Winny, Is your technology able for proccesing animal fats? If it is so, please contact me off the circuit in this mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If somebody else has able comercial technology for this (tested tech), please contact me. Best regards, Julio ----- Original Message ----- From: Winny De Schryver To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: RE: [biofuels-biz] Energy Considerations of a Supercritical Reactor
Christopher, We will be selling the technology, after we have build our own plant in Belgium. The theory is popular and has been published several times. Our lab test are conclusif. Unfotunately the Belgian Governement was not very positif to biodiesel, since two weeks we here positive decissions. We will have an appointment withe the minister late august early september. So we decided to go on. The plans for the plant an a steel scud will be build in a few days. We are collecting WVO (what is only under strict legal conditions possible in Belgium), se sell about 200 tons a month and are upscaling to 1,000 tons in 2004. It is possible that a reactor will be sold in a 20" container ready with connections to tanks, energy and water. Interested ? Winny > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Christopher Tan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: woensdag 9 juli 2003 10:17 > Aan: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > Onderwerp: RE: [biofuels-biz] Energy Considerations of a Supercritical > Reactor > > > Thanks for the info. Something tells me you are into selling this > technology? > > Regards, > Christopher > > =>-----Original Message----- > =>From: Winny De Schryver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > =>Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:33 AM > =>To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > =>Subject: RE: [biofuels-biz] Energy Considerations of a Supercritical > =>Reactor > => > => > =>Hello, > => > =>We use about 75 Kw/hour to heat oil and methanol (1200 liter/hour) > =>The rest of the heating is done with the cooling of the output. > =>And there is still enough heat for the offices and home. > => > =>When you use WVO there is no need to take care of the energy for > =>growing the > =>seeds etc... > => > =>Further on you need pumps, a reactor and decompression valve > and tank and > =>storage tanks. > => > =>That's it > => > =>Price 500.000 euro (capacity 10,000 ton a year) > => > =>Winny > =>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > =>> Van: Christopher Tan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > =>> Verzonden: zondag 6 juli 2003 8:57 > =>> Aan: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > =>> Onderwerp: RE: [biofuels-biz] Energy Considerations of a Supercritical > =>> Reactor > =>> > =>> > =>> Hi! > =>> > =>> Will a supercritical biodiesel reactor be more energy > efficient than the > =>> common transesterification process? > =>> > =>> Thanks, > =>> Christopher > =>> > =>> =>-----Original Message----- > =>> =>From: Mauro Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > =>> =>Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:45 AM > =>> =>To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > =>> =>Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Argentine no-catalyst process > =>> => > =>> => > =>> =>Hello Martin, > =>> => > =>> =>We are a little bit delayed, but not stoped. We are patenting the > =>> =>process, and continue the testing our experimental reactor (lab > =>> =>scale). We have delayed the building of the pilot plant other 4 > =>> =>months because we don't want start the construction without have > =>> =>our Patent first. > =>> =>Best regards, > =>> => > =>> => Mauro Knudsen. > =>> => > =>> =>----- Original Message ----- > =>> =>From: "Martin Brook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > =>> =>To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> > =>> =>Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:41 PM > =>> =>Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Argentine no-catalyst process > =>> => > =>> => > =>> =>> Hows it going? Best regards, Martin Brook, > =>> =>> ----- Original Message ----- > =>> =>> From: "mauro_knudsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > =>> =>> To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> > =>> =>> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:54 PM > =>> =>> Subject: [biofuels-biz] Re: Argentine no-catalyst process > =>> =>> > =>> =>> > =>> =>> Hello all, > =>> =>> > =>> =>> Yes, we