Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Kennedy
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:07 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator,input appreciated You are right David. Induction generators are essentially the same

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-25 Thread Zeke Yewdall
MarkNormally I wouldn't recommend using car batteries, because they are not deep cycle batteries, and will fail pretty quickly -- less than a year. But if you can get them for free I'd recommend golf cart batteries at the very least. Stick a bunch of them in the bed of the chevy luv... And

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-25 Thread Darryl McMahon
24, 2006 7:07 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator,input appreciated You are right David. Induction generators are essentially the same as AC induction motors. On 1/24/06, David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-25 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Good info Darryl. A few additions. There is not much gain from using 24 volts vs. 12 volts as the native voltage. Actually, almost all off grid houses use 48 volts nowadays. Cheaper since equipment is usually limited by the amperage it can take, and if you have a 10kW inverter bank, the

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-25 Thread Mark Kennedy
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:45 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator,input appreciated Good info Darryl. A few additions. There is not much gain from

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-24 Thread Mark Kennedy
] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator,input appreciated I don't know about that model of Isuzu engine, but their little truck engines are good, so I would tend to think it's a good engine. A direct injection engine isn't quite as good for straight veggie oil, but will run on biodiesel fine

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-24 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I'd check out homepower.com Especially their older articles (they've become much less techy over the years as the target audience has changed). The system I was referring to is essentially the same as for a wind or PV system, but with a biodiesel generator as the prime mover instead. Having the

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-24 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Mark,I agree that a 50 kVA genset is overkill unless you live in a mansion, BUT you can check with your local utility (Reliant? or Coop?) about Net Metering. Since your meter would run backward, you could 'store' power into the grid when you run it and pull power from the grid when you aren't.

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-24 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Another issue with net metering will be interconnection standards. Generally if you are connecting a rotating generator to the grid, you will need a level of protective relaying that will be prohibitive for the scale you are talking about -- like $25k or $100k. Using a grid connected inverter will

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-24 Thread John Mullan
I built a similar one (gas not diesel). Picture: http://www.mullan.ca/images/gen_2a.jpg There is now a 1800W inverter bolted to the right side (not shown). The battery is not the sole storage device. I clamp on my battery pack deep cycles to this battery to charge them up and/or to support a

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-24 Thread james demer
My friend picked up a Listeroid lister (Indian made lister) 12hp and a 7.5kw generator. It cost him less than 2 grand new. It is great for a few reasons; it has a 24/7 duty cycle, it runs at 600 rpm (muffled properly it is quiet), it runs on veggie oil, and it looks cool. James Demer On 1/24/06,

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-24 Thread David Miller
Paul S Cantrell wrote: Mark, I agree that a 50 kVA genset is overkill unless you live in a mansion, BUT you can check with your local utility (Reliant? or Coop?) about Net Metering. Since your meter would run backward, you could 'store' power into the grid when you run it and pull power

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-24 Thread John Mullan
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator,input appreciated My friend picked up a Listeroid lister (Indian made lister) 12hp and a 7.5kw generator. It cost him less than 2 grand new. It is great for a few reasons; it has a 24/7 duty cycle

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-24 Thread Zeke Yewdall
You are right David. Induction generators are essentially the same as AC induction motors.On 1/24/06, David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Paul S Cantrell wrote: Mark, I agree that a 50 kVA genset is overkill unless you live in a mansion, BUT you can check with your local utility (Reliant? or

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-21 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I don't know about that model of Isuzu engine, but their little truck engines are good, so I would tend to think it's a good engine. A direct injection engine isn't quite as good for straight veggie oil, but will run on biodiesel fine. The capacity seems a little high to me. The problem is that

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-21 Thread Diego Aguilera
Surfing on the net it is possible to find small residential diesel generators, rated 5.5kW for continuous operationfor $3.000 or less (new). So maybe that's a good option to look at. Cheers! Diego On 1/21/06, Mark Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Input will be greatly appreciated.I have been

Re: [Biofuel] considering a purchase of a diesel home generator, input appreciated

2006-01-21 Thread ufdaland
Mark, in Houston. 50 to 100 kw is alot more than you would need for the average home generator . 4 to 10 would be more realistic. Jerry Northern Wi. On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:39:42 -0600 Mark Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been considering a purchase of a home