Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread Appal Energy
because i can drive like a reasonable adult and i know the limits of my SUV. That's what everyone says. But the death tolls keep climbing. There must be an error in that sort of logic somewhere or there would be far fewer grave markers. yea yea i know you all hate my guts now (LOL Sorry.

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread Appal Energy
s 15,000 miles per year in a hybrid or me? - Original Message - From: Appal Energy<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing "Evil?" Who sa

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-14 Thread Appal Energy
Careless. Unaware. Insensitive. Self-centered. Un-informed. Selfish. Uh-huh. And probably another two dozen similar adjectives. My full size diesel Chevy 4x4 trucks average 20 and 24 mpg. And just how many of those average 12,000 miles per annum require the use of a heavy duty farm truck?

Re: [Biofuel] Gasoline Prices

2005-04-12 Thread Appal Energy
re. Would you like me to supply some links? Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Stephan, I think you have to honestly ask what agriculture and/or native flora and fauna on the islands would be displaced by instituting palm mono-culture for liquid fuel production. A safe bet is that m

Re: [Biofuel] Gasoline Prices

2005-04-07 Thread Appal Energy
I think you have to honestly ask what agriculture and/or native flora and fauna on the islands would be displaced by instituting palm mono-culture for liquid fuel production. A safe bet is that many Hawaiians feel that their limitted acreage might be better served in ways other than usurpin

Re: [Biofuel] Oil prices surge to new records

2005-04-02 Thread Appal Energy
Energy efficiency proponents and conservationists have been pointing to these occurences for three decades now. They even wrote the book(s) as to what would happen and how to address/prevent it. And what was the snotty remark Dick Cheney said after thirty years, back in May of 2001? "Cons

Re: [Biofuel] liquid glycerine

2005-03-30 Thread Appal Energy
It seems to me that you produced some soap that time. All base processing creates soap. What everyone keeps referring to as "glycerine" settling out of a transesterification (base) reaction is for the most part soap, diluted with methanol and glycerol. The volume of glycerol per liter of

Re: [Biofuel] Freezing

2005-03-26 Thread Appal Energy
biodiesel in the summer and then switch to regular diesel in the winter. The only perfectly safe method is to use a two tank system. Other than that, you'll have to work with anti-gel additives and pulling the cream off your fuel, saving the higher gel point esters for summer and using the l

Re: [Biofuel] A quest to ruin the Earth

2005-03-26 Thread Appal Energy
Oh. So oil is good for animals? Perhaps someone forgot to tell all the fish and other wildlife in Prince William Sound. Sorry Paul. Until you've walked some of the old drilling sights in Alaska and seen how the promises of "enviornmentally safe" quickly unraveled or lived at the end of

[Biofuel] No Blood on Our Hands

2005-03-26 Thread Appal Energy
Jesus Bomb?" and "What Would Jesus Drive (Ride)?" http://www.tompaine.com/articles/no_blood_on_our_hands.php No Blood On Our Hands Sister Dianna Ortiz March 25, 2005 Good Friday brings Christians once again to the darkest day of the year, the torture and death of Jesus. For those of us who are

Re: [Biofuel] wind powered water pumps

2005-03-24 Thread Appal Energy
wind-powered, turbine motor which includes a reciprocating mechanism to derive the pump action. Usually the turbine fan is 6 - 10 feet in diameter and the tower is in the range of 40-50 feet tall. Short of finding a "how to" book, your best bet is to order a repair manual for something like

Re: [Biofuel] Problems with the Biofuel list

2005-03-22 Thread Appal Energy
- Original Message - From: "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Problems with the Biofuel list ??? What problems? Greg H. - Original Message - From: "Martin Klingensmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Biofuel] Global Bully Goes to Guatemala

2005-03-19 Thread Appal Energy
A bully is someone who hurts, frightens or tyrannizes over someone who is weaker. One who knows that that death is the immanent consequence of his or her bullying is called a premeditated murderer. And those who acquiesce to the tactics of the bully are complicit in the premeditation and

