Re: [Biofuel] Rush to Use Crops as Fuel Raises Food Prices and Hunger Fears

2011-04-20 Thread Chip Mefford
Well, despite what 'we all know', viz the growing of crops in a way that doesn't destroy the earth, but rather sustains, even improves the fertility of the soil, and all that. Contemporary 'agribusiness' style agriculture being what it is, I'm still completely unclear on the EROEI of

Re: [Biofuel] Rush to Use Crops as Fuel Raises Food Prices and Hunger Fears

2011-04-20 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chip I'm also completely unclear on matters EROEI. There's some DoE data somewhere in the archives that says petroleum has a negative EROEI. So, 10 to 1 when Big Ag does it, but not when you do it yourself and small is beautifuel? I wonder if it might have something to do with what Dawie