[biofuel] Strange Off Topic Question

2004-06-05 Thread Phil Dodd
That is most likely self-explanitory, I just want to be sure...as I am looking at diesel vehicles for sale I am finding a large number of american made vehicles talking about having their engines rebuilt. When I am looking at european cars, specifically mercedes benz, I am not seeing

[biofuel] Glycol by-product Paint remover

2004-06-05 Thread biobenz
I am still in the process of building the housing for my BD processor in the form of a cabinet and as such have been painting it and like all good (?) painters I got some on my hands in the course of business, so I tried using the glycerine by-product raw from the test batches I made, even

[biofuel] Re: Diesel fire suppression

2004-06-05 Thread biobenz
I could be WAY off base here and I know you said diesel fire but then went on to say that it was for a 200L batch so that brings it out of the sphere of petro diesel and into the arena of vegetable oil - biodiesel. I did a quick Google and came up with this: Fire

[biofuel] Test batch

2004-06-05 Thread RGMTRUCK
I just did another test batch and there is something wrong. I am doing small test batches trying to make sure my measurements are correct. I have done 5 small batches and have had the same results with all. I don't understand what is wrong as I have made about 50 gallons of fuel that

[biofuel] Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans

2004-06-05 Thread biobenz
I ran this question for a condenser by my brother-in-law who did a course in refrigerants ect... and he suggested that I use aluminium tubing instead of copper as the aluminium will transfer the cold from the water quicker than copper and the condensation will happen faster and more complete.

[biofuel] Hello

2004-06-05 Thread chix0011
I am very new to the biodiesel scene and have happened upon this VERY informative website. So first, I'd like to say hello. My name is Amanda and I am doing some research into starting a small business in East TN processing and selling biodiesel to farming communities. As I said, I'm

[biofuel] Re: Sulfuric acid in the US

2004-06-05 Thread waterdreamer36
here is an online place that sells sulfuric acid www.sciencelab.com can anyone tell me the % grade of chemicals needed for the fool proof method can i use red devil drain cleaner for the sodium lye? what percent of sulfuric acid?95%-98%? what about methanol?98%? does anyone know what good

[biofuel] Help alternative fuels!

2004-06-05 Thread nevce85
In the next few days, the FSC/ETI JOBS bill will be debated in the U.S. House of Representatives. While it would be preferable to pass a new broad and comprehensive national energy bill, that seems unlikely. Therefore, the FSC/ETI JOBS bill could be used to advance alternative fuel tax

Re: [biofuel] Benz question...sorry,not biofuel related

2004-06-05 Thread Coral
I'd be definitely looking for a vacum leak (or input). Some of 'em things use vacum selenoids to shut off fuel to the injection pump. Hope this helps. cory - Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of

[biofuel] Re: Strange Off Topic Question

2004-06-05 Thread biobenz
it has been explained to me that the Chevy truck, in particular it's 6.2 liter diesel is a conversion from it's gas enginehmmm And as far as the Benz's go, it has also been explained to me that the design is like that of a big rig engine, using sleeves for the pistons to run in, instead

[biofuel] Re: Test batch

2004-06-05 Thread biobenz
I am fairly new to this too, but have you checked for water in the oil? Time and again it is mentioned that if there is water in th oil the reaction with the lye won't be complete or adequate so maybe that could be it. Raise the temp of the oil to about 160F in a saucepan and see if it starts

RE: [biofuel] Methanol in UK - £20 for 25L

2004-06-05 Thread malcolm maclure
Mark, where are you getting your methanol from what spec is it. Iâm based in the NE (UK) Cheers Malcolm -Original Message- From: mark schofield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 June 2004 20:50 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Methanol in UK - £20 for 25L *

Re: [biofuel] Test batch

2004-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
I just did another test batch and there is something wrong. I am doing small test batches trying to make sure my measurements are correct. I have done 5 small batches and have had the same results with all. I don't understand what is wrong as I have made about 50 gallons of fuel that came

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans

2004-06-05 Thread Art Krenzel
Luc, You might check with your brother-in-law again because I think you have the heat transfer coefficients of aluminum and copper reversed. Typically, copper has about twice the heat transfer capability per inch of thickness than aluminum. There are quite a variety of aluminum grades and