[Biofuel] Misrepresenting the science of mercury pollution

2005-03-14 Thread Appal Energy
Misrepresenting the science of mercury pollution isn't enough for Bush & Co. They've got to fake the economics, too. By Chris Mooney Web Exclusive: 03.14.05 On matters of environmental protection and regulation, free-market conservatives have two chief principles to which they claim to adhere: "

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms ... and vegetarians

2005-03-11 Thread Appal Energy
agribusiness! As soon as you start to use soy as a main protein, you are supporting factory farming, big time. There is such a thing as an organic soy market. As for this: One other fallacy, that meat eating animals eat food that humans could somehow use. Should one presume that what you

[Biofuel] Re: Biodiesel wash water

2005-03-11 Thread Appal Energy
ation. Seems like the easiest is often the last recognized... Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Biodiesel wash water List: The following is in resp

[Biofuel] Re: Biodiesel wash water

2005-03-10 Thread Appal Energy
me quite proficient at back titrating rather quickly. I suppose this might seem a trifle involved, but not terribly so once the basics are grasped and you've cracked the nut once or twice. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Ahab" To: "'Appal Energy

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-10 Thread Appal Energy
CHICKENs' eggs :-)) She's ovo-vegetarian. Lacto-ovo if she also consumes milk. Not vegetarian at all if she eats fish. Kind of a contradictary identifiers altogether though. One would think that "vegetarian" is pretty straight forward. Guess not. Vegan is no animal products whatsoever, inc

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread Appal Energy
the sight of all those animals just bulldozed into trenches is to me the epitomy of horrible waste. How much better if they could have been rendered to biodiesel. How much better if they were never amassed in such concentrations in the first place and the destruction was eliminated due to the

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread Appal Energy
What I find rather interesting in the same realm of discussion is when it revolves around Meat vs Veggie vs Animal Rights vs Factory Farming vs Cities. Goats and sheep can keep keep fallow land manicured extremely well, free of thistle and other undesireables, all the while beating vegetabl

[Biofuel] Oil Briefly Rises Above $55 and Seems Likely to Stay High

2005-03-08 Thread Appal Energy
"How high is the oil Momma? 55 Dollars and Risin'. How high is the oil Poppa? 80 Dollars and Risin'." Oil Briefly Rises Above $55 and Seems Likely to Stay High By JAD MOUAWAD Published: March 4, 2005 Oil prices briefly rose a

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-08 Thread Appal Energy
I don't call myself an animal lover. I do find I have great respect for them as individuals. Come on girl. Admit it. Yes you are :-) and your existance would be much poorer without them, as would everyone's. Most just don't realize it. Might you not need to let the professional facade s

Re: [Biofuel] Latest Consumer Reports

2005-03-06 Thread Appal Energy
West at 55mph. Who hasn't? And what makes you think something such as this is so obvious? - Original Message - From: "Chris & Chuck McGuire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Latest Consumer Reports Obviously

Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act

2005-03-06 Thread Appal Energy
Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act good luck with this. i'm done. rbury - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertisin

Re: [Biofuel] A problem with WVO

2005-03-06 Thread Appal Energy
Any suggestions ? Conduct a series of bracket titrations and/or move towards the acid/base process. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:54 AM Subject: [Biofuel] A problem with WVO Hello brothe

Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act

2005-03-05 Thread Appal Energy
nd you'd be right. But even if they do keep right, which they don't, they can still seriously jam things up because of the highspeed onramps. Hitting the end of a ramp at 75 so you can merge safey only to hit the brakes because of the guy in front of you is doing 55 is no fun at all.

Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act

2005-03-05 Thread Appal Energy
on the highway. i expected mileage to be better with the eurovan. it isn't, but i'm still not displeased with the purchase. it offers a diversity of amenities unavailable in any other vehicle currently being produced (oh i forgot, VW no longer imports it to the U.S.) how about that al

Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act

2005-03-04 Thread Appal Energy
t be one of those whinners and fools todd speaks of. i'd be curious what other folks on the list get for strickly 'in city' driving. we've gotten as low as 13mpg and average closer to 15. rbury - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act

2005-03-04 Thread Appal Energy
ortional to the mass of any given lead foot. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "John Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act Appal Energy wrote: Rati

