[Biofuel] BioDiesel Tax Incentive...H.R. 4520, also known as the American JOBS Creation Act of 2004.
My apologies if this has already been posted...just saw this story on the National Biodiesel Board website ( http://www.biodiesel.org/news/taxincentive/ ) President George W. Bush today signed into law a bill containing the first biodiesel tax incentive, a provision that is expected to increase domestic energy security, reduce pollution and stimulate the economy. The American Soybean Association (ASA), the National Biodiesel Board (NBB) and biodiesel enthusiasts commended Washington leaders for passing the biodiesel tax incentive and extending the ethanol tax incentive as part of H.R. 4520, also known as the American JOBS Creation Act of 2004. This tax incentive generated strong bi-partisan support because it truly is a win for all Americans, said NBB chairman and ASA first vice president Bob Metz of South Dakota. Our nation has a direct interest in taking steps to promote renewable fuels, like ethanol and biodiesel, which lessen our dependence on foreign oil. Biodiesel has many benefits that are important to all citizens. It reduces emissions that are harmful to human health and the environment, it's nontoxic and biodegradable, and its increased production will create jobs. Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA), Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR), Congressman Kenny Hulshof (R-MO) and others championed the tax incentive. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] washing water
i have already posted a message in relation to this matter and the answers i have gotten do not suffice. i aim to bulid a biodiesel plant which would produce 1 cubice metre of biodiesel every 2 hours, which would result in the same amount of wash water being produced. What i want to know is wheather this wash water if released into a nearby stream would cause problems if it pH is neutralised, or what is the the consistency of this water. ___ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] usual quantities
After reading many posts on making my own bio-diesel I came to the conclusion it might be best to use the full package of lye rather than opening a package and then trying to seal it from moisture. What quantities do lye, Sulpheric Acid, and Methanol come in? Thanks, roger ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] old diesel engine
this is my first ever message ( Please forgive my spelling.) I have so far only used the single stage method but will in time start the two stage method. i have limited knowlage about diesel engines my first question is rebuilding a diesel engine much different to rebuilding a petrol engine ? the reason i ask is i have been offered a old diesel for testing which is said to have a blown head gasket (oil is getting into the coolant would this be a the head gasket or some other gasket or seal??.) regards Alex [ememail.gif] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] centrifuging/LG frontloaders/clothspinners
Front loaders washer/driers in one, like the smaller LG units spin at 1200 rpm, but I don't think that is what you want. In Europe, they have top loader washing machines that spin at very high speeds to get as much moister as possible out of the cloths as to make the dryers work easier, or to make the time out on the cloths line shorter for those who prefer not to use a drier at all. They even make stand alone cloth spinners alone, without a washer or dryer built into them. They also make cloth ringers, but I don't think that will help here. BTW, that LG. front loader is only 2 sq. feet in displacement, and has a sanitary cycle that will heat what normally would be water to an 'I don't know what' temperature. A sanitary one, I guess. But it is a front loader. Don't know what happens if you lay it on it's back, permanently lock the door, and enter and remove the fluids to be processed through the water feed and purge lines. You might blow the bearings, as I was told some motors are made to be lubricated while the unit is on a certain plain, and if it is not on the proper intended plain, there will be an eventual POOF! Equator makes an even smaller front load washer/drier unit, at 1.5 sq. feet. Regardless, I really don't know what the hell I'm taking about. The motor lube info I got was from Royal Sovereign, makers of rolling mini split air conditioners. It's a floor standing ac with a vinyl hose running to a separate condenser and fan, mounted in a 'box fan' like contraption. You hang this 'box fan' out the window, and close the window on the vinyl hose, which saves what little window space you have compared to a full sized ac unit. I wanted to mount the box fan condenser in a 'lying on it's side' position outside my windowsill below the sill line, instead of standing it up as one is supposed to, for the condo management did not want what looked like a box fan hanging from my windowsill, and on it's face it would not look as such, but as the tech at the Royal Sovereign parent company 'King Post' said, lay it on it's side and run it; POOF! Well, have fun burning down your house! Meanwhile, my new misery is trying to find a way to get my car to hold two barrels of B100, for it's delivery cost