Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...? Part I. switch to biofuels.

2004-11-26 Thread william lemorande
I was under the impression that MTBE was only a small part (like 1% or less) of the 10% gasoline mixture used in cars. I know that MBTE is the bad stuff that contaminates our drinking water with as much as a few drops. But this Lemonade fix idea (actually a friend of mine named it. He says

Re: [Biofuel] Blackout sheds light on pollution theories

2004-11-26 Thread Ken Riznyk
I thought it was interesting too. For years the bigwigs have been telling us that most of the pollution comes from automobiles and not from power plants. I guess this proves what liars they are. Ken --- John Guttridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'prolly old news to those that have been paying

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Source of Enzymes for ethanol production using corn

2004-11-26 Thread aleksander . kac
I have been doing a lot of reading over the last few weeks; I would like to distil my own ethanol but have a slight problem. I live in Africa and would appreciate it if anybody can supply me with a brand name for alpha beta-amylases. Is there any alternative besides barley? Sure, corn malt.

Re: [Biofuel] 6.2 Diesel question

2004-11-26 Thread robert luis rabello
I have a 1983 Chevy Blazer with a 6.2 engine. Changed the main fuel filter but when I turn it over, nothing comes out of the engine side to the injectors Your idea to start at one end of the system and work toward the other end is a good one. Personally, I would start at the injector

[Biofuel] Ecotopia

2004-11-26 Thread MH
A Virtual Ecotopia By Kelpie Wilson t r u t h o u t | Perspective Wednesday 24 Nov 2004 http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/112504X.shtml Like many, my first thought on seeing the electoral map of November 2nd was a blue state secession. The blue left coast hanging there off of Canada

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Source of Enzymes for ethanol production using corn

2004-11-26 Thread aleksander . kac
I have been doing a lot of reading over the last few weeks; I would like to distil my own ethanol but have a slight problem. I live in Africa and would appreciate it if anybody can supply me with a brand name for alpha beta-amylases. Is there any alternative besides barley? Sure, corn malt.

Re: [Biofuel] Calculating the Solar Budget for any place

2004-11-26 Thread Tomas Juknevicius
Hi, and here I'd like to disagree :) Hakan Falk wrote: Randal, US have some great maps on this and If I remember right, the North of US have an yearly average of 5kW per sqm. Average means that you are going to have storage enough to utilize it. Which will be a difficult task. With the

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...?

2004-11-26 Thread greg wendy clare
hi hi George monbiot is a highly respected environmentalist and I don't think a rant like this is particularly constructive. Doesn't do the list much good really. More reason less aggression, you did make relevant comments in there somewhere. cheers Greg clare recycling chip oil in the deepest

[Biofuel] Censored news

2004-11-26 Thread bmolloy
Hi all, Take a look at this site. It gives all the main news stories censored by US media in the past year. Regards, Bob,. http://www.WantToKnow.info/censored2004 Project Censored specializes in covering the top news stories which were either ignored or

[Biofuel] The new frontier is beneath your feet

2004-11-26 Thread bmolloy
Further to the composting and gardening discussion, this report just arrived in from New Zealand. It vitally concerns us all. Regards, Bob. © Copyright 2004, New Zealand Herald 25.11.2004 Philippa Stevenson: Our soil microbes have had enough Put the space missions

RE: [Biofuel] Alternative Cities Footprint

2004-11-26 Thread Darren Hill
I -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MH Sent: 20 November 2004 16:59 Subject: [Biofuel] Alternative Cities Footprint SNIP A British environmental group BioRegional is being credited for laying the foundations for this novel way

Re: [Biofuel] Vertical axis wind turbines Another approach to wind

2004-11-26 Thread Arcologic
I may have fallen off the thread here-- are we still talking about th h.o.g.? I applaud the imagination of the h.o.g. developers. I'm sorry, they seem doomed to failure. Too much mass and serious doubts about the effectiveness of the design. Ernie Rogers In a message dated 11/24/04 5:58:14

