[biofuel] Re:Fw: International Hydrogen Drive 2004 Event!!

2004-04-24 Thread Michael
It could be a great source of public information like: 1. How much the hydrogen costs now. 2. How much more the hydrogen will cost as natural gas price goes up. 3. How little range the hydrogen gives for the same space and weight as gas or LPG. 4. How difficult handling the hydrogen fuel is.

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-24 Thread Darryl McMahon
"riored96" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is Iogen for real,or bs. > http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/04/22/sci-tech/biofuel040422 > I guess it depends what you mean by "for real". The company is real. They have at least 2 buildings here in the Ottawa area. They have had displays at several

Re: More flies with honey than vinegar (Was: RE: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator)

2004-04-24 Thread Appal Energy
No Ernest, There is no point missed. It's perfectly clear from the subject line. It's perfectly clear from your text. It was perfectly clear from Bryan's. You believe that exasperation with disinformation and the ongoing efforts of others to spread it shouldn't be expressed in an exasperated man

Re: [biofuel] OT: House of Bush, House of Saud book report

2004-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Robert >Keith Addison wrote: > > > > > > > What do you want your driving habit to support? > >This is a critical question; one that is difficult to answer because >I personally find it very hard to admit how deeply the influence of "us >versus them" runs in my veins. I was brought up

[biofuel] EERE Network News -- 04/21/04

2004-04-24 Thread keith
A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). April 21, 2004 <#news>News and Events <#6810>DOE and Brazil to Cooperate on Hydrogen Energy Research <#6811>Western Governors Call for More E

Re: [biofuel] Deserts - was Re: OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology ...

2004-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
>Keith, > >I certainly didn't mean to imply in my original post that I viewed >deserts as worthless. That was the reason for the quotation marks. >Sorry if I came off that way. > >Brian Sorry if I came off that way Brian, it wasn't aimed at you, nor at anyone really. Best Keith >--- In biof

[biofuel] Re: Re: Re: OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology or Conservation Investments

2004-04-24 Thread Michael
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Re: More flies with honey than vinegar (Was: RE: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator)

2004-04-24 Thread ernest breakfield
todd, it's clear you're missing the point; what's not clear is why. Appal Energy wrote: > Last thing I need Ernest? It's some "rocket scientist" telling me what I > have to say in order to placate/please him or her, i can't speak for Bryan, but i'm certainly not professing to be any Rocket

Re: More flies with honey than vinegar (Was: RE: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator)

2004-04-24 Thread Appal Energy
Last thing I need Ernest? It's some "rocket scientist" telling me what I have to say in order to placate/please him or her, much less the nettiquette police posting their message in acronym shorthand rather than the Queen's english. Don't care for the remarks? Don't read 'em. It gets extremely w

Re: [biofuel] Re: isopropyl alcohol - Todd

2004-04-24 Thread Appal Energy
Lot of controversy about the accuracy of meters with non-ionic solutions. If that's what you already have use it. It wouldn't hurt to back up the readings with inexpensive pH paper. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "biobenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 23, 20

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose Ethanol

2004-04-24 Thread murdoch
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 12:38:43 -0400, you wrote: >It has some factual inaccuracies, but what news story doesn't? >It's interesting nonetheless. Very interesting. I hope it's true. Genencor also has claimed to be working on this but for some reason the Iogen claims seem to be at the lead. ---

Re: [biofuel] Methanol and Sodium Hydroxide efficiant mixing method

2004-04-24 Thread Andrew Lowe
Keith Addison wrote: > Hi Paul > > You knew it eh? LOL! > > >>Kevin, >>have to agree with you that the preparation of the methoxide can be a >>dangerous step. >>There are some good methods mentioned on JTF, but most of them take time. > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#me

Re: More flies with honey than vinegar (Was: RE: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator)

2004-04-24 Thread ernest breakfield
jeeze, todd, what's rubbed *your* fur backwards today? even more 'Appal'ling' than usual!LOL i don't know why you jumped on Bryan, he had a valid point; while being to the point is admirable, as truthful and/or valuable your comments may be, behavior like you've displayed is going to get

Re: [biofuel] Deserts - was Re: OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology ...

2004-04-24 Thread Hakan Falk
Derek, The impact of depletion, in conjunction to what happened the last century is very interesting. I have gradually come to the opinion of, that the situation is much more serious than the majority of experts belive. It is probably too late for a soft detox already and the urgency to work

[biofuel] Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-24 Thread riored96
Is Iogen for real,or bs. http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/04/22/sci-tech/biofuel040422 RR. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to th

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology or Conservation Investments

2004-04-24 Thread Art Krenzel
Derek, Try this one for size: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/08/21/aus_power_020821 Art - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology or Conservation Investments

Re: [biofuel] Filtering

2004-04-24 Thread Tilapia
Yes, filtering is a big topic. You can't really filter the raw oil, unless you heat it. Initial process needs no real filtering at all, just straining. Use a cleanable 200 to 400 mesh screen, and that will be enough for a good reaction. The separation after the reaction removes most of the par

[biofuel] Re: isopropyl alcohol - Todd

2004-04-24 Thread biobenz
Muchas Gracias Todd. Puts me at ease to go ahead and give it a go. I picked up a sample (1 liter) WVO at the Chinese restaurant we go to regularly and from where I am hoping will come some of the WVO I will be using for regular processing once I get the apparatus built. So, out comes the PH me

Re: [biofuel] isopropyl alcohol

2004-04-24 Thread TAMPAPING
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Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology or Conservation Investments

2004-04-24 Thread desertstallion
Hi Art, I'm not sure of all of the intricacies of how the Saharan dust gets to the Amazon, but here is one of several sources supporting this found via a quick Google search. http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/divs/mpo/Academics/Projects/Liu.doc As you said, this is not at the crux of the discussion.

Re: [biofuel] isopropyl alcohol

2004-04-24 Thread Appal Energy
Yes. 70% will work. You should also be able to find 90% at the occassional retail outlet. Just keep an eye out for it. Don't know the though process behind the availability of either. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "biobenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 23,

Re: [biofuel] Deserts - was Re: OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology ...

2004-04-24 Thread desertstallion
Hi Hakan, I hadn't read that one yet. Thank you. I guess 'time will tell!' Certainly fossil fuels are a finite resource and we are going through them faster and faster. I guess, how soon they will be depleted depends a bit upon how optimistic one is and how far one wants to push the 'assumpti