Re: [Biofuel] Tallow

2006-06-10 Thread JJJN
Well I have been out a bit so I am late in reply, after reading all the good replys so far I really have nothing to add but if you get to much methanol or base in your procedure - it makes washing harder and you get poorer results. Keep at it you'll get there. Jim Parraga Pablo-Francisco wrot

Re: [Biofuel] Tallow

2006-06-10 Thread Thomas Kelly
fuel can't take stir-washing, it probably isn't very good.    Tom - Original Message - From: Parraga Pablo-Francisco To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: [Bio

Re: [Biofuel] Tallow

2006-06-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Pablo >I used Fresh Tallow In that case use the standard amount of lye, there's no need to do bracketing tests. Since you're getting strange results, what else are you doing that could be wrong? How did you process the tests? What temperature? How did you agitate it? For how long? How did

Re: [Biofuel] Tallow

2006-06-09 Thread Parraga Pablo-Francisco
I used Fresh Tallow   I worked first with fresh vegetable oul and the results of tallow are quiete similar but the glicerine is LIgtherl (less brown).   I have not washed any of the tests. I did not tritate I just put in a 200mL melted tallow in each of the 7 bottles, and add quantities of metanol

Re: [Biofuel] Tallow

2006-06-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Pablo >HI everybody and Bob and JJN specially, > >I have made the porr man´s tritation process with tallow. Fresh tallow or used tallow? If it's used tallow did you titrate it or just use the bracket tests? >I did apply for the experiment an equivalent of 300mL of methanol >per liter, and

[Biofuel] Tallow

2006-06-09 Thread Parraga Pablo-Francisco
HI everybody and Bob  and JJN specially,     I have made the porr man´s tritation process with tallow.  I did apply for the experiment an equivalent of 300mL of methanol per liter, and 4.5, 5.0, 5.5, 6.0, 6.5, 7.0 and 7.5 of KOH.  My results, were to have transformation in all cuantities of catalys

Re: [Biofuel] Tallow

2006-03-18 Thread JJJN
e acid/base >>>method.with this feedstock. >>>Regards >>>Bob >>> >>>- Original Message - >>>*From:* Parraga Pablo-Francisco >>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>*To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org &

Re: [Biofuel] Tallow

2006-03-17 Thread Keith Addison
> > Regards > > Bob > > > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Parraga Pablo-Francisco > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > > *Sent

Re: [Biofuel] Tallow

2006-03-17 Thread JJJN
; <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2006 6:38 PM > *Subject:* [Biofuel] Tallow > > Hi, > > Is there someone Who had worked Bio diesel from tallow? > > I do Know the process but I am afraid I not sure abo

Re: [Biofuel] Tallow

2006-03-14 Thread Bob Carr
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Tallow Hi,   Is there someone Who had worked Bio diesel from tallow?   I do Know the process but I am afraid I not sure about quantities.  What one should be the Ph for the trtation process?   Is OK KOH and Methanol

[Biofuel] Tallow

2006-03-13 Thread Parraga Pablo-Francisco
Hi,   Is there someone Who had worked Bio diesel from tallow?   I do Know the process but I am afraid I not sure about quantities.  What one should be the Ph for the trtation process?   Is OK KOH and Methanol?   Well any one Who Knows Would be helpful   Thanks     Pablo            _

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-23 Thread Keith Addison
ts Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ >-Original Message- >From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:00 AM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tallow > > >"bob golding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote &

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-23 Thread Mike Brownstone
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tallow "bob golding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >I think that the BSE prion does not survive the rendering process. Yes it does. Prions are more resistant to steam sterilization than conventional transmissible agents. Extremely resistant to dry heat: a t

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:52 AM >Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow > > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 8:16 PM >

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-22 Thread bob golding
I think that the BSE prion does not survive the rendering process. - Original Message - From: "beeteljeuse beelzebub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:52 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow > > > > >-Original Message- > >F

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-22 Thread beeteljeuse beelzebub
> >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 8:16 PM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [biofuel] Tallow > > >, > My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i am >interested i

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-21 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
] Sent: Monday, 21 May 2001 1:18 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow Hi Hanns, See attached for price history (See attached file: crude palm oil prices.htm) Gerry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at

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2001-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
>Hi Hanns, > >See attached for price history > >(See attached file: crude palm oil prices.htm) > > > > > >Gerry Sorry, Gerry, attachments get blocked (then we don't get viruses). Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel at Journey to Fore

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-21 Thread leegerry
Hi Hanns, See attached for price history (See attached file: crude palm oil prices.htm) Gerry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. T

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-20 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
? Thanks, Hanns -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2001 3:22 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow >Thanks for the yield tables and other info Keith. I'll try 5o use one hand >on

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-20 Thread Keith Addison
>Thanks for the yield tables and other info Keith. I'll try 5o use one hand >only from now on. Especially when reading all these flames about socialism & >stuff. > >Hanns :-) I'm sure you'll manage. Flames duly damped (I hope!), at least for now. It happens every now and then, but not too often.

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-20 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow Hi Hanns Thanks for the info. >Keith, > >Here is the URL of Kokonut Pacific P/L http://www.kokonutpacific.com.au If >you read it you will know as much about DME oil as I. Have sent them an >email but a

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-20 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
Thanks, Hanns -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 19 May 2001 3:45 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel

Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Hanns et al, Oil composition is in the article by Mary Enig at: www.apc.org.sg/special.htm . Have quickly scanned it but dont have time to read it. The better source is probably the USDA Nutritional Data Base. B.r., David Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.

Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-19 Thread David Reid
Hanns, See below B.r., David - Original Message - From: Hanns B. Wetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:06 AM Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow > David, > > See leegerry's message. (am using Microsoft

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-19 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow According to our yield tables, by the way, coconut and oil palm are the two highest producers: Crop - kg oil

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread Keith Addison
nal Message- >From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 1:15 AM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow > > >Hello Hanns > >Thanks very much for this info. > > >Keith et al, > >

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
ernational Economics Department of the World Bank. Hanns -Original Message- From: David Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 6:31 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow Hi Hanns, > >One of the problems using

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
thanks, Hanns -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 11:38 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow Price for Malaysian CPO(crude palm oil) is M$750 for May 2001. That is US$198. It

RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
th Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 1:15 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow Hello Hanns Thanks very much for this info. >Keith et al, > >One of the problems using palm oil might be its relatively high cost.

Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread David Reid
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Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread leegerry
cc:(bcc: LEE Gerry/Prin Engr/CSM/ST Group) Subject: Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow Hi Hanns, > >One of the problems using palm oil might be its relatively high cost. The > >current (very low) FOB price in PNG is about $US240/tonne but it has gone as > &g

Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread David Reid
Hi Hanns, > >One of the problems using palm oil might be its relatively high cost. The > >current (very low) FOB price in PNG is about $US240/tonne but it has gone as > >high as $US600/tonne in previous years. The cost of production is Indonesia > >is about $US127/tonne whilst in PNG it is about

Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread David Reid
into a wash is important and should be sufficiently large enough so they quickly dominate. B.r., David - Original Message - From: kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:04 AM Subject: RE: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow > A big difference

RE: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread kirk
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:04 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow Ron, What you need to do is work out how much fuel you are going to use in a year and how much each month. Once you know this you can then work out ho

Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-18 Thread Keith Addison
tp://journeytoforever.org/ >Hanns > >-Original Message- >From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2001 1:06 AM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow > > > >Thanks Keith, > > > >Only joined this gr

Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread David Reid
ol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow > Thanks for your letter. I'm still trying to find the right size design for > what I have in mind. Maybe I've been thinking to small as to still size. I > have a 1993 corvette, a 2000 Isuzu Rodeo, a 1972 chevy chevelle, a > mitsubishi mirage, a r

Re: Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread steve spence
ect: Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey guys, ethanol is totally welcome here. we tend to get really > intense on > > biodiesel at times, but if you are doing ethan

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
sed production of non fossil diesel fuel. Any thought on this subject? Hanns -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2001 1:06 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow >Thanks Keith, > >Only joined this group a

Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread ronald miller sr
, 2001 3:27 PM Subject: Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow > Hi Ron, Keith, Steve, Aleks, et al, > At present I believe I > have solved a number of problems associated with small fuel ethanol stills, > and was about t

Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread David Reid
Hi Ron, Keith, Steve, Aleks, et al, At present I believe I have solved a number of problems associated with small fuel ethanol stills, and was about to bring a range of small stills out at the start of the year, after spending the previous 18 mon

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread Keith Addison
>Thanks Keith, > >Only joined this group about 2 weeks ago and there is so much info I'd >forgotten about Aleks Kac's Foolproof method till you reminded me. Have just >copied and printed it & will investigate how it can be applied to palm oil >on a fairly large scale perhaps. > >Hanns Hello Hanns

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
-Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2001 9:32 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow >This web site may be of interest to you >http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/rohstoff_e/rohstoff.htm . It also is an >Autrian comp

Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread Aleksander <kac
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey guys, ethanol is totally welcome here. we tend to get really intense on > biodiesel at times, but if you are doing ethanol work (and many of you are) > please, speak up. > > > Steve Spence Yeah, and even some us die-har

Re: Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread steve spence
onald miller sr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: Re: Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow > Thanks a bunch > Ron > - Original Message - > From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 15

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread Frank Wishart
communicate? Hanns Wetzel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 8:16 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Tallow , My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i am interested in

Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread Keith Addison
>Hi Hans, I'm From the US and would like info on who has the best still >design. I plan on building my own using stainless steel. I also want to know >who has the best performing distillers yeast. I am planning on making fuel >for my automobile and lawn equipment. So far I have downloaded The Home

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread ronald miller sr
Hanns forgive me for mispelling your name and forgetting to give you my e-mail address. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: ronald miller sr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tallow > Is there a group of people who deal

Re: Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread ronald miller sr
Thanks a bunch Ron - Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:38 PM Subject: Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow > >Is there a group of people who deal strictly with ethanol who have an online > >discussion s

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread ronald miller sr
TECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tallow > Is there a group of people who deal strictly with ethanol who have an online > discussion such as yours. This really a good way to air or receive great > ideas. I enjoy reading the notes. > Thanks, >

Ethanol groups - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread Keith Addison
>Is there a group of people who deal strictly with ethanol who have an online >discussion such as yours. This really a good way to air or receive great >ideas. I enjoy reading the notes. >Thanks, >Ron miller Hello Ron There are two distillers' groups, but they're into booze rather than fuel. [E

Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-16 Thread ronald miller sr
y, May 15, 2001 6:31 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow > >This web site may be of interest to you > >http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/rohstoff_e/rohstoff.htm . It also is an > >Autrian company and they might give you some information about producing > >bio-d from high FFA feedst

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-15 Thread Keith Addison
cts Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 8:16 PM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [biofuel] Tallow > > >, >My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-15 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
? Hanns Wetzel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 8:16 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Tallow , My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i am interested in making BioDiesel from low grade tallow

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-15 Thread Greg Yohn
Look out for a high freeze point, which may be unacceptable to your Winter customers! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:16 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Tallow , My name is Frank

[biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-14 Thread fwishart
, My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i am interested in making BioDiesel from low grade tallow one of the drawbacks as i see it is the high FFA at +15% althoough if used on a daily basis this would be reduced. I have access to 800lt/day and am looking into the feasi