[biofuel] Re: Cost of Methanol in US

2004-06-05 Thread ibedonc
here in Central Texas I get mine from a Race Fuel Supplier and he gets his in tank truck loads and it is %99.? grade , he is known for his fuel because the race cars run faster on his , he told be that some of the stuff that some suppliers sell is used , and they use it to dry the tanker ships ,

Re: [biofuel] Test batch

2004-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Rick, Go to your kitchen and take some of the vegetable oil from your pantry and run a sample. Do everything the same as you did with the WVO. If the same thing happens you know it's not your oil that's the problem. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans

2004-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Luc, Aluminum and methanol don't mix. Stick with copper. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: biobenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:59 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans I ran this question

Re: [biofuel] Re: Strange Off Topic Question

2004-06-05 Thread robert luis rabello
biobenz wrote: it has been explained to me that the Chevy truck, in particular it's 6.2 liter diesel is a conversion from it's gas enginehmmm That is often said of the 5.7 liter Oldsmobile diesel, it simply isn't true, but it's a common misconception. The external dimensions are

RE:_[biofuel]_Methanol_in_UK_-_£20_for_25L

2004-06-05 Thread mark schofield
Malcom I believe its 99.5% or so. Do you need a drum? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Mark Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70

RE: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans

2004-06-05 Thread malcolm maclure
NaOH also attacks aluminium. Copper is easy to solder but aluminium isn't Stick with copper - the difference in conductivity, for our purposes I think, would be slight. Malcolm -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2004 03:46 To:

RE: [biofuel] Hello

2004-06-05 Thread malcolm maclure
Amanda, I'm from the UK so I can't really advise on the funding situation as well as some of the US guys on here, but I'm sure someone will point you in the right direction. Anyway, I wish you all the very best in what you're doing, I hope you do well. Regards Malcolm

[biofuel] 1000L of methanol - UK

2004-06-05 Thread mark schofield
Group - I will buy a 1000L IBC of methanol and sell to who ever wants to collect via chemical drums etc. Anyone who is interested should drop me a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Mark Yahoo!

[biofuel] Most Favored Nation

2004-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/most_favored_nation.php Most Favored Nation Glenn Fieldman and Khaled Galal June 04, 2004 This week marks the anniversary of the 1967 Arab Israeli war. Given that a significant portion of the current crises in the Middle East date from that conflict, it's

[biofuel] The Recipe for Oil Prices

2004-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
The Recipe for Oil Prices June 03, 2004 OPEC meets today in Beirut, but just what relationship does OPEC have to oil prices? In such a tight market, it turns out, OPEC's mutterings will have less impact than you think. In a concise, informative article, Oxford energy economist Robert Mabro

[biofuel] Climate Changed

2004-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
From the Asian perspective, today is the day after tomorrow. Climate change is the great amplifier, making already-significant problems in fresh water, public health and agriculture disastrous. When a Greenpeace activist can quote stodgy re-insurance companies' assessments on the economic

[biofuel] condenser

2004-06-05 Thread Steve
down and dirty condenser... go to your local hardware store.. get 50 feet of 3/8 in copper tubing.. in a roll. get a 5 gallon bucket sheetrock or paint. put coil into bucket... obviously dont put the ends in.. not easy to fill them or drain them if you do :) fill with ice water promise

[biofuel] Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans

2004-06-05 Thread biobenz
Thanks Todd et all for setting me straight. The BIL (brother-in-law) is very well meaning, although intentions do not mke someone correct huh? Here's an intresting twist on the original copper issue; would it be easier to use the soft copper that is more maliable than the rigid copper tubing

[biofuel] Re: Strange Off Topic Question - Robert

2004-06-05 Thread biobenz
Thanks Robert, I knew there were knowledgeable people here, ha! I still think my 20 year old 240D Benz is going to outlive your Ford but then that is a matter of preference :) And even if does dump it's body for some reason the engine ect is coming out in prevision of making it an awesome