Re: [Biofuel] US Fuel Efficiency Truth-in-Advertising Act

2005-03-04 Thread Appal Energy
under "real world" driving conditions and come to the same conclusion as many motorists - the actual miles per gallon achieved during the daily use of a vehicle generally falls well short of Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimates. snip > The current EPA tests were established in the

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel Wicks

2005-03-03 Thread Appal Energy
The wick's fiber would have to have some property that actually pulls the fuel towards it, as biodiesel is too viscous by itself to travel /wick beyond approximately one inch in height above the fuel level when using a standard cotton braid. They've got 1" proto wick on hand and are expecting 1

[Biofuel] "For the Sake of our Children" or "How the Bush Doctrine of Fascism is Disassembling a Nation"

2005-02-25 Thread Appal Energy
By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. EarthLight Magazine #52, Winter 2005 www.earthlight.org/2005/essay52_kennedy_pff.htm Editor's Introduction: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has a passionate desire for a sustainable future. The economic, the political, and the personal worlds are all part of this evolving v

Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-19 Thread Appal Energy
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution Michael Redler wrote: homey [h#601;#650;mi:]Aadjective1 homelike, homely, homey, homy having a feeling of home; cozy and comfortable; "the homely everyday atmosphere"; "a homey little inn" Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re[4]: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution - [OT] = very yes

2005-02-19 Thread Appal Energy
ties; a friend, bro. See "homes." - Original Message - From: "B. Nostrand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Re[4]: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution - [OT] = very yes actually, i'm guessing, but i thought the reference was

Re: Re[4]: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-18 Thread Appal Energy
t: Friday, February 18, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Re[4]: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution homey [h#601;#650;mi:]Aadjective1 homelike, homely, homey, homy having a feeling of home; cozy and comfortable; "the homely everyday atmosphere"; "a homey little inn" Appal Energy <

Re: Re[4]: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-18 Thread Appal Energy
d/or your apparent umbrage is certainly not warranted. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Gustl Steiner-Zehender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: Re[4]: [Biofuel] Ou

Re: Re[4]: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-18 Thread Appal Energy
Better to build bridges than to grind axes. It takes a sharp axe to build a bridge. And better to keep the edge than to let others dull it into disrepair with their abuse. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Gustl Steiner-Zehender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DHAJOGLO" <[EMAI

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-18 Thread Appal Energy
s "adherance." What could be said is that these men may have been spiritually inclined or perhaps "adherant," but by definition it's a far reach to declare that they were "religious." Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Gustl Steiner-Z

Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-16 Thread Appal Energy
author would prefer. First, if the author is going to give references, how about not giving an entire littany of books. And notice the source of the littany no less. No bias or bent there, eh? Generally page and paragraph are sufficient. Leave it to those who would like to further indoctrinate

Re: [Biofuel] Glycerin soap making

2005-02-16 Thread Appal Energy
Glycerol is an alcohol. Fats/oils are required to make soap. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerin soap making can some glycerin be ad

Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-15 Thread Appal Energy
I find your response rather amusing but all too much a double standard.. First of all, if the archives are any indicator, you spend a great deal of time bashing your favorite sects du jour. Second of all, Ken Provost didn't bash christians. He did make note of the type of "christians" who c

Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-15 Thread Appal Energy
I don't think you'd find it as false a claim as you might think if you apply the generally accepted, contemporary, rough translation of "religion" and "religious" to the matter. Even if you strictly applied the definitions found in Websters, you would quickly see that they don't stick very we

Re: [Biofuel] Biorefinary ,Big blues and Globalization

2005-02-15 Thread Appal Energy
earingen Dear Mr. Swearingen: many, many thanks for your prompt replay and valuable information. Yes, I agree with you... in my case I am willing to pay the fair price for pertinent plans. By the way, my PC ought to have a problem since can not Full-size image. Yours truly, Francisco J. Burgos -

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Test batch no. 2

2005-02-15 Thread Appal Energy
"Fluff" at the interphase layer of water and biodiesel upon the first wash stage isn't exactly what you want to see. If the reaction has gone to completion, you have let the fuel/glyc-cocktail set overnight or perhaps 24 hours and you didn't transfer any of the glyc cocktail into your wash, t

