products, etc. but those
people are a small minority and usually only in business for a short term.
Terry Dyck
From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:05:57
of this? I think through highly tuned
perceptual powers.
Peace, D. Mindock
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Joe Street wrote:
Ok Bob, maybe you'll
. This is true for so many issues. We all suffer
from this relunctance to change, modify, improve.
Peace, D. Mindock
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Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 12:12 PM
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I
Can you tell me a bed time story?
Mike Weaver wrote:
Proof schmoof. I'm here to tell you it works. I pricked my finger on a
spindle and slept for 99 days.
-W
Joe Street wrote:
Hi Bob;
Sorry for the cheap shot I thought you would take it as good natured
humour which is the
and howdy to you
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Bob
... until the onset of Big Pharma (plus unforeseeable
side-effects). Uh, all those unforeseeable side-effects wouldn't just
happen to be a very powerful application of the placebo effect
either, would they now.
actually some may be. The
We all need a bedtime story
Joe Street wrote:
Can you tell me a bed time story?
Mike Weaver wrote:
Proof schmoof. I'm here to tell you it works. I pricked my finger on a
spindle and slept for 99 days.
-W
Joe Street wrote:
Hi Bob;
Sorry for the cheap shot I thought you would take
s.org
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could it be that acupuncture is just a very powerful application of the
placebo effect?
D. Mindock wrote:
I saw a documentary last year on acupuncture. I saw a guy flat on his back
in the OR
with
I'd bet that if the strong skepticism applied to deny alternative
medicine's effectiveness by western science were also applied to western
medicine, many of the drugs which have been recalled in recent history
probably wouldn't have made it to market...
doug swanson
Kirk McLoren wrote:
every thing was hunky dory until you tried to align me with Bush- them's
fighten' words ;-)
the obvious difference between me an a number of others on this list is
simply what we are willing to accept as credible evidence. Generally, I
look for studies, published in peer reviewed journals of
so Kirk if this is evidence of efficacy, (reality) is mine also?
http://grouper.com/video/MediaDetails.aspx?id=422258
If my video is not reality, but yours is, what criteria do you use to
separate the two
Kirk McLoren wrote:
through highly tuned
perceptual powers.
Peace, D. Mindock
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Joe Street wrote:
Ok Bob, maybe you'll like
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Joe Street wrote:
Ok Bob, maybe you'll like this:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ap/ni/2002/0016/0004/art
01145
much better, but a far cry from supporting your claim that major
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Ok Bob, maybe you'll like this:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ap/ni/2002/0016/0004/art
01145
much better, but a far cry from
of this? I think through highly tuned
perceptual powers.
Peace, D. Mindock
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Joe Street wrote:
Ok Bob, maybe
llen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <BIOFUEL@SUSTAINABLELISTS.ORG> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] testimonials as proof Joe Street wrote: Ok Bob, maybe you'll like this: http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ap/ni/2002/0016/0004/art 01145 much bet
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Joe Street wrote:
Ok Bob, maybe you'll like this:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ap/ni/2002/0016/0004/art
: Re: [Biofuel] testimonials as proof
For the same reason your insurance will pay for 300,000.00 heart
transplant but won't pay for 100.00 course on
how to change your life so you won't need the transplant.
I am still left with a concern: if acupuncture really can be used in
place of anesthesia
know of this? I think through
highly tuned
perceptual powers.
Peace, D. Mindock
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Joe Street wrote
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] testimonials as proof Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:02:42 -0500you be the judge as to the value of testimonial evidence:"NBC's Dateline has broadcast the results of
our environment, but to be full of
awe- well that is getting a little religious.
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D. Mindock wrote:
Gimme
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Bob,
How many people have herbs (or supplements, essential oils, vitamins)
killed vs Prescrip drugs? How many
people have had their disease helped with prescrip drugs
. I have
never heard of anyone having side effects from taking White Willow Bark.
uh, testimonial again. sorry
Terry Dyck
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Date: Fri
From: bob allen
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:56:12 -0500
Howdy Terry. First, how do you know that an herb has a thousand years
of testimonies
from taking White Willow Bark.
