I see myself as a chronicler more than a writer as I am quite bereft of a classic education. I guess I can say that nothing gives me instant gratification more than writing. I have grown my

Re: Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-02 Thread Fred Finch
God has a good solution for sex, it's called abstinence and marriage. It looks like I got it backwards, I got married then there was no sex. I guess I am going to Hell? fred On 8/2/05, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: God has a good solution for sex, it's called abstinence and

[Biofuel] Hey! Let's outsource the pres...

2005-08-02 Thread bmolloy
Hi All, Thanks forhelp in sourcing background material for the Rapture. Mindstill boggling so I sought somelight relief after reading the stuff. Here t'is. Regards, Bob The Perfect Solution! Washington D.C. . -- Congress today announced that the office of President of the United States

RE: [Biofuel] sulphuric (sulfuric) acid in UK

2005-08-02 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
You might try an industrial battery co. I purchased a battery from the U.K. last year and it is hotter than hell. My local battery man got me some 1800 and told me to be very cautious with it. It has a tendency to almost explode when added to water. So far I havent found the nuts to try

RE: [Biofuel] RE: Phenolphthalein solution

2005-08-02 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
May be there is some help for me out there. I have made lots and lots of test batches. Most of them bad not good. One border line. And one 15 gal batch with fairly good results. I have used all the options given for titration in the J.T. Forever. Test strips work but after introducing it to the

RE: [Biofuel] Phenolphthalein solution

2005-08-02 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Don't try it they conceder it explosive and I shouldn't need to say what that would make you in the eyes of the feds. But I think fed ex will ship if packaged the right way .try fed ex .com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Mark L.

[Biofuel] Fw: [SANET-MG] seeds of despair

2005-08-02 Thread balaji
Hello all, Fwd. from Sanet-MG : Seeds of despair indeed. And a bitter harvest they will surely yield. Seed registration is the wolf in sheep's clothing inasmuch as it pretends to uphold quality standards while its hidden agenda is to raise the bar for the small farmer, making it impossible for

Re: [Biofuel] Hey! Let's outsource the pres...

2005-08-02 Thread robert luis rabello
bmolloy wrote: Hi All, Thanks for help in sourcing background material for the Rapture. You're welcome! Mind still boggling so I sought some light relief after reading the stuff. If you're confused by Dispensationalism, you're not alone. Here t'is. The

Re: [Biofuel] sulphuric (sulfuric) acid in UK

2005-08-02 Thread Doug Younker
There are some basic rules for handling and mixing acid, can anyone point to a tutorial of FAQ on the web, someon can point us to? The only thing I recall is you do not add water to acid (violent reaction), you add acid to water. Your battery man told you the opposite so my recollection may be

Re: [Biofuel] Cornell on ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen energyefficiencies

2005-08-02 Thread balaji
Hello Doug, Keith, - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cornell on ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen energyefficiencies In the article, Pimentel is shown pumping gas, most

Re: [Biofuel] Cornell on ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen energyefficiencies

2005-08-02 Thread John Hayes
There is also substantial work iniitiated by the Russians and Ukrainians (and rarely reported in the West until recently) of an abyssal, abiogenic origin of petroleum, which postulates a co-eval formation of primordial petroleum with earth about 4.5 bollion years back,much earlier than the

RE: [Biofuel] sulphuric (sulfuric) acid in UK

2005-08-02 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
No my battery man told me not to add water to the acid but to add the acid to the water yet he also explained that there was still a violent reaction when using sulfuric acid of this strength. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Younker

RE: [Biofuel] RE: Phenolphthalein solution

2005-08-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Derick May be there is some help for me out there. I have made lots and lots of test batches. Most of them bad not good. One border line. And one 15 gal batch with fairly good results. I have used all the options given for titration in the J.T. Forever. Test strips work ... poorly, if at

Re: [Biofuel] Hey! Let's outsource the pres...

2005-08-02 Thread capt3d
hmmm, perhaps you could somehow arrange to have the u.s. embassy or consulate as your official address of residence. :) -chris b. In a message dated 8/2/05 6:14:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: no one can hold the office of President who is not American born, at least 35 years of age, AND a