are working in supercritical conditios. This is, > very strong > =>> =>> conditios for the oil and methanol. There is no space for > "kitchen" > =>> =>> experimentation. We have change ALL the design for this kind of > =>> =>> reactors, in one way that, they are very safety. One of > =>this reactors > =>> =>> can be broken near from someone, and nothing will happen. I > =>will give > =>> =>> you an example. The pressure and temperature, inside of a diesel > =>> =>> engine combustion chamber, it«s higher than the pressure and > =>> =>> temperature, inside of our reactor. However the diesel engines are > =>> =>> very safety because they are designed to run on this > conditions (if > =>> =>> not, maybe this engines can gone be very dangerous). I > can give you > =>> =>> thousand examples, like planes, cars, etc., we just have > to do well > =>> =>> designed machines. For me, the safety is FIRST, because I will > =>> =>> operate my own pilot plant in some months. > =>> =>> I«m sorry I can«t give you more details. > =>> =>> Best wishes, > =>> =>> > =>> =>> Mauro Knudsen. > =>> =>> > =>> =>> > =>> =>> > =>> =>> --- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison > =><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > =>> =>> > >See the following publication for supercritical reaction > =>> =>> conditions. > =>> =>> > > > =>> =>> > >"Biodiesel fuels from veg.oils via catalytic and non-catalytic > =>> =>> supercritical > =>> =>> > >alcohol transesterifications and other methods: a survey." > =>> =>> > > ENERGY CONVERSION AND MANAGEMENT 44 (2003) 2093-2109 > =>> =>> (Published by > =>> =>> > >ELSEVIER. www.elsevier.com) > =>> =>> > >Author: AYHAN DEMIRBAS > =>> =>> > > > =>> =>> > >levent yuceer > =>> =>> > > =>> =>> > Please check this link for supercritical reaction reservations: > =>> =>> > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=17922&list=BIOFUEL > =>> =>> > > =>> =>> > Best > =>> =>> > > =>> =>> > Keith > =>> =>> > > =>> =>> > >----- Original Message ----- > =>> =>> > >From: "Marc de Piolenc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > =>> =>> > >To: "biofuels-biz" <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> > =>> =>> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:38 PM > =>> =>> > >Subject: > > > > =>> =>> > > > =>> =>> > > > I think I speak for others on the list when I say WE > =>would like > =>> =>> to hear > =>> =>> > > > more about this! I confess I have no idea how it's > =>> =>> done...unless you are > =>> =>> > > > carrying out the reactions under supercritical conditions. > =>> =>> > > > > =>> =>> > > > Best, > =>> =>> > > > Marc > =>> =>> > > > > =>> =>> > > > You wrote: > =>> =>> > > > > =>> =>> > > > - The process can consume any crude vegetable oil or grease > =>> =>> (without > =>> =>> > > > neutralize). > =>> =>> > > > - In every feedstock we obtain a minimum of 99% of biodiesel > =>> =>> yield > =>> =>> > > > with not > =>> =>> > > > less than 97% conversion. > =>> =>> > > > - The process don«t make any soap. > =>> =>> > > > - The process don«t wash the biodiesel (because > don«t have any > =>> =>> soap > =>> =>> > > > and > =>> =>> > > > catalist trazes). > =>> =>> > > > - The procesing time is 6 minutes vs 1 to 6 hours in the > =>> =>> convetional > =>> =>> > > > way. > =>> =>> > > > - The entire process use 4 time less energy than the others. > =>> =>> > > > - For the same capacity the plant is little (and cheaper). > =>> =>> > > > - The process is fully continuos. > =>> =>> > > > - The biodiesel obtained always have good quality. > =>> =>> > > > - The glicerine obtained have higher concentrations and less > =>> =>> > > > contaminants > =>> =>> > > > than in the other process. > =>> =>> > > > - The process don«t need operators. > =>> =>> > > > - The cost for procesing its cheaper. > =>> =>> > > > - And the most important, the process is very > eficient at any > =>> =>> scale!! > =>> =>> > > =>> =>> > > =>> =>> > > =>> =>> > >Biofuels at Journey to Forever > =>> =>> > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > =>> =>> > >Biofuel at WebConX > =>> =>> > >http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > =>> =>> > >List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: > =>> =>> > >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > =>> =>> > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > =>> =>> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > =>> =>> > > > =>> =>> > > > =>> =>> > > > =>> =>> > >Your use of Yahoo! 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