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EERE NETWORK NEWS -- May 21, 2003
A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE)
Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE).
http://www.eere.energy.gov/
Eat the State! Vol. 7, Issue #19 21 May 03
It's About (Mexico's) Oil
A majority of Mexicans believe the United States invaded Iraq simply
to acquire its valuable oil reserves. They are also beginning to
suspect that the powers that run America have designs on Mexico's oil
as well.
As the
http://ens-news.com/ens/may2003/2003-05-20-09.asp
FedEx Rolls Out Hybrid Delivery Vehicle
WASHINGTON, DC, May 20, 2003 (ENS) - Global shipping giant FedEx,
along with Environmental Defense and the Eaton Corporation, has
unveiled a low-emission, hybrid electric powered delivery vehicle
that
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20852/story.htm
US wind power, with tax help, could grow faster
USA: May 21, 2003
NEW YORK - Wind power in the United States could grow at levels
closer to global rates if the government approved a smoother tax
credit first enacted in 1994,
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20847/story.htm
Toyota to recall fuel cell cars due to tank glitch
JAPAN: May 21, 2003
TOKYO - In a setback to advancing fuel-cell vehicle (FCV) technology,
Toyota Motor Corp said yesterday it would recall all six of its
hydrogen-powered
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20848/story.htm
Delight and dismay as Tokyo tightens diesel rules
JAPAN: May 21, 2003
TOKYO - Shoichi Hatsuyama pulls the oxygen tube from his face and
struggles for breath as he tugs on a pair of socks and a jacket for
yet another trip to
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20857/story.htm
Caltex begins Australian ethanol fuel trial
AUSTRALIA: May 21, 2003
SYDNEY - Oil major Caltex Australia Ltd (CTX.AX) yesterday announced
a trial use of ethanol in petrol after an earlier effort to introduce
the fuel additive
That's fine, I'm not talking about logging out a area, it's just that something
needs to be done, not just sit around and talk about it, while things burn. To
much fuel, in the forest, is to much fuel. Something needs to be done, even is
it is a tree lotto, X% of trees in a size catagoy
On Wed, 21 May 2003 05:21 am, kirk wrote:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. If we only judge information on
how politically correct the source is then we may as well join the crowd
and burn the heretics at the stake.
yes, I agree. but only twice a day. You wouldn't, for instance, use
On Tue, 20 May 2003 11:44 pm, Appal Energy wrote:
The only place that we've ever achieved a white precipitate is in the wash
cycle. This has (or had) been tentatively calculated to be a metal stearate
(potassium or sodium) due to it's appearance after the introduction of the
caustic(s) and
I just recently started driving from Worcester, MA to Groton, CT everyday
for a new job and was wondering if there is anyone in CT along the 395 area
that would be up to meeting with me and showing me their bio-diesel or wvo
setup.
Thanks
Jason A. Kunst
CCNP, MCSE
Micro-Monkey Consulting
On Wed, 21 May 2003 09:30 am, Ackland, Tony (CALNZAS) wrote:
NEW DISTILLERS Frequently Asked Questions (Feb'03)
snip
3) Will it make me blind ?
Not if you're careful. This pervasive question is due to moonshine lore,
which abounds with myths of blindness, but few actual documented
All great ideas. The simple one I made has a manifold at the top and bottom,
with only 4 4 foot long abs pipes conecting them. I tested it one day just
coverd with plastic and nothing attached. The result I got was encouraging,
70 deg in the bottom and 140 deg out the top. This can very easily
Spent part of the morning out at our nice new big 'experimental' site (Team
Canola, a not-very-official 'coop' of sorts), installed our first shiny new
over-
feature-ified 110 gallon processor, Yay!
anyway it was blazing hot out there, just a few miles inland and it's about 10
degrees
Hello Kim
hey keith...you're one really smart guy so why reaffirm someone
I didn't. Kris has his own argument with Paul. I agreed with Kris
about unsupported opinionating, and that it's not a good idea to take
on the moderator's role (though not with how he put it). My message
was to point
Well, Jack asked a big question about co-ops, and I feel a little overwhelmed
trying to answer it.
the biodiesel co-op 'movement' is growing very rapidly, I keep hearing about
people wanting to start these things all over the place.
Ive been in three of them now I guess. One is a year and a
Very good MM!
regards
Keith
The language in the tax cut bill would allow business owners to
deduct up to $100,000 cost of a new, large-size SUV in just one year.
I want to briefly address myself to what strikes me about this, and
the objections raised to it by various groups, particularly
Mark writes:
So I'm curious about steam and have a very basic question
about it, in the application that Ken describes: Why is steam
used for this application rather than hot water like I'm
planning? is it because one can heat steam much hotter?
