Re: [Biofuel] What?

2005-12-20 Thread Mike Weaver
For some reason your server is probably bouncing email. Do you have access to the maillog? You can also check your host's uptime at www.netcraft.com. After a certain number of bounces most list serv programs will kick you off. mark manchester wrote: Very puzzling, My server says no, not a

Re: [Biofuel] What?

2005-12-20 Thread Keith Addison
For some reason your server is probably bouncing email. Do you have access to the maillog? You can also check your host's uptime at www.netcraft.com. After a certain number of bounces most list serv programs will kick you off. Quite right Mike. This is what listadmin's message on bounce

[Biofuel] Alternative way of producing bd (using electric)

2005-12-20 Thread Teoman Naskali
Some time ago ther was a thread about producing bd in an alternative way, using electricity. Very high voltages were necessary. I recently saw one of those electric zapper thingies. The ones used for self protetction. Handheld device that gives 200.000 volts. And it operates on 2 x 9V

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative way of producing bd (using electric)

2005-12-20 Thread bob allen
Howdy Teoman, looking back in the archives I find the link: http://tinyurl.com/8hjv7 this is to a patent application, not a patent. Even if the process is patented, does that mean that the patent office has checked out the process and confirms that it actually works as described, or simply

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative way of producing bd (using electric)

2005-12-20 Thread Joe Street
Hi Teoman, and Bob; If this process eventually works it will require not just high voltage but current as well, something like 300 mA at 2Kv. That, you won't get from a 9v battery. I have temporarily suspended my work on the alternative process. Initial tests were not too inspiring. This does

[Biofuel] tree power? and other stuff

2005-12-20 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
Hi all, This could be neat. These people have supposedly tapped usable power from a tree. It is not all that out of the ordinary to detect small voltages and milliamps from a tree. I did the nail in the bark and the copper tube in the ground set up years ago when I was a child. I didn't have an

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative way of producing bd (using electric)

2005-12-20 Thread David Miller
bob allen wrote: Howdy Teoman, looking back in the archives I find the link: http://tinyurl.com/8hjv7 this is to a patent application, not a patent. Even if the process is patented, does that mean that the patent office has checked out the process and confirms that it actually works as

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative way of producing bd (using electric)

2005-12-20 Thread Zeke Yewdall
For an interesting read on some of the bizarre twists patent law takes, search for blackberry patent in google news. It seems that althought NTP never actually built the equipment for their patent, Blackberry did (to great financial reward), without buying the patent rights from NTP. If you read

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative way of producing bd (using electric)

2005-12-20 Thread Mike Weaver
HAY David then pills you sold me dont werk MIKE David Miller wrote: bob allen wrote: Howdy Teoman, looking back in the archives I find the link: http://tinyurl.com/8hjv7 this is to a patent application, not a patent. Even if the process is patented, does that mean that the patent

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative way of producing bd (using electric)

2005-12-20 Thread dwoodard
As far as I know, patent offices do not check whether inventions work or not or have merit. They are solely interested in whether the invention embodies a new, non-trivial (obvious to one skilled in the art in question) idea or concept. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Tue, 20

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative way of producing bd (using electric)

2005-12-20 Thread Joe Street
Well AFAIK it costs money to file patents and you would have to have a lot of it to play games with bogus patents but who knows? It was relatively painless for me to try a few tests but unless I missed something it's not as simple as it sounds. I want to do some corona experiments but I have

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative way of producing bd (using electric)

2005-12-20 Thread David Miller
Mike Weaver wrote: HAY David then pills you sold me dont werk MIKE Mike, like I told you, you have to take them longer. At least 30 days, and if you miss a day you have to start all over. You obviously missed a day, so I'll be expecting your next order right away! --- David David