is way up there, at $50 a drop off, and the only way to offset that is to get two barrels instead of one. So I'm looking into a roof rack with two aero dynamic hard luggage carriers, fit with auxiliary tanks, 4 smaller tanks in the trunk; one on both sides rear of the wheel wells, in the space between the underside of the trunk lid, reaching down into the depths of the rocker panels, another under the rear self tray, spanning across the rear of the trunk, and one shaped as a spare, in, where else? The spare tire compartment under the trunk floor. These all will have to be linked by steel braided rubber hoses to the main tank, or the main tank will have to have a suction pump, hose / holster / nozzle / activator for scavenging oil from all these different cells. I will also have to install heavy duty air bag suspension supplements inside the rear coil springs to keep the rear end from dragging and grating the bumper and trunk off the car. I will then procure a space saver spare, deflate it half way, place it on the drivers seat, and use it to nurse my aching butt, which by then will really hurt, cause all this BS really burns my ass! 8-D Seriously, I'm in Bergen County, Hackensack NJ, USA, and have no place what so ever to hide a barrel of anything, so, if there is any co-op activities around here that anyone is aware of, or someone is getting the stuff delivered to their garage and wouldn't mind ordering and storing, for a fee, another barrel for someone else to help cut the delivery costs, please let me know. Thanks. Gregory ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] old diesel engine
- Original Message - From: alex burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 8:07 PM Subject: [Biofuel] old diesel engine Hello All this is my first ever message ( Please forgive my spelling.) I have so far only used the single stage method but will in time start the two stage method. i have limited knowlage about diesel engines my first question is rebuilding a diesel engine much different to rebuilding a petrol engine ? the reason i ask is i have been offered a old diesel for testing which is said to have a blown head gasket (oil is getting into the coolant would this be a the head gasket or some other gasket or seal??.) regards Alex [ememail.gif] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW Response to US Engine Warrantee using Biodeisel
I'm new to the list and this was my first posting so maybe I need to pose this a different way. I'm very interested in the potential widespread impact of biodiesel on U.S. fuel demand. The recent extension of tax credits previously enjoyed by ethanol should spur a significant increase in demand for biodiesel. Combined with no engine retrofit it becomes an easy way for mainstream people to begin to actively do something about managing their energy use. Obstacles like the VW America difference of opinion on the ASTM spec versus the German DIN spec will only hold back adoption. Getting VW to agree to the U.S. standard or improving the quality of U.S. mass produced fuel is key. They are the only passenger car manufacturer actively promoting diesel engines and have the most diesel cars on the road. The 2006 Chrysler Jeep Liberty holds some promise as it will be the first non-truck U.S. diesel delivered with a biodiesel blend (even if it's only B5). I haven't seen any releases on the Biodiesel Board website on any efforts to work with the the vehicle manufacturers to work through these issues. Has anyone heard anything on this? The best source I've found is on the NAFTC website which is also a good source for links to a variety of alternative fuel web resources. http://www.nationalafvdayodyssey.org/links/automanufacturers.htm The old guard here is still protecting the petrol dominant stance in the U.S. (assisted by an oil man at the top of course). This is disconcerting since I'm used to a more innovation oriented push. The U.S. is so far behind the curve compared to what's been achieved in Europe. With accelerating demand for oil worldwide (China especially) economics will take over and continue to drive up prices. An energy conservation oriented mindset must somehow take hold. The excessive waste of energy in the U.S. is beyond comprehension. Something has to give and biodiesel combined with conservation is a good place to start. Mike - Original Message - From: Michael Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: [Biofuel] VW Response to US Engine Warrantee using Biodeisel I submitted the following to VW and recieved the expected response. Unless you're sipping from a European biodiesel pump the US engine warrantee is considered void. Sounds like there's lots of work to be done to win them over to the ASTM spec. Is there really that much of a difference between the German DIN V 51606 standard versus ASTM D-6751? Sounds like I should reconsider and look for an older Jetta TDI VW Customer Service, I am considering purchasing a 2005 Passat TDI. I would like to use B20 diesel fuel (20% biodiesel as an additive with 80% petrol diesel). Does using this fuel have any affect on the powertrain warranty? I may also consider eventually running on B100 (100% biodiesel). I understand that these fuel types are in widespread