Exactly. The rate at which energy can be
I just realized that it sounds really mean for me to a) talk about how the
Portland coop is recruiting and talking to reporters, without having actually
made fuel yet, and tob) at the same time be tooting my own horn on a list
about the grand plans of Team Canola, who hasn't made fuel at it's
MM and Keith,
I find the subsidiaries completely in line with the ideology
of the current US administration and majority. It is a
certain logic to it and they are efficient.
In other places they call it corruption. Not much to talk about,
they are in charge and have the blessing of the
Do not forget that steam in many applications is used for
its energy storage capacity, not necessarily temperature.
Hakan
At 02:03 AM 5/21/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Mark writes:
So I'm curious about steam and have a very basic question
about it, in the application that Ken describes: Why
Hi Paul
No, the precipitate also forms in the bio-diesel.
Once my camera is charged I'll send over a photo
of what I have here.
Mark
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I've got a decent list written up of things that HAVE worked well at the
berkeley
co-op, and I will try and write it up as a counter to the rather negative post
I put
out. It's really a very big deal to me that information about how these things
have worked, and have not worked, be made
Hi girl_mark_fire
The material initially settles out into ME and
black glycerol. After the mixture has cool, a
white crystaline (?) material precipitates down
onto the glycerol. I have seen this a few times
now. When I take photos I'll send them out to you
all.
Regards
Mark
That's a really good idea! Some of the mistakes I've read about on this
biofuels group seem to be repeated and a well written and more formally
written, rather than the typical informal
line-of-consciousness-writing-style that often goes on here, would go
a long way toward avoiding the
MM and Keith,
I find the subsidiaries completely in line with the ideology
of the current US administration and majority. It is a
certain logic to it and they are efficient.
In other places they call it corruption. Not much to talk about,
they are in charge and have the blessing of the American
Keith,
It has gone so far, that I can not stand to hear
G. W. Bush talk on TV, without getting upset. I
learned to turned it off now.
In three years, he managed to wipe out the efforts of
one generation, to leave something more sustainable
to future generations. Deficits, environment and other
Thanks for the input Keith!! It's been nice finding a more living
resource that responds positively :) I've put some more
comments/ideas/questions inline below...
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Detrick
Aren't you confusing SVO/WVO with biodiesel? With biodiesel, the
situation with the EPA
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Paul,
The precipitate appears in products of both SVO WVO origin.
Physical appearance is along the lines of a fine goat cheese. But even
that's a bit tough to guestimate accurately unless we were to use a solvent
to remove the dampness imparted by the esters. Final product may be quite
Hi Hakan
Keith,
It has gone so far, that I can not stand to hear
G. W. Bush talk on TV, without getting upset. I
learned to turned it off now.
Never watch the horrible thing (other than the occasional video), so
I've never heard him talk - lucky me!
In three years, he managed to wipe out the
Doesn't look like it would be terribly hard to try out. Procuring the
electrodes prob the only difficult bit. Wonder if the filament from a burned
out 500W lightbulb would do for the tungsten one.
Kirk
-Original Message-
From: robert luis rabello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday,
I would bet a TIG welding electrode would work, it would be a lot stronger.
Greg H.
---Original Message---
From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05/21/03 08:48 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Gardner Watts breakthrough discovery
Doesn't look like it would be
On Wed, 21 May 2003 23:27:21 +0900, you wrote:
Hi Hakan
Keith,
It has gone so far, that I can not stand to hear
G. W. Bush talk on TV, without getting upset. I
learned to turned it off now.
Never watch the horrible thing (other than the occasional video), so
I've never heard him talk - lucky
Keith,
I am beginning to think that ASTM tested and approved small production
biodiesel is sort of like Bigfoot. Many sightings but no evidence. I aim to
change that.
My project with the City of Eufaula (pronounced you falla) will change that
soon. Since the goal is to produce fuel for
It seems to be part of a concerted and, as you say, efficient effort
not just to steer more profit to the auto companies (and perhaps save
them development costs), or not even primarily that, but to burn the
maximum possible amount of fossil fuel to swell the coffers of the
oil companies, and
Hi Jason-
I don't know of anybody that actually makes BD here in CT. Jim Burke in
Southington does have a bulk-buy co-op ( http://ctbiodzl.freeshell.org/
) if you want to go that route. From what I can tell, CT does have has a
very active TDI mod scene that has technical and social
Sounds like a great project!