Re: [Biofuel] BioD test batches

2005-02-15 Thread Appal Energy
Who says you're not? Perhaps you're not waiting long enough? The stuff that's making your biodiesel hazy is just micro-amounts of what quickly settled out in the glyc cocktail layer. Neither hazyiness or clarity are indicators of anything more than that. Also, no need to run at the high tem

Re: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution

2005-02-15 Thread Appal Energy
Our Godless Constitution by BROOKE ALLEN [from the February 21, 2005 issue] - Original Message - From: "knoton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Our Godless Constitution Our Godless Constitution by BROOKE ALLEN

Re: [Biofuel] Biorefinary ,Big blues and Globalization

2005-02-15 Thread Appal Energy
People who have detailed plans for biorefineries in their possession have either paid for their copies (which probably means they legally aren't allowed to distribute them beyond their own use) or have sweated bullets and watched their bank account dwindle developing and having them drawn out

Re: [Biofuel] Soap

2005-02-13 Thread Appal Energy
Some definitions: http://www.lipid.co.uk/maintest.html http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/fatproperties2.html A cursory explanation of saponification: http://chemistry.about.com/library/glossary/bldef825.htm Do only the FFA's saponify, or the total oil ? Presuming the amount of caustic in the rea

Re: [Biofuel] IRS Extension -- B100 as a blend

2005-02-13 Thread Appal Energy
nother tax credit vanish into the pockets of petroleum interests. My personal suggestion is that B-100 manufacturers prepare for this opportunity now, well before the ink drys on the federal register. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Kron" <[EMAIL P

Re: [Biofuel] IRS Extension

2005-02-13 Thread Appal Energy
"blend?" B-1 through B-99.9 are blends, not B-100. Whoever wrote that letter needs to redress that error if it's not already sent. If a credit is being sought for biodiesel, great. If it's being sought for blends, great. But they're two separate animals and should be treated as precisely that

Re: [Biofuel] Protecting our right to participate -- extend the IRScomment period on biofuel regulations

2005-02-12 Thread Appal Energy
t of human traits. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Kron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Protecting our right to participate -- extend the IRScomment period on biofue

Re: [Biofuel] Protecting our right to participate -- extend the IRS comment period on biofuel regulations

2005-02-12 Thread Appal Energy
1) You're not providing sufficient background on this issue for others to gain an informed understanding and draw their own conclusions. and 2) Everyone who is leaping lizards over this matter leaves out one very important fact - biodiesel blends, up to approximately B-75, do more to improve a

Re: [Biofuel] Re:http://www.wnbiodiesel.com/

2005-02-11 Thread Appal Energy
Do you mean other than farmers being increasingly isolated from the profit stream from making/distributing biodiesel? No. Well, I take that back. If farmers universally united and isolated the feedstocks from the ADMs and Carghills of the world and concertedly focused on bio-regional proce

Re: [Biofuel] 1" clear water pump

2005-02-10 Thread Appal Energy
That will depend upon how many gallons you put in your 80 gallon tank. Start at 24 hours and work your way backward or forward from there. - Original Message - From: "Jeremy & Tracy Longworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:49 PM Su

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: reply to original post...

2005-02-09 Thread Appal Energy
Do not boil water out of oil. Heat to 120*-130*F and let it settle out for twenty-four hours under heat. All you're going to do is expend large amounts of energy and atomize more water into the oil. Sure some will come out via boiling. But you're actually forcing some water into the oil.. Y

Re: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] "Let Them Eat Rocket Fuel"John Guttridge

2005-02-04 Thread Appal Energy
Just kidding. It's only the clique phrase "get over it" that's become so synonymous with republicans and their myopias that might give any hint as to what cloth you're persuasion is cut from. Well, that and the excessive use of caps in proper names. That should be God with one cap and Jesus w

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] "Let Them Eat Rocket Fuel"John Guttridge

2005-02-02 Thread Appal Energy
value could become such a motivator is left to those who wish to analyse such things, nevertheless a motivator it is, and unfortunately and unhealthy one unless kept in it's place behind the higher value of the life of the innocents it's influence affects. No man is an island, we all ha

Re: [Biofuel] Pre transesterification with heterogen catalyst

2005-02-01 Thread Appal Energy
Please take a moment to quantify/describe and identify the location of what you perceive to be "a lot of soap." - Original Message - From: "Iwan Prawito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Pre transesterification

Re: [Biofuel] wvo won't react

2005-02-01 Thread Appal Energy
Yes. - Original Message - From: "JD2005" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] wvo won't react Hi; I'm a new member.I just read that WVO (Waste Vegetable Oil) has got a higher level of acidity than ordinary

Re: [Biofuel] Second test batch help?