use today in Germany. Thank you in advance for you help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Product Information Dear Michael, Thank you for visiting the Volkswagen Web site. We appreciate your inquiry on Volkswagen's position on using biodiesel fuel. B100 stands for 100% biodiesel. It is a diesel fuel derived from biomass feedstock such as soybeans. It can be blended with regular diesel fuel (B20 = 20% biodiesel/80% regular diesel, for example). In Europe our diesel engines are certified to operate any blend of the biodiesel that is available in Europe. European biodiesel is different than biodiesel in the U.S. since it is produced from different feedstock (the rapeseed plant versus the soy plant). Our parent company does not agree with the specifications for biodiesel in the U.S. and does not recommend its use in any percentage. Using biodiesel will invalidate our warranty. If you have any further questions or concerns, please contact Volkswagen Customer Care at 800-822-8987. Thank you for your submission. Kyle Volktalk ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Some Brazilian ethanol factsl
Hi I would request you to please mail me reuters report on present and future of Brazilian Ethanol Industry as well as Emberaers release on their Ethanol powered Aircraft. Regards, sumer c jain CONTACTOS MUNDIALES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear William and all. The Brazilian ethanol output in 2003 was 14,000,000,000 liters = 3,703,000,000 US gallons US production for the same year was 12,000,000,000 3,174,000,000 Other notes on Ethanol in Brazil: * There are over 4 million cars that use 100% ethanol in their engines * Ethanol-gasoline blends start at around 25% * EMBRAER, the largest domestic airplanes manufacturer, will release in about four months their model Ipanema that will use ethanol aviation fuel, with the following consequences: 5% power increase, increased climb rate, speed and altitude, lower engine maintenance costs, lower emissions (of course), 66% lower fuel costs. (Source: EMBRAER Press Release) * In Brazil ethanol is produced from Blackstrap molasses as well as from sugar cane juice * The sugar cane productivity is 80 Metric Tons/Hectare/Year. This agricultural yield is equivalent to some 6,500 liters ethanol/Hectare/year. * The current area planted with cane for sugar and ethanol production is around 4.9 million Hectares. There is a recent report by Reuters on the present and future of the Brazilian ethanol industry, which I will be happy to mail upon request, as well as the EMBRAER release on their ethanol-powered Ipanema.aircraft. There is a lot to learn from the Brazilian huge ethanol experiment wich they started more than 30 yeasr ago!. May all of you have a very nice Sunday, Luis R. Calzadilla Contactos Mundiales [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: william lemorande To: Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Forget the Tiger, put some Mushrooms in your Tank ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Some Brazilian ethanol factsl
Luis, I am very interested in the report also and if you find it useful, I can publish it on our site for download by other interested parties. If you also could write a short commentary to it and if it is legal to offer the report to the public, I am very interested in offering it to a wider public also. As everybody are aware of, I find the Brazilian activities in the biofuel field very important and also the knowledge base that is built during the last 30+ years. Giving it as much publicity as possible and to learn from them, must be of global interest. It is also an important recognition of the experiences and support for all parties involved. I belive that a marketing of Brazilian technology is not only good for Brazil, but also for the global community and everybody that supports the wider use of biofuels. The value of Brazil's experiences and knowledge cannot be over rated and if I can be of help, it would make me happy. Hakan At 08:00 AM 11/30/2004, you wrote: Hi I would request you to please mail me reuters report on present and future of Brazilian Ethanol Industry as well as Emberaers release on their Ethanol powered Aircraft. Regards, sumer c jain CONTACTOS MUNDIALES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear William and all. The Brazilian ethanol output in 2003 was 14,000,000,000 liters = 3,703,000,000 US gallons US production for the same year was 12,000,000,000 3,174,000,000 Other notes on Ethanol in Brazil: * There are over 4 million cars that use 100% ethanol in their engines * Ethanol-gasoline blends start at around 25% * EMBRAER, the largest domestic airplanes manufacturer, will release in about four months their model Ipanema that will use ethanol aviation fuel, with the following consequences: 5% power increase, increased climb rate, speed and altitude, lower engine maintenance costs, lower emissions (of course), 66% lower fuel costs. (Source: EMBRAER Press Release) * In Brazil ethanol is produced from Blackstrap molasses as well as from sugar cane juice * The sugar cane productivity is 80 Metric Tons/Hectare/Year. This agricultural yield is equivalent to some 6,500 liters ethanol/Hectare/year. * The current area planted with cane for sugar and ethanol production is around 4.9 million Hectares. There is a recent report by Reuters on the present and future of the Brazilian ethanol industry, which I will be happy to mail upon request, as well as the EMBRAER release on their ethanol-powered Ipanema.aircraft. There is a lot to learn from the Brazilian huge ethanol experiment wich they started more than 30 yeasr ago!. May all of you have a very nice Sunday, Luis R. Calzadilla Contactos Mundiales [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: william lemorande To: Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Forget the Tiger, put some Mushrooms in your Tank ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] old diesel engine