[biofuel] Biodiesel in non-diesel engines

2004-06-05 Thread gregg2560
Hello, I am new to this group have an interest in using biodiesel fuel,however, none of my vehicles has a diesel engine. The closest thing I have is the 3.3L V6 engine in my mini van that will run on E-85. Can biodiesel be used by adding it to the gas or am I just S.O.L.??? Any help will

[biofuel] climate changes

2004-06-05 Thread Kim Garth Travis
This is something I have been watching for a few years now, but I don't completely understand what exactly is being predicted. My understanding to date is: The earth for now is getting hotter and melting the polar ice caps. This is releasing tons of cold fresh water into our oceans and this

RE: [biofuel] climate changes

2004-06-05 Thread Hunt, Adam
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[biofuel] Biodiesel and beyond

2004-06-05 Thread spamkiller111
I'm sure that most of you know, but for those who do not, please go to this Link by Mother Earth for Bio-Diesel and Methanol/Ethanol home production...explains it all. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--

RE: [biofuel] climate changes

2004-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
Interesting how the term has changed from Global warming to Climate change, at least in the US. That was partly a sort of imposed euphemism by the Bush Administration, when they could bring themselves to mention it at all, when various official reports could no longer be suppressed and so on.

Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel and beyond

2004-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
spamkiller111 wrote: I'm sure that most of you know, but for those who do not, please go to this Link by Mother Earth for Bio-Diesel and Methanol/Ethanol home production...explains it all. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html Well, thankyou, but why do you say it's a Link by Mother

RE: [biofuel] Diesel fire suppression

2004-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
Thank you very much for your response Arlos. I'm new to the biofuel scene and I find it quite disturbing that fire suppression and avoidance isn't more talked about. Fire risk is a major reason for the emphasis on closed processors, also on TEFC pumps and stirrer motors. See: Hazards

[biofuel] Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans

2004-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Luc Thanks Todd et all for setting me straight. The BIL (brother-in-law) is very well meaning, although intentions do not mke someone correct huh? Here's an intresting twist on the original copper issue; would it be easier to use the soft copper that is more maliable than the rigid copper

Re: [biofuel] Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans

2004-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Luc, Soft copper, harder copper, it's really no matter. The primary issue is to make sure that the diameter is not undersized for whatever capacity your evaporator unit is. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: biobenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday,

RE: [biofuel] climate changes

2004-06-05 Thread Darryl Wagoner
The change from Global warming to climate change isn't because of some double think, but because it more accurately describes the event(s). It is also a lot scarier then the Earth warming a few degrees. I wouldn't blow off the movie so quickly. The movie does have it share of flaws mainly

[biofuel] Organic Fuel Legislation

2004-06-05 Thread John Woolsey
I am considering introducing a private members bill in Canada to make recyclable fuels not pay gas tax. By my calculations if that where done biodeisel would replace deisel overnight. With the way oil prices are going it may not take long anyway, but hurrying up the process would help a lot. So

[biofuel] Making Methanol from Glycerin ( was Re: Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol Condensor plans )

2004-06-05 Thread Greg Harbican
You know, I wasn't fully awake and definitely was not tracking correctly when I first read the subject line, but, I think that it was probably a good thing. What I read was Biodiesel Glycerin-to-Methanol ( totally missed the condenser part ), and was thinking that here was a idea that

Re: [biofuel] Methanol in UK - £20 for 25L

2004-06-05 Thread Harry Rankine
i have been offered 210 l drums for around £120 in edinburgh Harry. - Original Message - From: malcolm maclure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 1:41 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Methanol in UK - £20 for 25L Mark, where are you getting your

RE: [biofuel] climate changes

2004-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
The change from Global warming to climate change isn't because of some double think, It is, actually. But I didn't say double think, I said euphemism, quite different. but because it more accurately describes the event(s). It is also a lot scarier then the Earth warming a few degrees. The

RE: [biofuel] climate changes

2004-06-05 Thread Hakan Falk
Darryl W., Every time I see Darryl on the list, I look forward to read the posting, I have been so spoiled by thoughtful and valuable energy postings by Darryl McHone. Read this posting and wondered what happened, what a qualified HM. I suddenly discovered how much I really disconnected the