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost

2004-11-26 Thread addy abslew
Hello, Jonathan, I have seen this done in the cities of Kano and Lagos. In Kano, the farmer use donkeys with a bag on rach side of to pack. There many who live mainly to supply vegetable farmers such compost using donkeys to carry it. In mynown practiser as a farmer, i have

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Keith, If decomposition to the point of useable compost is the goal it can be achieved rapidly (21-28 days) with a technique perfected in South Africa. It was fully researched some 12 years ago by Brian La Trobe, a South African waste management expert and world leader in his

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Keith and All ; Very interesting thread. I have 225 ht small wood trees that need to be cleared and composted. Will this type of material be finished in 28 days? Wood chippers are not available here and I am building my own. What size should the wood chips be (I assume this is a tradeoff

[Biofuel] CO2 and CO Biodiesel Emissions Reduction

2004-11-26 Thread Manuel del Rio
Dear All, There is many articles and studies about the reduced emissions of CO2 and CO when using biodiesel as compared to diesel emissions. Most sources document 80-100% reduction of CO2 and 50% reduction of CO. Provided the calorific energy of biodiesel is quite similar to that of normal

Re: [Biofuel] Calculating the Solar Budget for any place

2004-11-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Tomas, You are absolutely right it should have been kWh, stupid typo, since I know better. Thanks for the correction and just add the hour and everything fit. Hakan At 01:13 PM 11/25/2004, you wrote: Hi, and here I'd like to disagree :) Hakan Falk wrote: Randal, US have some great

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost

2004-11-26 Thread John P. Gochoco
was just kidding...but you know what, he's right too. Late... From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:31:59 +0900 Hi, To speed up the decomposition, you have to add

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Keith and All ; Very interesting thread. I have 225 ht small wood trees that need to be cleared and composted. Will this type of material be finished in 28 days? It depends how you do it. It could be. It depends what you want too. Along with many others, Jean Pain uses such material

[Biofuel] Re: Solar Budget Calculations

2004-11-26 Thread Randal
I've made some progress on this question. For the US, NREL has a pretty good variety of maps: HYPERLINK \l BM__tophttp://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data/nsrdb/redbook/atlas/serve. cgi Here is my rough calculation for my watershed, at @ 46 L North: 1 million acres, or 405,000 hectares. 4

Re: [Biofuel] CO2 and CO Biodiesel Emissions Reduction

2004-11-26 Thread aleksander . kac
Manuel, There is many articles and studies about the reduced emissions of CO2 and CO when using biodiesel as compared to diesel emissions. Most sources document 80-100% reduction of CO2 and 50% reduction of CO. Can be even better. Provided the calorific energy of biodiesel is quite similar to

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...? Part I. switch to biofuels.

2004-11-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Bill, I think that the ethanol mix to replace MTBE seems to be a preferred mix of 5% or 10%. More and more US states are prohibiting the use of MTBE and guess what, it is the same states that now are aggressively introducing 5 to 10% ethanol mix. Their politicians and car industries also

[Biofuel] nanotechnology

2004-11-26 Thread National Development Foundation
ETC Group News Release November 23, 2004 www.etcgroup.org ETC Group releases Down on the Farm: The Impact of Nano-Scale Technologies on Food and Agriculture The ETC Group, an international research and advocacy organisation based in Ottawa, Canada, today announces the publication of Down

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...? Part I. switch to biofuels.

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
What do you think of this, Hakan? http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sov/0302hsted/0302homested.html Homesteading Catalog Roberts, Rex. Your Engineered House. New York: M.C. Evans Company, 1964. This book can't be praised enough! Roberts is both a master builder and a master house designer; he

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...? Part I. switch to biofuels.

2004-11-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Chico, When I wrote my email, I did no see yours. When I was in Brazil, I was told that the normal mix at the pump was 28.5% and I read somewhere that this mix would be raised next year. The B2 I thought was higher, but I do not remember where I got B5 and B10 from. I read before about

[Biofuel] Devastating news ...

