Thank you bringing here the big effort made by JTF group and KEITH not only on small press , which I am very happy to inform that this small press , has made our list much debate , sorry I have no time to follow .But the small press we made based on the JTF and Keith work , is making the poor not become poor , but give the hope for better futures, simple one doing all the same of the BIG one too .Thus the people capacity making to build and operate technology is collective one , open source that need to be the open one too, all the credits go to Keith , as the design and our royalty too to him.We ,PhDs, with government spent money , university academic has spent a lot of time to make the the automatic screw press ,many such paper made press ,several thesis , patents, most have with no use,all sleeping in library which I am sure google is going get and sell it , naturally for rich , but the fact is Keith appropriate small press work very well like patented and inovative modern one. We expect with our project growing to pay donations for the same .Without this give and take ecological correct symbiosis , no good several hours dedicated work correctly poited out by Rexis , cannot survive the JTF and our list .The big crockdile such as yahoo, google , msn can swallow the small fish JTF , paying nothing leading ecological disaster.Thus Keith work on not only the BioD has showing an example how we need to join hand nad help the needful , to the poor and have not and not to explore them , not to think of only the profit.Well done really his dedicated very wonderful work on biofuel , not the best university , with huge money , even UNESCO is not able to make If one calculate the time he spend to read our list ,reply almost all , need , this can surely worthful more than Billgate fortune wit real value , especially the future generaions There is a lot of gap between inovative people and process based capacity building and simple product based marketing and selling. What our list members need to do is to make the network like bees , to use not the honey made by JTF group and Keith, rather make serious effort follow the road well built ,share the results , give and take the honey . This is how open source need to be really open ,really free fo the one who need it.Any good deed , well done work can have the good results.Our list members need to think of the future of our list , as the well done wok need not to be limited to one country , one company ,as Keith has correctly in ear liar e mail here , we need not to care here much about Bill Gate ,BIG BLUES, as this is waste of time, keep them out of topics.
Inovation to make biofuel
Our group in Brazil combined with ManicK , our list member too,Singapore , as brought here together by this list , again thanks to Keith , is doing joint project to make simple pyrolsis reactor of Biowastes integrated with Brazilian small scale distillation to make not only ethanol, but also methanol and Bio oil. We do think to release this design well made , that may take three months as the way JTF and Keith, jointly with our list members to build up people capcity to make power using biofuel made by them, thus they can get light which can get away the darkness and great green future based on biofuel.Any practical experience from others and Keith is well come about this new thread as I believe combiend etanol and metanol process can make BioD as the practical flexivel process for many rural areas. Manick has practical experience on metanol recovery from biomass, we do work on energy integration based on biomass.
We, list members need much contacts , much informations sharings, Inovative design such as one in JTF ,showing good examples for newer generations come here learn together with us to like biofuel , as they do not care only about BILLGATE , let us too not care too.I feel what we need is good topics , threads, not the repeated debate , new green catalyst,Todd, Balaji , Manick can bring here dynamic green thoughts.
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Pannirselvam
Rexis Tree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sound like he just wanna sell his product. And wishfully hope that we can help him to boost his sale.
Have we even see JourneyToForever complaining their effort spent to collect, make and test biodiesel, effort to support a website and a mailling list? Complaining about no big institude, no public money supporting them? And saying anything like "all biodiesel processors are so expensive, they goes in millions of dollar"? And charging us any penny for us to access on any biodiesel recipe or many other wonderful thing? No at all! There is just a donate button on the site, and everything else is free, not even a pop up banner! Well done.
Regards,
Rexis
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