Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?

2007-01-29 Thread David Kramer
A genuine religion of peace cannot have extremists. A genuine religion of peace would not have any passages in its scriptures that could be construed as sanctioning or calling for violence. I didn't think it needed to be spelled out explicitly; I was obviously mistaken. Islam, Christianity and

[Biofuel] LIBERTY...USE IT OR LOSE IT...REJECT REAL ID

2007-01-29 Thread MK DuPree
It's the birthday of writer and politician Thomas Paine, (books by this author) born in Thetford, England (1737). With his anonymously published pamphlet Common Sense, in 1776, he helped start the American Revolution, even though he'd only been living in America for a little more than a year.

Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?

2007-01-29 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Robert and All ; No. Christians are people who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Either Jesus was who he claimed to be, or he was a raving lunatic. You can't just say: He was a nice guy and a wise teacher while ignoring his other claims about himself. For me this is a

Re: [Biofuel] Sharing Sustainable Solutions

2007-01-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Frank I was wondering why Journey to Forever wasn't included amongst their links. I didn't check, but I'm not surprised. I don't get it with this guy. He seems to have eradicated any potential usefulness from that page at his site, so why bother to have it at all? It used to have the

Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol Boom Cheers Grain Farmers, Pinches Food Makers

2007-01-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Zeke Well, less meat would probably be a good idea for the average american, but meat can be had from animals that don't eat corn. It's sort of two different issues, that because of our factory farming structure, get treated like one. And actually, according to The Omivoire's Dilemma, how

Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?

2007-01-29 Thread Keith Addison
David, haven't you embarrassed yourself enough already without this continuing display of selective snipping and cheap hits that miss? Backpedalling is not the same as covering your trail, especially not on a mailing list (you can't cover your trail on a mailing list), and it has the

[Biofuel] An Urgent Call To Action To Protect Creation

2007-01-29 Thread Keith Addison
Press release: http://chge.med.harvard.edu/media/releases/documents/press_release.pdf Call to Action statement: http://chge.med.harvard.edu/media/releases/documents/call_to_action.pdf Resources: http://chge.med.harvard.edu/media/releases/jan_17.html From: Center for Health and the Global

Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?

2007-01-29 Thread Keith Addison
Keith...thank you. Mike DuPree You're most welcome Mike (though I'd much rather have had a good discussion). Best Keith - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Can these

Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?

2007-01-29 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Robert, Sunday, 28 January, 2007, 14:18:41, you wrote: rabr David Kramer wrote: ...snip... Pointing out that religious claims are not supported by any evidence is not ridicule, it's a statement of fact. rabr Pointing out that atheism is just a substitution of one belief rabr system

Re: [Biofuel] Sharing Sustainable Solutions

2007-01-29 Thread Frank Navarrete
Hi Keith, Oh well. The more the merrier I suppose, never mind how (which is also how some people feel when bits of their website get ripped of and sold at eBay) I respect your big picture view of things and I think that it is required of us in order to compensate for the smallness of many (if

[Biofuel] Inner Space

2007-01-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
Inner Space Darwin based his theory of evolution on the assumption that cells were simple blobs of protoplasm. As this short video demonstrates, they are anything but and, as such, a good argument of why evolution is impossible as a viable theory (though not as a matter of very blind faith,

Re: [Biofuel] [biofuel] Solar Cell Needed to power up remote water pumps

2007-01-29 Thread Joe Street
Why not just build a system to meet the specs? J Phillip Wolfe wrote: Readers - I believe my inquiry qualifies for your biofuel list as I need info on solar cells. Water Conservation Project Needs Solar Cells - If you know of any small solar cell with battery storage please send. I'm

Re: [Biofuel] Sharing Sustainable Solutions

2007-01-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Keith, Oh well. The more the merrier I suppose, never mind how (which is also how some people feel when bits of their website get ripped of and sold at eBay) I respect your big picture view of things and I think that it is required of us in order to compensate for the smallness of many (if

[Biofuel] Food Sovereignty

2007-01-29 Thread Frank Navarrete
From Grain http://www.grain.org/seedling/?id=456 Nyéléni – for food sovereignty *GRAIN* *Food Sovereignty is the right of peoples, communities, and countries to define their own agricultural, pastoral, labour, fishing, food and land policies which are ecologically, socially, economically and

[Biofuel] Waking up and Catching Up-- from The Economist, Jan.25/07

2007-01-29 Thread Jesse Frayne
From the print edition, sorry I don't have the link. Jesse Waking up and catching up Jan 25th 2007 | AUSTIN, CHICAGO, LOS ANGELES AND WASHINGTON, DC From The Economist print edition Belatedly, and for many reasons, America is embracing environmentalism Getty Images WHEN Jim Webb, the new

[Biofuel] was... Solar Cell Needed to power up remote water pumps

2007-01-29 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
It's quite simple to set up your own panel setup for what you require. You first need to calculate your daily loads and duty cycles of your equipment. ie. your sensor circuitry takes say, for example, 2.5 amps when operating and switches on for 5 periods of 30 minutes each. The total of the

[Biofuel] Israel might be held accountable (a little) for cluster bombs?

2007-01-29 Thread Paul Webber
They will probably just get a slap on the wrist, but thats better than nothing. And maybe, just maybe, the US might think twice before selling weapons to Israel. -paul http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/2/hi/middle_east/6310945.stm Israel 'broke US arms deal terms' *Israel probably violated the

Re: [Biofuel] [biofuel] Solar Cell Needed to power up remote water pumps

2007-01-29 Thread Pat Delany
Phillip Sorry, I can't help with your problem but maybe you will know some who would be interested in my MultiMachine project. The MultiMachine, an open source, all purpose machine tool that I originally designed and built and that is now supported by an over 2700 member newsgroup, can be built

Re: [Biofuel] I.D. Cards and Rifers

2007-01-29 Thread Addison Griffith
Mike and D this is just the tip of the iceberg of what our government is doing to undermine our country and the US citizens. I have been sitting here and reading the posts of yours and Keith's, Mike W,Kirk Jason just to name a few. Now it has been brought to my attention concerning

[Biofuel] energy story at oildrum

2007-01-29 Thread Kirk McLoren
++ | On Electricity (Generation)| | from the looking-at-tomorrow dept. | | posted by Hemos on Monday January 29, @10:54 (Power) | |

Re: [Biofuel] Inner Space

2007-01-29 Thread Jason Katie
there are traces and hints that suggest the process nodes inside a cell (mitochondria in specific, possibly others) are not parts of the original cell, but symbiotes that have been absorbed into the genetic program due to their huge benefit to the host cell. i doubt evolution is impossible, but

Re: [Biofuel] Inner Space

2007-01-29 Thread Doug Younker
Not that I'm saying I would fully comprehend any explanation, but it would been nice to be informed what it was that I was viewing. Was this a depiction of something that was actually observed, or an artist's rendering of what is believed to be taking place? While it was visually stunning,