Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-03 Thread Joe Street
More pressure across the sheet will definitely increase throughput but as one member pointed out the sheet can only take so much. No a plastic barrel would be worse. And no the size of the pump is not so much of a factor. I can implode a steel drum with an aquarium pump, although it will take

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-03 Thread glenne1949
Joe says: For vacuum use, I would construct a filter by using a pipe with tons of holes drilled in it and wrap it with the sheet or felt or what have you, Then place this pipe inside a larger pipe as a housing. The inlet would be to the outer pipe and then the pipe with the holes becomes a

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-03 Thread Joe Street
Glenn; I'm not sure exactly what product you are talking about but if you are thinking about something which is supposed to be disposable please don't. Whatever we build and use should be made to last and be emptied, washed and re-used. This is not a throw away world and we have to get away

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-03 Thread glenne1949
In a message dated 10/3/2005 3:55:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glenn;I'm not sure exactly what product you are talking about but if you are thinking about something which is supposed to be disposable please don't. Whatever we build and use should be made to last and be

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-02 Thread Evergreen Solutions
Umm, don't quite understand. Push air in to get air out? Or are you referring more to an accordian or bladder style container, compressed then forcibly expanded to create a vacuum? Sorry, it is late and I just accidentally closed some scripting that I'd been working on for several hours w/o saving

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-02 Thread Pannirselvam P.V
Hi Hal Thank for showing the very nice good picture and your very good work. Some filter aids use on the cloth and some height like cofee filter can improve the filteration quality. In the case of the crude oils , the impurity of small colloidal particles act as the filterationmaking

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-02 Thread JJJN
Hmmm, just when I start to think I know something Let me explain where I am at with this and it may save me endless hours and $. I reprocessed some bio based on JtF reprocess instructions, and had 0 Glycerin drop out. Possibly the Bio is fine, but it was darker than that I made from

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-02 Thread Kurt Nolte
On 10/2/05, Evergreen Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, it is late and I just accidentally closed some scripting that I'd been working on for several hours w/o saving it. The idea is that pushing air past the under side of the filter but above the oil is will keep it from vapor locking.

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-01 Thread Keith Addison
YES! Thank you for the great idea! I will ask my wife to help me make one soon. I have been pondering long and hard on this part of the process. Why bother to filter it at all? If you're running SVO, sure, but for making biodiesel there's no need. I seldom see flotsam in WVO, if so just scoop

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-10-01 Thread Kurt Nolte
On 10/1/05, Evergreen Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nippers away! OR, vacuum the bottom by pushing the air out of it rather than pulling. Vacuum's are soI dunno...ineffecient. Umm, don't quite understand. Push air in to get air out? Or are you referring more to an accordian or bladder

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Kurt Nolte
I wonder if you couldn't improve the speed of the it if you made it a vacuum filtration process? Hook up a vacuum pump to an opening on the side of the barrel, set high up so it doesn't actually remove oil, and turned it on to create a decreased pressure within the barrel to draw the oil through

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Joe Street
Careful. Even a modest vacuum will result in tremendous forces developing on the large surface area of that drum which is way too wimpy metal for the job as a vacuum vessel. You will end up crushing the drum and making a huge mess! Joe Kurt Nolte wrote: I wonder if you couldn't improve

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Tom Irwin
Hello Hal, Great idea and reusable as well. Thanks, Tom From: hal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:37:20 -0300Subject: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVOThought you folks might enjoy a cheap filtering technique we've been using for

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Hal wrote:Thought you folks might enjoy a cheap filtering technique we've been using for several months.http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-halspersonalpagesI like it! I use old pillowcases in the same way with 5 gallon buckets for the initial WVO filtering, but yours is prettier! -- Thanks,PaulHe's

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Doug Turner
and easy filtering of WVO Thought you folks might enjoy a cheap filtering technique we've been using for several months. http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-halspersonalpages ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread David Miller
Joe Street wrote: Careful. Even a modest vacuum will result in tremendous forces developing on the large surface area of that drum which is way too wimpy metal for the job as a vacuum vessel. You will end up crushing the drum and making a huge mess! I'll give odds on the sheet

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread JJJN
YES! Thank you for the great idea! I will ask my wife to help me make one soon. I have been pondering long and hard on this part of the process. Thanks for sharing, Jim hal wrote: Thought you folks might enjoy a cheap filtering technique we've been using for several months.

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Kurt Nolte
True. What if it were more of a pulsed vacuum, based upon rate of flow? A little vacuum assistance here, a little vacuum assistance there; what I was operating off of was the principle behind a little piece of lab equipment we used in high school, in which running water was used to generate

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Evergreen Solutions
Why a vacuum? Jeeze why a vacuum? Pumps are so much cheaper! 2 stage, barrel on a barrel, filter in the middle. Air tight @ the filter, airtight @ the top. A medium sized fish aquarium should be able to generate enough pressure (or an air compressor, they can be had for cheaply enough), pushes

[Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-29 Thread hal
Thought you folks might enjoy a cheap filtering technique we've been using for several months. http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-halspersonalpages ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org