Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

2006-09-07 Thread Joe Street
Hi Jim; Ok I made up a graph by adding water one ml at a time to 90 ml of pure methanol. This was done at 23 degrees C which is the current temperature in my work area. The hydrometers are calibrated for 15 degrees so this is more practical for my purposes. As far as Bob's comment on what

Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

2006-09-07 Thread JJJN
Joe Street wrote: Hi Jim; Ok I made up a graph by adding water one ml at a time to 90 ml of pure methanol. This was done at 23 degrees C which is the current temperature in my work area. The hydrometers are calibrated for 15 degrees so this is more practical for my purposes. As far

Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

2006-09-05 Thread Ken Provost
On Sep 4, 2006, at 7:19 PM, JJJN wrote: Would you have some baseline readings? and can you tell 85% from 95% with one of these? They typically read off in percentage by volume of alcohol, as well as proof and Baumé (whatever that is :-)). You can easily tell 98% from 99%. -K

Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

2006-09-05 Thread bob allen
For liquids heavier than water: 0 °Bé = distance the hydrometer sinks in pure water 15 °Bé = distance the hydrometer sinks in a solution that is 15% sodium chloride (salt, NaCl) by mass. To convert from °Bé to specific gravity at 60 degrees Fahrenheit: specific gravity = 145/(145 - °Bé)

Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

2006-09-05 Thread Joe Street
Hi Jim; Yes I got a couple of hydrometers 0.79 to 0.90 range and rather than try to find calibration tables for temperature etc I decided the thing to do is take some fresh pure methanol and measure it's SG at room temperature (about 20 degrees C in my place) and then add some measured amounts

Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

2006-09-05 Thread bob allen
a confounding variable in determining water in methanol (recovered from the glycerin cocktail) depending on the distillation set up besides water and methanol you will also get glycerin- depending on the temperature and number of theoretical plates in your still. How a small amount of

Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

2006-09-04 Thread Ken Provost
On Sep 3, 2006, at 9:48 PM, JJJN wrote: Does any one know of a good test to determine the amount of water in methanol? The hydrometers you can get at a homebrew shop (or on the web) work fine for methanol -- the densities of methanol and ethanol are practically the same. -K

Re: [Biofuel] Testing H2O in Methanol

2006-09-04 Thread JJJN
Would you have some baseline readings? and can you tell 85% from 95% with one of these? Jim Ken Provost wrote: On Sep 3, 2006, at 9:48 PM, JJJN wrote: Does any one know of a good test to determine the amount of water in methanol? The hydrometers you can get at a homebrew shop (or