2005-02-01 Thread Appal Energy
> 1. Is this too dark of a mixture? Color is not a primary indicator of "good" or "bad" oil. Besides, the picture is too grainy and the picture's color is off overall. > 2. What happens when you put the NaOH + methanol mixture in too hot of o=l? And what is too hot? Exactly what happene

Re: [Biofuel] wvo won't react

2005-02-01 Thread Appal Energy
It's rather difficult to assist when you leave a whole in the variables big enough to float an aircraft carrier through. 5 to10 grams of lye? Just where did you stop on that sliding scale? And why? You state that the oil is heavily degraded - "black." So why do you think the problem lays wi

Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-01-31 Thread Appal Energy
Let's not start getting in the habit of deriding our animal friends because their tri-glycerides are of a little more substance than their veggie counterparts. Nine out of ten animals would agree, that is if they were still alive to talk about it, that saturated fats and oils actually make

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] "Let Them Eat Rocket Fuel"John Guttridge

2005-01-31 Thread Appal Energy
not. Hypocrisy is not the birthright, political or genetic disposition of any given group, unless you define that group as "humans." Ask yourself this: Which is the greater "sin" (or substitute your word of preference)? To place a gun to someone's head and pull the trigger or, as a practic

Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns Leading Climate Expert

2005-01-29 Thread Appal Energy
correct, I would have worded it a little differently and certainly would not have made presumptions as to what you don't know. That's just an invitation to a contest in which I prefer not to enter. Since you seem ready to accept such an invitation, I just want to say that I'm sorry

Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns Leading Climate Expert

2005-01-29 Thread Appal Energy
It was off the cuff memory from someone Keith's known. My friend Prema, a Tibetan Buddhist nun, once remarked rather conversationally: "It's not often a person gets the chance to live a human life, it's quite rare, one shouldn't waste such an opportunity." We should all be so lucky as to hav

Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns Leading Climate Expert

2005-01-29 Thread Appal Energy
was made of what scientific institution monitored temperatures around the globe in 1513, nor how they were able to measure the temperature since the thermometer was not invented until the 18th century. Ken --- Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael, > Since you seem ready to a

Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns Leading Climate Expert

2005-01-29 Thread Appal Energy
to say that I'm sorry about the misunderstanding and let's move on. These kinds of exchanges can consume an awful lot of time and I think we all have bigger fish to fry. Mike Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael, When two people say the same thing, one of them cannot

Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns Leading Climate Expert

2005-01-28 Thread Appal Energy
rk. FYI: This isn't an original idea. Someone thought of this comparison long before me. http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=greenhouse+effect+explained+fireplace&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&fl=0&x=wrt Mike Ken Riznyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Appal Energy wrote: Cons

Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns Leading Climate Expert

2005-01-28 Thread Appal Energy
rom: "Ken Riznyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns Leading Climate Expert --- Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Considering the fact

[Biofuel] "Let Them Eat Rocket Fuel"

2005-01-28 Thread Appal Energy
Let Them Eat Rocket Fuel Erik D. Olson January 27, 2005 The fact that there's a rocket fuel additive called perchlorate in your water is bad enough. What's worse is the fact that the Bush administration likely manipulated the National Academy of Sciences to designate a lax perchlorate standa

Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns Leading Climate Expert

2005-01-26 Thread Appal Energy
hour, day or year, your "colder than normal" means that someone else has a "hotter than normal." And due to the fact that neither "hotter than normal" and "colder than normal" are exactly quantitative in their expression, it's all rather hard to put much weight on such itinerate "data." Does

Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing

2005-01-26 Thread Appal Energy
This link doesn't say anything at all about the mixing time. I mean if I have 2 layers after setteling the biodiesel which was stirred for 5 minutes and you have it with 15 minutes stirred biodiesel. Ok, we both have the same, but how can I detect if indeed my way to do it, is "wrong"? You

Re: [Biofuel] thick wvo

2005-01-25 Thread Appal Energy
The presumption would be that the thick paste is converted saturated fats and oils. Did you conduct the reaction under constant heat? If so, did it seem to take place in the same manner as if you'd used SVO? Did the fuel wash well and were you able to conduct it with tepid water or did you

Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing

2005-01-25 Thread Appal Energy
For starters, get rid of that magnetic stirrer. They're not vigorous enough. And for your next trick? Don't combine "methods" from different processes. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Gregory Petit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 24, 20

Re: [Biofuel] waste oil heater update

2005-01-25 Thread Appal Energy
that come out of that stove. Oven temp controlled at the "burner" or extra heat shunted away from the oven? - Original Message - From: "Anti-Fossil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:47 PM Subject: [Biofuel] waste oil heater update Hell

Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing

2005-01-24 Thread Appal Energy
By the looks of it, you're shooting blind. If you feel that adding a dilute acid is necessary for any particular reason, always conduct side-by-side sampling with a straight water wash from the same batch. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to run comparison samples using different weak acids. As l

Re: [Biofuel] 2nd batch: looks better, but still some questions

2005-01-22 Thread Appal Energy
the fuel will clarify from the top down, perhaps giving the appearance of three layers. Why would you not think the fuel is sufficient to run in a vehicle? If it washes well, put it into the tank and go. - Original Message - From: "Gregory Petit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PR

Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Wars

2005-01-22 Thread Appal Energy
II).Then they were fought over idealism (Korea and Vietnam). Now, they are fought over oil rights (Desert Storm and Iraq). No ,matter what they tell you. Actually, the accepted phraseology, at least in the present US administration, is "national security." It's much easier to pass muster

Re: [Biofuel] Keith? Query about WVO refining and Glycerin Purifying

2005-01-21 Thread Appal Energy
You're not taking anything "too far." The question is whether or not you can afford "that far." Cost of energy inputs and evaporator, as well as the return on the glycerol are your limiting factors. First, you can get a product of high degree of purity without distillation. See the FFA reco

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Appal Energy
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines ou don't like latex? Appal Energy wrote: Would those be petroleum or bio-based party balloons for the celebration? Oleo-chemical..., should the day ever come. - Original Message - From: "Ly

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Appal Energy
Six to seven figures and better. - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines What does one of these massive wind turbines cost? _

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Appal Energy
sed party balloons for the celebration? On Jan 19, 2005, at 8:54 AM, Appal Energy wrote: Hello Peggy, It's a very exciting time to be active in these pursuits. Not to be the token, crusty, old, curmudgeon. But I don't think I'll be getting overly exited and start passing

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Appal Energy
It's a very exciting time to be active in these pursuits. Not to be the token, crusty, old, curmudgeon. But I don't think I'll be getting overly exited and start passing out party balloons until fossil and nuclear fuel subsidies are also reduced/eliminated, sugar is out of the Everglades,

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Appal Energy
http://www.photonics.com/spectra/tech/XQ/ASP/techid.1219/QX/read.htm The next stage was to configure it with a battery pack to keep it aloft after sunset. One stated use is to make such planes orbiting communications platforms that can be serviced regularly. Something tells me that it won'

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Appal Energy
rbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines Feed lots have a lot of manure to, but, no grass. So like feedlots, politicians must be fed, good feed, only to turn it into manure. Greg H. - Origi

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-19 Thread Appal Energy
That's a typo, right? Was supposed to be "routing the country?" - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines NE Colorado has a lot of wind and allot of grassland. Well, the same

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-18 Thread Appal Energy
Well, the same can be said of Washington D.C.. Or at least there must be a lot of grassland nearby to propigate the amount of manure there. But still, no wind turbines or anaerobic digesters to be found. - Original Message - From: "Greg Harbican" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAI

Re: Reply: [Biofuel] As it Relates to Biofuels >Monsanto Assault onU.S. Farmers Detailed in New Report

2005-01-17 Thread Appal Energy
would also be available. Shouldn't be too hard to find a source. Whether or not that source is within your region may be another matter. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Phillip Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 12:48 PM Su

Re: [Biofuel] Oil politics trumps everything.