uh, testimonial again. sorry
Terry Dyck
From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:56:12 -0500
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:56:12 -0500
Howdy Terry. First, how do you know that an herb has a thousand years
of testimonies? because someone said so. That itself is a testimonial
Hey Bob;
Ever been under general anaesthesia? Remember how you felt when you
came around? Did you puke? Like the worst hangover you ever had? Now
you're gonna argue with me that recovering from a wound isn't gonna be
easier without having to deal with being poisoned to the brink of death
for
Howdy Joe, is this your support for the efficacy of acupuncture? sure
there are side effects from the use of general anesthesia, but that is
not the discussion here. You made a claim that major operations are
done using only acupuncture as the anesthetic. I personally doubt it
but am open
Ok Bob, maybe you'll like this:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ap/ni/2002/0016/0004/art01145
I hope that is scientific enough for you on the efficacy issue, but my
point was that if surgery can be performed without anaesthetic it's got
to be better.
I am told by Chinese
Joe Street wrote:
Ok Bob, maybe you'll like this:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ap/ni/2002/0016/0004/art01145
much better, but a far cry from supporting your claim that major surgery
is done with only acupuncture as an anesthetic. The abstract describes a
method of observing
Hey that's a nifty bit of editing you did there Bob! I like the way
you cut it off just before the bit that said the actual acupuncture
affected the activation level of the sensory cortex significantly MORE
than the sham group .here
"However, real EA elicited significantly higher
Joe Street wrote:
Hey that's a nifty bit of editing you did there Bob! I like the way you
cut it off just before the bit that said the actual acupuncture affected
the activation level of the sensory cortex significantly MORE than the
sham group .here
However, real EA elicited
Hi Bob;
Sorry for the cheap shot I thought you would take it as good natured
humour which is the way it was intended. Well I'm no neurologist but I
thought the sensory motor cortex is where a lot of that sensation stuff
goes on. I know this because my daughter has partial seizures in that
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-799443241400641366q=acupunctureOpen heart surgery with only acupuncture as anesthetic.Kirkbob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Street wrote: Ok Bob, maybe you'll like this:
Proof schmoof. I'm here to tell you it works. I pricked my finger on a
spindle and slept for 99 days.
-W
Joe Street wrote:
Hi Bob;
Sorry for the cheap shot I thought you would take it as good natured
humour which is the way it was intended. Well I'm no neurologist but I
thought the
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Joe Street wrote:
Ok Bob, maybe you'll like this:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ap/ni/2002/0016/0004/art01145
much better, but a far cry from supporting your claim that major surgery
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Margaret Olsen, M.D
the clues (mysteries) that are around us and in us and be in awe of
Nature.
Peace, D. Mindock
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D. Mindock wrote
006 7:12
PM
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proof
Bob, How many people have
herbs (or supplements, essential oils, vitamins) killed vs Prescrip
drugs? How many people have had their disease helped with prescrip
drugs? which only take care of symptoms at best and cause many
side-effect
From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:02:42 -0500
you be the judge as to the value of testimonial evidence:
NBC's Dateline has broadcast
Margaret Olsen, M.D., a dermatologist who practices in Los Angeles, received $5,000 for her endorsement. Thats the problem with most of the MD pharma endorsements. placebo works as well or better. The white coat has heavy mojo. Herbs on the other hand have been endorsed by thousands of
these things but nowour
government's policiesis making them nonavailable.
Peace, D. Mindock
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Kirk
McLoren
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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 10:32
PM
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proof
Margaret
: Saturday, September 30, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] testimonials as proofMargaret Olsen, M.D., a dermatologist who practices in Los Angeles, received $5,000 for her endorsement. Thats the problem with most of the MD pharma endorsements. placebo works as well or better. The white coat
you be the judge as to the value of testimonial evidence:
NBC's Dateline has broadcast the results of an undercover investigation
in which an infomercial producer was asked to create an infomercial for
an alleged skin moisturizer called Moisturol. Even though the producer
was told that there
: [Biofuel] testimonials as proof
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:02:42 -0500
you be the judge as to the value of testimonial evidence:
NBC's Dateline has broadcast the results of an undercover investigation
in which an infomercial producer was asked to create an infomercial for
an alleged skin moisturizer
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] testimonials as proof
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 10:02:42 -0500
you be the judge as to the value of testimonial evidence:
NBC's Dateline has broadcast the results of an undercover investigation
in which
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