2004-11-26 Thread aleksander . kac
PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY DESTROYED BY FIRE Crawford, Texas-- A tragic fire this morning destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush. Both of his books have been lost. A presidential spokesman said the president was devastated, as he had almost finished colouring the second one.

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...? Part I. switch to biofuels.

2004-11-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith, I always say that with a little common sense, you will do a lot better that the architects, building and HVAC engineers. He is applying a lot of common sense, even if some of the explanations tends to get quite wild. LOL I skimmed it and had a lot of fun so far, but many of the

RE: [Biofuel] Blackout sheds light on pollution theories

2004-11-26 Thread Chris Lloyd
I thought it was interesting too. For years the bigwigs have been telling us that most of the pollution comes from automobiles and not from power plants. I guess this proves what liars they are. Ken Some experts in the UK recon that 85% of our high altitude pollution is caused by planes. We

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...? Part I. switch to biofuels.

2004-11-26 Thread FRANCISCO
_*see the answer in red. Very best fo us*_ Hakan Falk wrote: Chico, When I wrote my email, I did no see yours. When I was in Brazil, I was told that the normal mix at the pump was 28.5% and I read somewhere that this mix would be raised next year.* I understand. It started with 10%

[Biofuel] pollution theories

2004-11-26 Thread Go Hoff
On 2004-11-25 05.04, Ken Riznyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it was interesting too. For years the bigwigs have been telling us that most of the pollution comes from automobiles and not from power plants. I guess this proves what liars they are. Ken --- John Guttridge [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Keith and All ; Along with many others, Jean Pain uses such material in his system, but he wants it to stay hot all year, not just for a month. Yes I studied the web page cited and just wondered if it could be sped up from the 18 months he states. I want large amounts of compost from

Re: [Biofuel] Devastating news ...

2004-11-26 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:17 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Devastating news ... PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY DESTROYED BY FIRE Crawford, Texas-- A tragic fire this morning destroyed the personal library of President George

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...?

2004-11-26 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: greg wendy clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...? hi hi George monbiot is a highly respected environmentalist and I don't think a rant like this is

[Biofuel] Brazil B2 Biodiesel

2004-11-26 Thread MH
ENERGY-BRAZIL: Innovations to Overcome the Shortcomings of Biodiesel Mario Osava Nov 22, 2004 http://www.ipsnews.net/africa/interna.asp?idnews=26375 RIO DE JANEIRO, Nov 22 (IPS) - A frenzy of research, innovations and projects to develop biodiesel in Brazil has been dampened by the

Re: [Biofuel] Forget the Tiger, put some Mushrooms in your Tank

2004-11-26 Thread MH
Legal Eagle wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/waste/story/0,12188,1356250,00.html Thanks Luc, interesting -- 'Transport is a potential horror story for Europe,' Wiktor Raldow, head of renewable energy for the European Commission, told a bio-energy conference in Sweden last week. 'We

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread fox mulder
Source: BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4040543.stm US 'alienating' world's Muslims 25-11-04 America's Muslims have come under pressure since the 9/11 attacks The US is losing the war of ideas in the Islamic world, a Pentagon advisory panel has warned. A report by the Defence

Re: [Biofuel] US 'alienating' world's Muslims

2004-11-26 Thread fox mulder
Source: BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4040543.stm US 'alienating' world's Muslims 25-11-04 America's Muslims have come under pressure since the 9/11 attacks The US is losing the war of ideas in the Islamic world, a Pentagon advisory panel has warned. A report by the Defence

Re: [Biofuel] nanotechnology

2004-11-26 Thread Legal Eagle
site, although these guys are out there on some of this nano stuff. I met them last week end and they genuinely seem up on the subject. Caveat Emptor. http://www.nanoimpact.ca/en/accueil.php Luc - Original Message - From: National Development Foundation [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[Biofuel] personal accounts appreciated

2004-11-26 Thread lhaust
I have a project to do on home production of biofuel, so I'm wondering if anyone who has assembled their own system would mind providing me with some information on their system costs (and where they are located). Not too much detail required... Just looking for some ballpark figures.

