Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-09 Thread Hakan
Fred, The GPS system as such is not just a receiver. It also contains methods for two way communication. In fact apart from an ID recognizing system, it also have a messaging system. The ID system is modelled on the radar recognizing system used for air traffic control. A GPS can be active or

Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-09 Thread Hakan
Bob, 10 years?? It all started in a global and organized manner, with Napoleon and population registration. Before that you only had the control from the church, who for 100's of years had been obsessed with population control. Hakan At 12:17 PM 7/8/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hey !!, have you

RE: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-09 Thread Bryan Brah
Actually the two-way communications systems found on OTR trucks uses the cellular network to transmit data. -BRAH -Original Message- From: Robert Mills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:03 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-09 Thread dcande01
Hi Greg and April, Lojack does not have GPS yet that they admit too. From their web sight: Through an unequalled and highly successful relationship with police departments around the country, LoJack is the only provider of vehicle recovery systems directly connected to state crime computers.

Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-09 Thread murdoch
Whether by GPS or by some other method, another issue with these systems is that they can be undercut. There was a local scandal a few years back where a dealer had a disreputable working for them who gave thieves the location of the hidden lojack parts, so that the police were unable to trace

Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-08 Thread Greg and April
The GPS means nothing if the vehicle spends much of it's time in unmapped territory, or off road. Because then you have miles logged, but, not spent on public streets were the funds would go. Same problem applies to odometer readings. Don't get me wrong I think that people should be charges

Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-08 Thread dcande01
Hi I didn't think a GPS could be tracked as it is only a radio RECIEVER. I have heard this paranoid fantasy before however, what did I miss? Fred On Tuesday, Jul 8, 2003, at 13:08 US/Eastern, Greg and April wrote: The GPS means nothing if the vehicle spends much of it's time in unmapped

Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-08 Thread Robert Mills
Hey !!, have you been asleep for the last 10 or so years If you think you are not tracked daily as it is you must never go anywhere or spend any money using atm's and the like. Don't worry, big brother knows all about you and keeps his finger on the button at all times. It won't be too

Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-08 Thread Robert Mills
Do you know any truck drivers or any of the major trucking firms nearby? They can tell you the exact location of their truck and how long it has been there if it is sitting still. They can also send messages and the like via computer through the same system in both directions. Bob [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-08 Thread Greg and April
Then how does Lojack Onstar work? Greg H. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:54 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's Hi I didn't think

Re: [biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-08 Thread Greg and April
They can only currently track by video cam, not to many except with in major cities, and then mostly near intersections. Even now they are trying to track cell phones, but even that is proving some what problematic, and is only accurate to with in a 150 yards or so. No, we still have a few more

[biofuel] Tracking a car's mileage Was: The Hydrogen hype, the scam artists at work. and more idea's

2003-07-07 Thread csakima
Actually, I was just thinking, you could have every car required to be manufactured with a on-board, built in GPS. Then have that GPS tracked from X month to the same registration month the next year. Then have that file cross-referenced with the car's registration/ownership files.