Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chip >Keith Addison wrote: > > Hello Robert > > > >> Keith Addison wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Robert > >>> > >Really excellent stuff snipped, Thankyou, for my part, glad you think so. >I just wanted to make an apparently obvious >observation that I've come to over my short >half-a-century; > >"T

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-27 Thread Chip Mefford
Keith Addison wrote: > Hello Robert > >> Keith Addison wrote: >> >>> Hello Robert >>> Really excellent stuff snipped, I just wanted to make an apparently obvious observation that I've come to over my short half-a-century; "There is no us and them, There is only us, and we're all we have, quod e

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-26 Thread robert and benita rabello
Keith Addison wrote: (living "over the line.") I know. It happened to me when I was 23 and a little blue-eyed boy in the eyes of my family and so on because of my stellar progress up the rungs of the journalism career ladder, but then I went and altogether blew it by chucking aside a great

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Frank >Hi Robert and Keith, > >"I know. It happened to me when I was 23 " > >It happened to me, too. I think "it" is exiting the allegorical >cave, seeing the truth and not turning away from it. It then >becomes a burden and a responsibility to uphold, but ultimately, the >only thing that

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-24 Thread Frank Navarrete
Hi Robert and Keith, "I know. It happened to me when I was 23 " It happened to me, too. I think "it" is exiting the allegorical cave, seeing the truth and not turning away from it. It then becomes a burden and a responsibility to uphold, but ultimately, the *only *thing that matters. "So the

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Robert >Keith Addison wrote: > >>Hello Robert >> >>I didn't reply to this because I was a bit taken aback. Anyway I'll >>try. Lots of snips. >> >>Good for you with your attempt to complain to Feinstein, but why >>work in a vacuum? > > It's a little isolating to live "over the line." I k

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-23 Thread robert and benita rabello
Keith Addison wrote: Hello Robert I didn't reply to this because I was a bit taken aback. Anyway I'll try. Lots of snips. Good for you with your attempt to complain to Feinstein, but why work in a vacuum?     It's a little isolating to live "over the line."  My social network is pri

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Robert I didn't reply to this because I was a bit taken aback. Anyway I'll try. Lots of snips. Good for you with your attempt to complain to Feinstein, but why work in a vacuum? >>A lot of folks enjoyed those Oz videos about "Stupid Americans" but I >>thought they were very depressing! N

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda? on Iran

2007-02-18 Thread Michael
up support for another war and they are more than willing to do so. PAUL E. LEHMANN Brunswick - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda? http://www.zmag.org/conte

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-18 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?itemid=12139 ZNet |Iran | IED Lies by Milan Rai February 16, 2007 The US claims that Iran supplies Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDS) to Iraqi insurgents. No serious evidence has been provided. SUMMARY On Sunday 11 February, anonymous US officials

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-15 Thread Mike Weaver
Or, it could well be tue. Iran's current rulers are no bunch of schoolgirls on a picnic - just ask any Bahai. Of course, now no one believes anything Bush says - which is own fault. Woolf! Jason& Katie wrote: >oh, PLEASE! a few plumbing bits, some assorted cleaning chemicals, and a >lead sl

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-15 Thread Jason& Katie
oh, PLEASE! a few plumbing bits, some assorted cleaning chemicals, and a lead slug could level a truck easily. this is assuming that nobody touched any weapons stash, and everyone was dealing with what they had on hand. why would the Iraqi rebels need Iran's help blowing stuff up? more lies, as

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-14 Thread robert and benita rabello
Keith Addison wrote: Be more than deeply suspicious! There doesn't seem to be a whole lot I can do about this. The president isn't listening. I phoned Senator Feinstein's office and spoke to a rather laconic staffer about my concerns, telling him that I do not support the administra

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-14 Thread Mike Weaver
Wolf. Wooolf! Woollff! Keith Addison wrote: >http://www.alternet.org/stories/47994/ > >Fool Us Twice? From Iraq to Iran > >By Marjorie Cohn, AlterNet. Posted February 14, 2007. > >Hyped claims of nuclear weapons with no evidence to back it up ... >Why does that sound familiar? > >It's déja

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-14 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.alternet.org/stories/47994/ Fool Us Twice? From Iraq to Iran By Marjorie Cohn, AlterNet. Posted February 14, 2007. Hyped claims of nuclear weapons with no evidence to back it up ... Why does that sound familiar? It's déja vu. This time the Bush gang wants war with Iran. Following a

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Robert >Keith Addison wrote: > >>Fool you twice, Robert? It's the same BS as last time. > >Well, I wasn't fooled the first time and I'm deeply suspicious now! Be more than deeply suspicious! >This is a VERY unpopular stance to hold among the people with whom I >generally associate--espec

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-13 Thread robert and benita rabello
Keith Addison wrote: Fool you twice, Robert? It's the same BS as last time. Well, I wasn't fooled the first time and I'm deeply suspicious now! This is a VERY unpopular stance to hold among the people with whom I generally associate--especially family members. I guess Larisa Ale

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-13 Thread robert and benita rabello
Keith Addison wrote: >Hotlinked xrefs in the online version. > >- > >http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17036.htm >New York Times Falls for Bogus Iran Weapons Charges > >Completely Implausible Numbers are Thrown Around - Repeat of Judy >Miller Scandal > >By Juan Cole > > Thank

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-13 Thread Keith Addison
Fool you twice, Robert? It's the same BS as last time. >... Yet I'm hearing more and more stories on the radio that >implicate Iran for all manner of woes in the region, and yesterday, >I listened to the following on NPR: > >http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7371750 I guess L

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-13 Thread Keith Addison
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article2261526.ece Independent Online Edition > World Politics Target Tehran: Washington sets stage for a new confrontation By Patrick Cockburn Published: 12 February 2007 The United States is moving closer to war with Iran by accusing the "highest l

Re: [Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hotlinked xrefs in the online version. - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17036.htm New York Times Falls for Bogus Iran Weapons Charges Completely Implausible Numbers are Thrown Around - Repeat of Judy Miller Scandal By Juan Cole 02/12/07 " ICH" -- -- This NYT article depen

[Biofuel] Truth or Propaganda?

2007-02-13 Thread robert and benita rabello
I've been reading a lot of discussion on this list lately concerning a build-up of military forces in the Persian Gulf, ostensibly in prelude to an attack against Iran. Projecting power from afar requires the United States to build forces, but we don't ALWAYS attack a nation just because we've