Pablo,
You wrote:
"I think i will use bubble washing."
Consider stir-washing.
Read, re-read the information at JTF re: washing.
I stir wash my biodiesel now. It saves a lot
oftime.
Bubble washing can also mask some problems with
processing. I found, early on, that if my fuel can't take
Well I have been out a bit so I am late in reply, after reading all the
good replys so far I really have nothing to add but if you get to much
methanol or base in your procedure - it makes washing harder and you get
poorer results.
Keep at it you'll get there.
Jim
Parraga Pablo-Francisco
Hi Pablo
HI everybody and Bob and JJN specially,
I have made the porr man´s tritation process with tallow.
Fresh tallow or used tallow? If it's used tallow did you titrate it
or just use the bracket tests?
I did apply for the experiment an equivalent of 300mL of methanol
per liter, and 4.5,
I used Fresh Tallow
I worked first with fresh vegetable oul and the results of tallow are quiete similar but the glicerine is LIgtherl (less brown).
I have not washed any of the tests. I did not tritate I just put in a 200mLmelted tallow in each of the 7 bottles, and add quantities of metanol
Hi Pablo
I used Fresh Tallow
In that case use the standard amount of lye, there's no need to do
bracketing tests.
Since you're getting strange results, what else are you doing that
could be wrong? How did you process the tests? What temperature? How
did you agitate it? For how long? How did
Thanks Keith,
I must have read that just backwards the first time. That makes me feel
alot better about using it too.
Hope I did not dissuade any one from its use.
The day came that the rubber met the road here - I filled my 2000 Dodge
Cumins with Biodiesel that have been making all winter. I
Bob,
I really like the bd from tallow and (grill Grease) but it has a very
low winter use and high iodine value. I am treating all my bio with
both an anti fungal and anti oxidant treatment since I use tallow alot.
as far as winterizing in Montana the process is simple: Mid March
through mid
Hello Jim
Tallow has a low Iodine Value, not high. Variously given as 50-60,
33-47, 50, 35-48, but not higher than 60. Low IV, high melting point,
not good for winter, but it's not a drying oil given to rapid
oxidation and polymerisation.
Iodine Values
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tallow
bob golding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
I think that the BSE prion does not survive the rendering process.
Yes it does. Prions are more resistant to steam sterilization than
conventional transmissible agents. Extremely resistant to dry heat: a
treatment of 360 deg C
Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:00 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tallow
bob golding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
I think that the BSE prion does not survive the rendering process.
Yes it does. Prions are more resistant to steam sterilization than
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Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 8:16 PM
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Subject: [biofuel] Tallow
,
My name is Frank Wishart from Queensland Australia and i am
interested in making BioDiesel from low grade tallow one
: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:52 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 14 May 2001 8:16 PM
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,
My name is Frank Wishart from
Hi Hanns,
See attached for price history
(See attached file: crude palm oil prices.htm)
Gerry
Sorry, Gerry, attachments get blocked (then we don't get viruses).
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
?
Thanks,
Hanns
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From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2001 3:22 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow
Thanks for the yield tables and other info Keith. I'll try 5o use one hand
only from now
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Hello Hanns
Thanks very much for this info.
Keith et al,
One of the problems using palm oil might be its relatively high cost. The
current (very low) FOB price in PNG is about $US240/tonne but it has gone
as
high as $US600/tonne in previous years. The cost
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC)
Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow
According to our yield tables, by the way, coconut and oil palm are
the two highest producers:
Crop - kg oil
Hanns,
See below
B.r., David
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From: Hanns B. Wetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:06 AM
Subject: RE: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow
David,
See leegerry's message. (am using Microsoft
Hanns et al,
Oil composition is in the article by Mary Enig at:
www.apc.org.sg/special.htm . Have quickly scanned it but dont have time to
read it. The better source is probably the USDA Nutritional Data Base.
B.r., David
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow
Thanks Keith,
Only joined this group about 2 weeks ago and there is so much info I'd
forgotten about Aleks Kac's Foolproof method till you reminded me. Have
just
copied and printed it will investigate how it can be applied to palm oil
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:04 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow
Ron,
What you need to do is work out how much fuel you are going to use in
a year and how much each month. Once you know this you can then work out how
you
Hi Hanns,
One of the problems using palm oil might be its relatively high cost.
