Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling

2005-08-20 Thread Bede
I remember seeing some one in china converting plastic into petrol. if you put tin cans in a fire it burns off the zinc anti rust coatings Some places will how ever recycle cans. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Sent: Saturday, August

Re: [Biofuel] Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate)

2005-08-20 Thread bob allen
Keith Addison wrote: snip So would it be correct to say there's no such thing as methoxide fumes? practically speaking, yes. -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman

[Biofuel] (Biofuel) First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-20 Thread Rumen Slavov
Dear Friends, As an electrician I wold propose to use a HV transformer for neon lighting /you can see a lot of it over allmost any restorant entrance/ and a simple HV diodes to make HV into DC. The transformer supply 3000 to 5000 volts.To avoid forming an ark,the electrodes must be kept apart

[Biofuel] Biomass to Biodiesel

2005-08-20 Thread Jeffrey Tan
Dear all, I came across an article regarding an (East) Europe or (old) Rusia company that has been using biomass (wood chippings if not mistaken) for producing Biodiesel for as far as they can remember. Does anyone know the name and location of this company, as I cannot remember where I

Re: [Biofuel] Biomass to Biodiesel

2005-08-20 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Jeff and All, I read that in the archives or there is a link there. Try there. Tom Irwin From: Jeffrey Tan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 03:52:03 -0300Subject: [Biofuel] Biomass to BiodieselDear all,I came across an article regarding an

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel) First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-20 Thread des
Rumen Slavov wrote: Dear Friends, As an electrician I wold propose to use a HV transformer for neon lighting /you can see a lot of it over allmost any restorant entrance/ and a simple HV diodes to make HV into DC. The transformer supply 3000 to 5000 volts.To avoid

[Biofuel] Chemical engineer's letter

2005-08-20 Thread marilyn
HELP! How can I respond to the negative email below? It's from a chemical engineer friend researching ethanol from cellulose. I sent him some info from this list to help his research, and was surprised by the anger. Anyone have specific things I can say in response? The email: Hi Marilyn

Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling

2005-08-20 Thread Rich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. You sure didn't look very hard.

Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling

2005-08-20 Thread Rich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. You sure didn't look very hard.

Re: [Biofuel] Chemical engineer's letter

2005-08-20 Thread Manick Harris
Hello marilyn, Re:Processing of biomass Biomass molassesused to sell in India for $10 per tonne. It is very easy to ferment it to alcohol and Irigged up a batch reactor which ran for 6 m before I terminated the runs arbitrarily. The alc is easily rectified to 90% vie fractional distllation which

[Biofuel] Biodiesel Fuel Processing in Michigan??

2005-08-20 Thread ardis streeter
Just a quick question,, Is there anyone else in Michigan that is getting ready to make or is making biodiesl fuel from used cooking oil?I am getting close to having my processor done and would like to touch base with someone closer to home to share there ideas with me, and mine with them.Not to

Re: [Biofuel] Chemical engineer's letter

2005-08-20 Thread Andy Karpay
A few years ago I was working in alternate energy as a (mechanical) engineer. We tried many different sources to extract energy from waste tires (very high BTU) to pig manure to water. Converting Biomass to extract energy is not impossible, but can get expensive. Your 'friend' seems a bit

Re: [Biofuel] Chemical engineer's letter

2005-08-20 Thread Dale Volzka
Hey- I for one didn't percieve it as angry. It did, however, demonstrate a perception of reality that I don't particularly like either. It may not be the final destination that makes the trip enlightening.2gms worth- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling

2005-08-20 Thread Keith Addison
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. You sure didn't look very hard.

Re: [Biofuel] Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate)

2005-08-20 Thread Keith Addison
Keith Addison wrote: snip So would it be correct to say there's no such thing as methoxide fumes? practically speaking, yes. Thankyou Bob! :-) Regards Keith -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard

Re: [Biofuel] Chemical engineer's letter

2005-08-20 Thread capt3d
i gave this site a quick browse. looks to me a lot like a portal for bogus think-tank "science". andy wrote: I have followed this project for a fewyears, and it looks like they are doing it.http://www.cfact.org/site/view_article.asp?idCategory=7idarticle=459 -chris b.

[Biofuel] without court authority

2005-08-20 Thread Kirk McLoren
So why is mail in electronic form not accorded the guarantees given paper? --Kirk - Duuk2k2 writes "The Canadian federal cabinet will review [0]newlegislation this fall that would give police and security agencies vastpowers to begin surveillance of the

Re: [Biofuel] Chemical engineer's letter

2005-08-20 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Bob and all Some scepticism is in order, but not blindness. Some scepticism: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg45810.html [Biofuel] 'Changing World Technologies' Plan to Turn Garbage into Oil http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg45851.html

Re: [Biofuel] Chemical engineer's letter

2005-08-20 Thread Bob Clark
Hi Marilyn Hi all; It sounds like your friend is simply a non-believer in the potentials and realities of bio-mass conversion to fuel?!? I am a newcomer to this discussion list but I would suggest you start by referring your friend to Arkenol. If it's all a myth, then they have certainly

Re: [Biofuel] FW: a problem

2005-08-20 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 7:33 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: RE: [Biofuel] FW: a problem Hi keith Sorry to be a pain. Do you think I could use the solid I had left in

Re: [Biofuel] Chemical engineer's letter

2005-08-20 Thread capt3d
marilyn, i guess i wasn't paying close attention the first time around, but clearly your freind is not a non-beleiver, as someone suggested. otherwise he wouldn't be researching ethanol from cellulose. the surliness of his email seems directed at the biomass sector's equivalent of snake oil