Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Harry Thanks for those references Keith, they will be very useful. You're most welcome, I'm glad you can use them. produce enough food to go around. Until I observe a change in the way wealth, and food, are distributed I must insist that we do all we can to increase the total production of

Re: [biofuel] more on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-29 Thread David Reid
- Original Message - From: F. Marc de Piolenc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel List biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:04 PM Subject: [biofuel] more on Jerusalem artichokes Subject: Re: More on Jerusalem artichokes Steve Spence wrote: my father in law just plowed under 2

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
Oh, yes, the best way to spread the crop of Jerusalem artichokes is to roto-till them -- every little piece starts a new plant. Probably the best way to get rid of them w/o major herbicide is to put hogs in there. Similar conversation on two other lists, about kudzu. Kudzu should be a good

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
Keith Addison wrote: According to the Alcohol Yield tables in the Mother Earth Alcohol Fuel Manual, Jerusalem artichokes yield 20 gallons of 99.5% ethanol per ton, and 1,200 gallons per acre. Yield per acre is calculated on three harvests of heads per year. Are you sure they're

RE: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread kirk
: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes The bugs in the stomachs of ruminants and termites digest cellulose (waste paper and stubble) to sugars that can be fermented. The reason draft horses are inefficient is that they require too much land to grow their fuel (food), even for on farm energy existing

RE: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread kirk
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes Oh, yes, the best way to spread the crop of Jerusalem artichokes is to roto-till them -- every little piece starts a new plant. Probably the best way to get rid of them w/o major herbicide is to put hogs in there. steve

RE: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
My impression on viewing the yield per acre of fuel from Jerusalem artichokes is who needs horses? I only feed a tractor when I use it. A draft horse eats more hay than 3 cows and thats all winter. Tractor just sits there. No fuel needed till doing useful work. And much work people do with

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread Jan Sur—wka
Hi Harmon, I am not sure what do you mean by ultra prolific crops - but if you meant abundant energy resource here is one of the answers: straw - used for combustion in furnaces and boilers I do not know exactly where the idea of using it was first born, but certainly Denmark is a good

[biofuel] more on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Subject: Re: More on Jerusalem artichokes Steve Spence wrote: my father in law just plowed under 2 acres of Jerusalem artichokes. they keep coming up and he can't get rid of them :-( The books do say that volunteer plants are a problem with all the sunflower family. Wish he could send the

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
Thanks for those references Keith, they will be very useful. I am in an unstable phase in regards to my position on Ecological Sustainability and population. If we are in fact in denial and consequentially get it wrong we and the rest of biodiversity may only survive in pockets, despite what WE

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-27 Thread David Reid
get 2 crops. B.r., David - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:30 AM Subject: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes According to the Alcohol Yield tables in the Mother Earth Alcohol Fuel Manual, Jerusalem

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-27 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
The bugs in the stomachs of ruminants and termites digest cellulose (waste paper and stubble) to sugars that can be fermented. The reason draft horses are inefficient is that they require too much land to grow their fuel (food), even for on farm energy existing waste products need to be used. Any

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-27 Thread steve spence
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes The bugs in the stomachs of ruminants and termites digest cellulose (waste paper and stubble) to sugars that can be fermented. The reason draft horses are inefficient is that they require too much land

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-27 Thread Keith Addison
Gary and Jos Kimlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bugs in the stomachs of ruminants and termites digest cellulose (waste paper and stubble) to sugars that can be fermented. There's a lot of work in progress on cellulose to ethanol, but I think it's safe to say that none of it's arrived yet

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-27 Thread Harmon Seaver
Keith Addison wrote: According to the Alcohol Yield tables in the Mother Earth Alcohol Fuel Manual, Jerusalem artichokes yield 20 gallons of 99.5% ethanol per ton, and 1,200 gallons per acre. Yield per acre is calculated on three harvests of heads per year. Are you sure they're

[biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-26 Thread Keith Addison
According to the Alcohol Yield tables in the Mother Earth Alcohol Fuel Manual, Jerusalem artichokes yield 20 gallons of 99.5% ethanol per ton, and 1,200 gallons per acre. Yield per acre is calculated on three harvests of heads per year. Comparative yields are 889 gal/acre for sugar in Hawaii,