Two comments:
1) If you dig around on the internet you may run acroww Ian
discussin his processor somewhere- and I read once that he ttried
out the 'do everything' function as describe4d on his website and
JtF only a few times, before decioding to use a separate
Sounds like a great project!
Two comments:
1) If you dig around on the internet you may run acroww Ian
discussin his processor somewhere- and I read once that he ttried
out the 'do everything' function as describe4d on his website and
JtF only a few times, before decioding to use a separate wash
Hi again MM
On Wed, 21 May 2003 23:27:21 +0900, you wrote:
Hi Hakan
Keith,
It has gone so far, that I can not stand to hear
G. W. Bush talk on TV, without getting upset. I
learned to turned it off now.
Never watch the horrible thing (other than the occasional video), so
I've never
Eat the State! Vol. 7, Issue #19 21 May 03
It's About (Mexico's) Oil
A majority of Mexicans believe the United States invaded Iraq simply
to acquire its valuable oil reserves. They are also beginning to
suspect that the powers that run America have designs on Mexico's oil
as well.
As the
*poink* well, that was a load of BS. no documented cases? what about the 2
or 3 dozen people killed in a single incident in China a year or so ago?
Paul - could you please give me a few more leads about what happened there ?
Of the cases I have heard of, poisoning from illict spirits has
That's fine, I'm not talking about logging out a area, it's just
that something needs to be done, not just sit around and talk about
it, while things burn. To much fuel, in the forest, is to much
fuel. Something needs to be done, even is it is a tree lotto, X% of
trees in a size catagoy
Philip J. Carroll, who oversees the Iraqi oil operation for the
Pentagon, more than hinted that Iraq might opt out of OPEC.
See below for more about Carroll.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0321/mondo1.php
Oiling the Colonial Gears
by James Ridgeway
U.S. Works Hard to Roll Back History
http://ens-news.com/ens/may2003/2003-05-20-09.asp
FedEx Rolls Out Hybrid Delivery Vehicle
WASHINGTON, DC, May 20, 2003 (ENS) - Global shipping giant FedEx,
along with Environmental Defense and the Eaton Corporation, has
unveiled a low-emission, hybrid electric powered delivery vehicle
that
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20852/story.htm
US wind power, with tax help, could grow faster
USA: May 21, 2003
NEW YORK - Wind power in the United States could grow at levels
closer to global rates if the government approved a smoother tax
credit first enacted in 1994,
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20847/story.htm
Toyota to recall fuel cell cars due to tank glitch
JAPAN: May 21, 2003
TOKYO - In a setback to advancing fuel-cell vehicle (FCV) technology,
Toyota Motor Corp said yesterday it would recall all six of its
hydrogen-powered
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20848/story.htm
Delight and dismay as Tokyo tightens diesel rules
JAPAN: May 21, 2003
TOKYO - Shoichi Hatsuyama pulls the oxygen tube from his face and
struggles for breath as he tugs on a pair of socks and a jacket for
yet another trip to
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/20857/story.htm
Caltex begins Australian ethanol fuel trial
AUSTRALIA: May 21, 2003
SYDNEY - Oil major Caltex Australia Ltd (CTX.AX) yesterday announced
a trial use of ethanol in petrol after an earlier effort to introduce
the fuel additive
Hi Tony
*poink* well, that was a load of BS. no documented cases? what about the 2
or 3 dozen people killed in a single incident in China a year or so ago?
Paul - could you please give me a few more leads about what happened there ?
Not just in China, it happens in South Asia, Southeast
Hello Bill
Thanks much for the response.
Keith,
I am beginning to think that ASTM tested and approved small production
biodiesel is sort of like Bigfoot. Many sightings but no evidence. I aim to
change that.
Oh-ho.
My project with the City of Eufaula (pronounced you falla) will change that
Hi all, I'm new to this list, I've searched the archives, but I
haven't really found any useful info on comparisons of 2-stroke oils
to a vegggie based oil.
I am a regular 2 stroke motorcycle rider, I usually use a mineral
based synthetic 2-stroke oil, but I want to go to a vegetable based
oil.
Hello again Detrick
Thanks for the input Keith!!
You're welcome. :-)
It's been nice finding a more living
resource that responds positively :) I've put some more
comments/ideas/questions inline below...
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Detrick
Aren't you confusing SVO/WVO with biodiesel?
Whoops!! I was thinking of the Touchless Processor, not Ian's!
mark
But Mark, he doesn't do the wash in the same unit, washing's in a
separate tank. And I don't think he has a website - he did have one
but told me he'd taken it down because of virus problems, some time
ago. He
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