2005-01-16 Thread Appal Energy
of the Cold War-era bases it uses abroad as it seeks to expand the network of bare-bones sites in the gap. Well, I guess this means the price of plywood's not going to go down in my lifetime. Gagnon's been largely on target for the past twenty-five years. Probably will be for another twent

Re: [Biofuel] Iso-propanol

2005-01-14 Thread Appal Energy
Correct me if I'm wrong. But isn't the Biox process conducted under extremely high temperatures and pressures? That wouldn't fall under the heading of "shadetree manufacturing." Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Andrew Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Biofuel] Attn.Todd Swearingen (forgive spelling)-first timebatch-settling tank

2005-01-14 Thread Appal Energy
You're more or less on the money as to how to achieve reasonable division of different fluids. My concern, for you, myself and anyone else in such a position is the exposure to methanol fumes by methods that don't incorporate sealed systems. Huffing methanol unintentionally can only come back

Re: [Biofuel] Kaliumhydroxide.

2005-01-13 Thread Appal Energy
better product yields (you avoid saponification and problems in the cleaning) Potassium hydroxide will saponify as well as sodium hydroxide. Just that the soap is more soluble than sodium soaps. It's primarily used in manufacture of liquid soaps, whereas sodium is used in bar soaps. The "s

Re: [Biofuel] reactor lineing

2005-01-12 Thread Appal Energy
find them.?? E-bay for a mint. Someone on this list mentioned an inexpensive outlet in the NE US not long ago. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Ray J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] reactor li

Re: [Biofuel] first time batch

2005-01-12 Thread Appal Energy
Been there and still doin' that. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "mark rose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:41 PM Subject: [Biofuel] first time batch Many thanks Todd.That was great amount of help to me.Thanks for your tim

Re: [Biofuel] first time post- first batch

2005-01-12 Thread Appal Energy
The processor is a 250 gallon stainless milk tank with built in variable speed agitator.We are about two weeks from our first mix of 100 gallons. Horizontal, yes? Max RPM on the sweep, both forward and reverse? Diameter of the sweep blade? If horizontal, you'll find that there's some finag

Re: [Biofuel] Ford Synus Diesel Urban concept car shows at Detroit

2005-01-12 Thread Appal Energy
--- From: "Martin K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ford Synus Diesel Urban concept car shows at Detroit Appal Energy wrote: Take a look at the back end of the car. One 2-5 mph crash and you&#x

Re: [Biofuel] China VW Competition - Golf ECO.Power

2005-01-11 Thread Appal Energy
Let's not just linch "all other auto makers" than Volkswagen ... There's a lot going on outside the USofA. I should have qualified that, at least in part, leaning more heavily on American auto manufacturers than most others. Then again, its rather difficult to give accolades to the likes of

Re: [Biofuel] China VW Competition - Golf ECO.Power

2005-01-10 Thread Appal Energy
consumes an average of only 3.8 litres of diesel fuel per 100 kilometres - a sheerly sensational value for a compact class vehicle. That's ~62 mpg, ten more miles per gallon than the 1.6 liter, four cylinder diesel of Rabbit and mid 1980's Golf fame. Don't know if a 20% improvement in 20-25

Re: [Biofuel] Ford Synus Diesel Urban concept car shows at Detroit

2005-01-10 Thread Appal Energy
$2,000 door and rimple the rear quarter panels for another several thousand dollars in damage. This thing should have a separate bumper, tailgate like a pickup and hatch like a pickup truck canopy to be practical to all but the autobody business. Todd Swearingen - Original Message -

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Re: pump mixing,...]

2005-01-08 Thread Appal Energy
h. That's really not my forte. BTW if anyone remembers that study and can send a pointer to the list I'd appreciate it. As to the cost numbers. Since pumps generally have high pressure seals and pressure has the obvious value in speeding up biodiesel reactions I think it makes se

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