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread subramanian D.V
Friends, I see so many of you are interested in composting for gardens and small farms. There is a method to expedite the decomposition called vermi-composting -- kind of outsourcing the job to qualified worms --. Here's a local newspaper article on that. In fact I 've read somewhere else

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Keith and All ; Along with many others, Jean Pain uses such material in his system, but he wants it to stay hot all year, not just for a month. Yes I studied the web page cited and just wondered if it could be sped up from the 18 months he states. Certainly it can, but that suited

Re: [Biofuel] nanotechnology

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
Dear Friends, Please see the following from ETC group. Do you have any idea where we all are heading to? Wih this sort of developments, Nanotech may step into energy market. Who knows. I understand already they have been doing some research. Any idea about that? Upali. Upali Magedaragamage

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
Lots about vermicomposting here: http://journeytoforever.org/compost_worm.html Vermicomposting http://journeytoforever.org/compost_wormlink.html Vermicomposting resources It won't expedite the decomposition, not if that means speed it up. It's not the same as composting, though I'd see the

Re[2]: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Keith, Friday, 26 November, 2004, 11:10:25, you wrote: ...snip... KA Wrong! NOT goats! DON'T let goats into a forest! Goats are if KA anything fertility destroyers, not fertility builders. They'd KA probably get rid of your trees one way or another, but perhaps not in KA a way you'd

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] 4 more years - Euro to oil

2004-11-26 Thread Ken Riznyk
Another concern about the dollar is that much of the US debt is held by foreign investors mainly in China and Japan. They are growing increasingly nervous as they watch the dollar plummet. When they decide to unload dubya is going to be in deep doo doo. Ken --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to

Re: [Biofuel] Forget the Tiger, put some Mushrooms in your Tank

2004-11-26 Thread Ken Riznyk
Just curious. A few years back The Mother Earth News had an article about using the bacteria clostridia thermocellum to break down cellulose into sugars and then fermenting it into alcohol. Anybody know of anyone using this process? Ken --- MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Legal Eagle wrote:

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] 4 more years - Euro to oil

2004-11-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
I assume the answer to that will be the offering of higher interest rates. Of course raising the rate will kill real estate etc. in the US. :( Kirk --- Ken Riznyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another concern about the dollar is that much of the US debt is held by foreign investors mainly in China

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Source of Enzymes for ethanol production using corn

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
Sake brewers do it a different way. Do you know about this Aleks? http://brewery.org/library/sake_MH0499.html How to Homebrew Sake http://home1.gte.net/richwebb/sakeprod.htm The Outsider's Guide to Sake Production http://brewery.org/library/sake/cover.htm The Chemistry of Sake Brewing

Re: Bible, Koran Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-26 Thread bob allen
(This may be a bit late.) I don't know about you guys but here is how I came to the realization that there is indeed a God. Silly as it may seem, I found God through science. snip Also, nothing else in the universe goes against ENTROPY but living things. In any spontaneous process,

Re: [Biofuel] Gardening and Compost (new technique)

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
Common-Sense Compost Making -- by the Quick Return Method by Maye E. Bruce, Faber Faber, London, 1946 In the 1930s and 40s, Maye Bruce developed a different way of composting to complement the Indore composting system developed by Sir Albert Howard and the complicated Bio-Dynamic composting

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel for nought ...? Part I. switch to biofuels.

2004-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hakan _*see the answer in red. Very best fo us*_ Sorry, monochrome only, no technicolor. If you look in the headers of your message you'll see this gobbledygook: Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5. The system turns html-code (or any code) into plain text or rejects it to prevent

RE: Bible, Koran Torah Thumping, not to mention other general sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-26 Thread Christopher
(This may be a bit late.) I don't know about you guys but here is how I came to the realization that there is indeed a God. Silly as it may seem, I found God through science. A philosophy professor of mine once made an analogy. I don't know if its an original but here it goes. Say you are