Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-14 Thread Paul Webber
My aunt has a prius in LA, California. Prius's can use the HOV lane there because of their environmental-friendlyness, but that's kinda ironic because she gets lower gas milage driving in the HOV lane (at higher speeds) than she did when she didn't (in stop-and-go bumper-to-bumper traffic). PaulOn

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-13 Thread Joe Street
90 kph give or take an angstrom. What's an angstrom between friends? lol Joe bob allen wrote: I got 54, but I just used .6 mi/km John Beale wrote: 55.925 mph? -John On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Joe Street wrote: I looked VERY closely into it and I find I get my best fuel economy

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-12 Thread Joe Street
I looked VERY closely into it and I find I get my best fuel economy while traveling at 250 angstroms per nanosecond. Joe Mike Weaver wrote: I've done extensive tests, involving titration, iteration, recursions, incursions and regression to the mean. I've calculated the modulus and the

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-12 Thread John Beale
55.925 mph? -John On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Joe Street wrote: I looked VERY closely into it and I find I get my best fuel economy while traveling at 250 angstroms per nanosecond. Joe Mike Weaver wrote: I've done extensive tests, involving titration, iteration, recursions,

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-12 Thread bob allen
I got 54, but I just used .6 mi/km John Beale wrote: 55.925 mph? -John On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Joe Street wrote: I looked VERY closely into it and I find I get my best fuel economy while traveling at 250 angstroms per nanosecond. Joe Mike Weaver wrote: I've done

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread John Beale
-biggerbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSent:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:06 AM/x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerSubject:/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil/x-tad-bigger I'm curious about something.  In particular

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Dylan
What about motorcycles? Is there any alternative fuel for motorcycles? I know they get great gas mileage (i get 40-60 mpg depending on how i'm riding and if i'm mostly on freeway or city streets), but i would rather be independent from fossil fuels. Unfortunately, due to the nature of my job, i am

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Dylan
It is a good point that losing weight and increasing fuel efficiency go hand in hand. It seems that the heart of the issue is consumption. Kind of obvious but it does make sense. d-- a href=""

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
I've done extensive tests, involving titration, iteration, recursions, incursions and regression to the mean. I've calculated the modulus and the regulus, not to mention the pendulus and I always come back to the same thing: I don't really know what I'm talking about. Actually, what I

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
there are diesel motorcycles around... Dylan wrote: What about motorcycles? Is there any alternative fuel for motorcycles? I know they get great gas mileage (i get 40-60 mpg depending on how i'm riding and if i'm mostly on freeway or city streets), but i would rather be independent from

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
Most engine timing and even transmission timing (shift point) is now handled by computer. Some cars have sport mode and so on. Michael Redler wrote: Hi Jonathan, From what I can tell, there are few logical reasons for a 55mph speed limit. From a mileage point of view, the ratings on

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
:06 AM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil I'm curious about something. In particular the concept of limiting top speed to 55mph. I understand this being important on any car build/imported into the US before the speed limit change in the mid 90's. However

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread bob allen
howdy Mike, here is a 110 mpg Prius http://www.autoblog.com/2005/08/09/team-achieves-over-100-mpg-in-toyota-prius/ my prius gets about 53 mpg ave during mild weather and drops to the high 40s in really cold weather- a month or two a year. Driving is a mix of highway and city. Highway speed

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
There was a story about someone in Boston installing PV panels on his 1st generation Prius and using the juice to charge the battery. Be kind of cool to get a wrecked Prius and fiddle with the drive train. bob allen wrote: howdy Mike, here is a 110 mpg Prius

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread lres1
M Subject: Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil What about motorcycles? Is there any alternative fuel for motorcycles? I know they get great gas mileage (i get 40-60 mpg depending on how i'm riding and if i'm mostly on freeway or city streets), but i would rather be independent from fossil

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Joe Street
Kawasaki has a 650cc diesel. Here it is. http://www.f1engineering.com/ Joe Dylan wrote: What about motorcycles? Is there any alternative fuel for motorcycles? I know they get great gas mileage (i get 40-60 mpg depending on how i'm riding and if i'm mostly on freeway or city streets),

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread lres1
form. Not sure now if policy has changed. Doug - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil there are diesel motorcycles around... Dylan wrote: What about