The
current (very low) FOB price in PNG is about $US240/tonne but it has gone
as
high as $US600/tonne in previous years. The cost of production is
Indonesia
is about $US127/tonne whilst in PNG it is about
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cc:(bcc: LEE Gerry/Prin Engr/CSM/ST Group)
Subject: Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow
Hi Hanns,
One of the problems using palm oil might be its relatively high cost.
The
current (very low) FOB price in PNG is about $US240/tonne but it has
gone
as
high as $US600
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To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow
Price for Malaysian CPO(crude palm oil) is M$750 for May 2001. That is
US$198.
It is not feasible to turn it into Biofuel, unless gas prices goes up
double.
Gerry
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Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 1:15 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow
Hello Hanns
Thanks very much for this info.
Keith et al,
One of the problems using palm oil might be its relatively high cost. The
current (very low
thanks,
Hanns
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 11:38 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow
Price for Malaysian CPO(crude palm oil) is M$750 for May 2001. That is
US$198
Economics Department of the World
Bank.
Hanns
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From: David Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 6:31 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Palm and coconut oil - was RE: [biofuel] Tallow
Hi Hanns,
One of the problems using palm oil might
Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2001 9:32 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow
This web site may be of interest to you
http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/rohstoff_e/rohstoff.htm . It also is an
Autrian company and they might give you
Hi Ron, Keith, Steve, Aleks, et al,
At present I believe I
have solved a number of problems associated with small fuel ethanol stills,
and was about to bring a range of small stills out at the start of the year,
after spending the previous 18
:27 PM
Subject: Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow
Hi Ron, Keith, Steve, Aleks, et al,
At present I believe I
have solved a number of problems associated with small fuel ethanol
stills,
and was about to bring a range
production of non fossil diesel fuel.
Any thought on this subject?
Hanns
-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 17 May 2001 1:06 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow
Thanks Keith,
Only joined this group about 2 weeks ago
ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow
Thanks for your letter. I'm still trying to find the right size design for
what I have in mind. Maybe I've been thinking to small as to still size. I
have a 1993 corvette, a 2000 Isuzu Rodeo, a 1972 chevy chevelle, a
mitsubishi mirage, a riding lawn mower
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 6:31 AM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Tallow
This web site may be of interest to you
http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/rohstoff_e/rohstoff.htm . It also is an
Autrian company and they might give you some information about producing
bio-d from high FFA feedstock.
I am from
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Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tallow
Is there a group of people who deal strictly with ethanol who have an
online
discussion such as yours. This really a good way to air or receive great
ideas. I enjoy reading the notes.
Thanks,
Ron miller
Hanns forgive me for mispelling your name and forgetting to give you my
e-mail address. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: ronald miller sr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Tallow
Is there a group
Hi Hans, I'm From the US and would like info on who has the best still
design. I plan on building my own using stainless steel. I also want to know
who has the best performing distillers yeast. I am planning on making fuel
for my automobile and lawn equipment. So far I have downloaded The Home
Hans
I have emailed BDI and they have replied that they can not take any
new enquires until they have reduced their backlog
Regards
Frank
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From: Hanns B. Wetzel
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hey guys, ethanol is totally welcome here. we tend to get really
intense on
biodiesel at times, but if you are doing ethanol work (and many of
you are)
please, speak up.
Steve Spence
Yeah, and even some us die-hard
Look out for a high freeze point, which may be unacceptable to your Winter
customers!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:16 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Tallow
,
My name is Frank
This web site may be of interest to you
http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/rohstoff_e/rohstoff.htm . It also is an
Autrian company and they might give you some information about producing
bio-d from high FFA feedstock.
I am from Brisbane and have similar intersts so perhaps we could
communicate?
This web site may be of interest to you
http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/rohstoff_e/rohstoff.htm . It also is an
Autrian company and they might give you some information about producing
bio-d from high FFA feedstock.
I am from Brisbane and have similar intersts so perhaps we could
communicate?
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