Hi MM,

Look at,

http://california.energy.saving.nu/

especially,

http://energy.saving.nu/california/victim.shtml

and

http://peakdemand.energy.saving.nu/
http://fastfixes.energy.saving.nu/

and you will find some data.

It is quite interesting and you can see what I was pointing out
earlier.

Hakan


At 11:49 PM 1/25/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>You know, while it may be true that Californians have practiced and
>studied some good conservation principles, I also think David has a
>point.  Back when I was taking some hard look at America's overall
>energy usage, home heating oil is a very significant part of that
>usage.  Sometimes the statisticians will break out home heating oil
>from other statistics because it can tend to skew our understanding.
>
>Home heating oil is, I think, not as important in some parts of the
>country.
>
>We do have heating and cooling needs here in San Diego, but it is
>somewhat a matter of degree and location.  By the ocean, it is cooler
>and one doesn't need A/C as much.  Further inland A/C could be more
>important, it can get *very* hot in some areas, but it is dry here and
>not like some of the more humid extreme-heat situations.
>
>As to energy needs during cool periods, it is important to have heat,
>but obviously not as important nor as demanding on the energy supply
>as in a climate that often goes well below freezing, such as one finds
>in other parts of the country.
>
>
>
>On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:16:48 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >
> >Hi David,
> >
> >The fact is that California during many years have a very active
> >program for saving of energy. This is the reason, because if you
> >look at other states in US, with similar climate conditions, they
> >are at average or above average. Of course, a lot is AC in those
> >states, very much offices. If you look at statistics over the years
> >and growth, you can clearly see that it is man made savings.
> >
> >California is the state that is and has been the most active state
> >in US, when it comes to energy conservation and pollution. We
> >had many exchange students and visiting professors from California
> >in the Swedish universities.
> >
> >Still the Californian use twice as much energy as the average Swede.
> >But they are best in the US after Hawaii, which is definitely determined
> >by the climate.
> >
> >Hakan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 06:55 PM 1/23/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Re:
> >>Californians 50%
> >>
> >>I don't want to step on a good thing, but is it 50% because of the climate,
> >>or 50% because Californians are
> >>different or more energy conscious?
> >>
> >>My gfather lives in San Diego.  He almost never has to turn the heat on,
> >>ever.  He only uses AC on the
> >>hotest of days.. perhaps 5 days if that.
> >>
> >>Contrast that to my coast, and its cold cold cold in the winter.. and hot
> >>and muggy in the summer where you
> >>might leave the AC in the car on while you tkae a shower and get ready for
> >>your date..lest you get all sweaty before you AC can
> >>cool your car.  <not everyone owns a garage>
> >>
> >>
> >>So i dont really like the 50% one..
> >>
> >>on the other hand.. THIS ONE
> >>http://energy.saving.nu/biofuel-sticker-3.jpg
> >>
> >>is absolutely hilarious.   and gives you the secondary point of committing
> >>suicide on your dependence on the pump.
> >>
> >>funny..  :)
> >
> >
> >
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