Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
We tend to make a lot of fuss over acrolein fumes from burning glyc, apparently with good reason, but the IARC says the same about acrolein, also Group 3: Evaluation There is inadequate evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of acrolein. There is inadequate evidence in experimental

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-02-17 Thread John Hayes
Three quick points and then I have to get back to work. First, although acrolein and saccharin may both Group 3 compounds according to IARC, you yourself pointed out that the *reasons* for which they recieved that label are very very different. Logically, saying we don't have enough

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-02-17 Thread Keith Addison
To each his own poison, eh? :-) Keith. Three quick points and then I have to get back to work. First, although acrolein and saccharin may both Group 3 compounds according to IARC, you yourself pointed out that the *reasons* for which they recieved that label are very very different.

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-02-16 Thread John Hayes
Dear Eagle, I was not advocating the use of the little pink packets that contain saccahrin which indeed is a carcinogenic. Splenda comes in yellow packets. As far a reading about food products on the internet I'll trust the Center for Science in the Public Interest, before I'll listen to

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-12 Thread Legal Eagle
Complete earful on the benefits (not) of cow's milk. http://www.notmilk.com Luc - Original Message - From: Martin K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic Phillip Wolfe wrote: Thanks Bob

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-11 Thread Martin K
Phillip Wolfe wrote: Thanks Bob, (Professor Allen), My adopted family from Honduras would only drink raw organic milk, goats milk and believe it not even donkey's milk! They are very healthy individuals. They do not like store bought milk but that is about the only choice we have nowadays.

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-10 Thread bob allen
all ; ) Over the last six months I have come to realize that the major reason why autistic children need to avoid milk is because it is pasteurized. The pasteurization process http://www.mercola.com/2003/mar/26/pasteurized_milk.htm turns casein into a very dangerous molecule that can

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-10 Thread bob allen
ratbags.com quackwatch.com Legal Eagle wrote: G'day Phillip/Kirk; Stevia, even if 100% natural, has also had some negative reports come out about it, however I am not in a position to call that one. As for the artificial sweeteners, there are not sufficient words that adequately describe

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-10 Thread bob allen
G'day Ken; Before suggesting that others follow you into the lovely carcinogenic world of methanol producing artificial sweeteners. Methanol in the system is cumulative no it is not. It is metabolized into formaldehyde and formic acid rather quickly. Toxic in high concentrations but

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-10 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Thanks Bob, (Professor Allen), My adopted family from Honduras would only drink raw organic milk, goats milk and believe it not even donkey's milk! They are very healthy individuals. They do not like store bought milk but that is about the only choice we have nowadays. By the way, I know of

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic --vs dogma

2005-01-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
Obviously you have never read Pottengers Cats by Frances Pottenger MD or Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price. I have seen Quackwatch and it is typical of those who set themselves up as keepers of the one true faith. They attempt to sweep all dissidents into the same trash can by

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-08 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Dear Kirk, Thanks for the info. I read the complete text. My WWII veteran father is slight diabetic and I will definitely research and forward to my sistes for review for our father. Here an academic report I found on the internet: http://ari.calstate.edu/FundedProjects/abstract-Production.htm

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-08 Thread Ken Riznyk
Phillip, Before you jump on the bandwagon you might want to read this http://www.cspinet.org/new/stevia.html I alway like how these news releases pretend that they are on the crux of a new discovery. Stevia has been available in health food stores for years, and in some full service

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-08 Thread Legal Eagle
concerned abou such things. Luc - Original Message - From: Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic Dear Kirk, Thanks for the info. I read the complete text. My WWII veteran father

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-08 Thread Legal Eagle
then that is your choice, but to say that it is good is erroneous at best. - Original Message - From: Ken Riznyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic Phillip, Before you jump on the bandwagon you might

Re: [Biofuel] Splenda/sucralose toxic

2005-01-08 Thread Ken Riznyk
Dear Eagle, I was not advocating the use of the little pink packets that contain saccahrin which indeed is a carcinogenic. Splenda comes in yellow packets. As far a reading about food products on the internet I'll trust the Center for Science in the Public Interest, before I'll listen to someone