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Zeke Yewdall
And by peaks, I mean it is at a minimum On 7/11/06, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you look at the grams per horsepower hour consumption for the VW 1.9TDI you'll find that it peaks at 1900rpm under high manifold pressure. On 7/11/06, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Zeke Yewdall
If you look at the grams per horsepower hour consumption for the VW 1.9TDI you'll find that it peaks at 1900rpm under high manifold pressure.On 7/11/06, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I've done extensive tests, involving titration, iteration, recursions, incursions and regression to the

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-11 Thread Dylan
I didn't know diesel bikes existed. brilliant! dOn 7/11/06, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And by peaks, I mean it is at a minimum On 7/11/06, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you look at the grams per horsepower hour consumption for the VW 1.9TDI you'll find that it peaks at

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread Dylan
Forgive me... my comments were a little broad, but i was referring to those who cannot fit into fuel efficient vehicles because they are overweight (hence, shedding fat for oil), height is a different matter entirely (which i, actually, hadn't thought of until you brought it up...thank you), and

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm 6'1 and my 2003 Golf is ok. I have a friend who's 6'3 and he seems ok in the passenger seat...Germans are often pretty big people. Size and fit is one of the reasons I bought the VW. I don't fit into Miatas, tho'. Kurt Nolte wrote: Dylan wrote: Another advantage to this agenda is

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread Joe Street
Buy a mini and take out the driver's seat. Sit in the back seat. There was a famous athlete who did this. Joe Kurt Nolte wrote: Snip It's my legs. They're far too long to fit into most of these ultracompact or even compact cars, which are the highest efficiency ones. I usually end up

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread Kurt Nolte
Mike Weaver wrote: I'm 6'1 and my 2003 Golf is ok. I have a friend who's 6'3 and he seems ok in the passenger seat...Germans are often pretty big people. Size and fit is one of the reasons I bought the VW. I don't fit into Miatas, tho'. I test drove a Golf before I bought the Lancer

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread Mike Weaver
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I have a friend who is 6'6 and 300 lbs...he is struck in a Lincoln towncar... Kurt Nolte wrote: Mike Weaver wrote: I'm 6'1 and my 2003 Golf is ok. I have a friend who's 6'3 and he seems ok in the passenger seat...Germans are often pretty big

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread Jonathan Hardin
I'm curious about something. In particular the concept of limiting top speed to 55mph. I understand this being important on any car build/imported into the US before the speed limit change in the mid 90's. However, have car companies not modified their timing/ratios on the transmissions of

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread Mike Weaver
for whatever reason my Golf seems to get the best mileage at 59 mph. Jonathan Hardin wrote: I'm curious about something. In particular the concept of limiting top speed to 55mph. I understand this being important on any car build/imported into the US before the speed limit change in the

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread Zeke Yewdall
It's not just gear ratios, but also the tradeoff between rolling resistance and wind resistance. Obviously the worse the aerodynamics, the lower the optimum speed, no matter if the engine is regeared to operate at optimum efficiency point -- my schoolbus gets much better mileage at 35mph than

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread dwoodard
Some 30 or so years ago I read from several source that the best mileage was obtained from North American cars around 35-40 mph. I understand the the cars in the transcontinental mileage contests that used to be held were specially modified with gear rations and transmissions to accelerate from

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread Michael Redler
Hi Jonathan,From what I can tell, there are few logical reasons for a 55mph speed limit. From a mileage point of view, theratings on carsreported by the manufacturer arefrom tests performed at 49mph in order to legally mislead the public and make the numbers look more favorable. That would

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-10 Thread lres1
thus drag and friction as the wind is drawn over the car. Doug - Original Message - From: Jonathan Hardin To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:06 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil I'm curious about something. In

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-09 Thread Dylan
Another advantage to this agenda is that americans would be able to drive more fuel efficient cars. Let's face it, the size of cars in the united states has increased with the size of people. Many americans can't fit into the more fuel efficient cars that are popular in other nations. So the

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-09 Thread Kurt Nolte
Dylan wrote: Another advantage to this agenda is that americans would be able to drive more fuel efficient cars. Let's face it, the size of cars in the united states has increased with the size of people. Many americans can't fit into the more fuel efficient cars that are popular in

Re: [Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-08 Thread William Adams
y real dollars in my pocket? Absolutely. Try it yourself and report your results here. Best wishes to allfor improved fuel efficiency, Oregon Bob - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren To: biofuel Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:00 PM Subject: [Biofuel] she

[Biofuel] shedding fat for oil

2006-07-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
definitely a constructive thought Kirkhttp://www.fitover40.com/newsletter/I really do not care what your personal political agenda may be. It is none of my business, and this is not a political forum. However, “oil and war” is not much of a political bombshell. They go together like bread