The head gasket is a definite possibility, and I would think with many engines the most likely one. It's also possible for a cracked head or block to do that, or a warped head. But those are luckily much less common. And I know that on our Vanagon diesel there's an oil cooler that uses engine coolant to cool the oil. When it goes bad it lets oil into the coolant. So there are some different possibilities. Could be I haven't even thought of all of them. Good luck, Erik --- alex burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All this is my first ever message ( Please forgive my spelling.) I have so far only used the single stage method but will in time start the two stage method. i have limited knowlage about diesel engines my first question is rebuilding a diesel engine much different to rebuilding a petrol engine ? the reason i ask is i have been offered a old diesel for testing which is said to have a blown head gasket (oil is getting into the coolant would this be a the head gasket or some other gasket or seal??.) regards Alex [ememail.gif] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] GTL
Dear Fellows: I will appreciate any information, links, regarding GTL (gas to liquids) processes and technology to obtain diesel and gasoline from Natural Gas. Thank you in advance. Jose L. Hernandez Bolivia South America ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] washing water
Direct release into a stream is ill advised, no matter what it is that you're processing. Better for you to apply it as gray water irrigation upsight from any drainage and let the soils filter it further, all the while getting some utility out of both the large volume of water and any contaminants it holds. You'll want to do several things prior to release. 1) Use potassium hydroxide as your catalyst to reduce problems in later co-product treatment/disposal. 2) Use a process that produces the highest conversion rates so as to reduce the amount of soap that might end up in a wash. Acid/base is recommended. 3) Allow as long a period as possible to let the glycerol cocktail settle out after the transesterification stage. Twenty-four hours in a well insulated tank to maintain an elevated temp is not unreasonable. 4) Pass the biodiesel fraction through an evaporator/distillation process prior to washing to remove the majority of the residual methanol. Pot distillation is not sufficient. These steps will reduce the amount of contaminants that are introduced into the wash water. From there you'll need to pursue treatment steps that remove the soap. The easiest is to introduce magnesium or aluminum sulfate, which will convert the soluble soaps to insoluble greases and permit their removal. The next stage would be to precipitate the potassium or sodium sulfate if the level is too high for soils to absorb in a sustainable fashion (bio-accumulation / bio-loading). Realize that some soils can benfit from the potassium and/or sulfate. You'll need to become familiar with the soils around your facility and what their needs are. You may also need to orchestrate the planting of specific plants/crops that can achieve a maximum uptake of whatever nutrients you place on the soils. This will further reduce the possiblity of bio-loading and run-off into any drainage/hydrology. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: tommy newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: [Biofuel] washing water i have already posted a message in relation to this matter and the answers i have gotten do not suffice. i aim to bulid a biodiesel plant which would produce 1 cubice metre of biodiesel every 2 hours, which would result in the same amount of wash water being produced. What i want to know is wheather this wash water if released into a nearby stream would cause problems if it pH is neutralised, or what is the the consistency of this water. ___ Win a castle for NYE with your mates and Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] washing water
This is a much avoided question but central to the longterm viability of a process. I don't have the answer but know that the water would probably be considered a hazardous waste because of its alcohol content. Don't know what to do about it but somebody must have had wash water tested for contaminents. I'm not really surprised that folks don't want to talk about it. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] old diesel engine
Depends on the engine.My diesel engine is a 20 yr old Toyota 3B ( V4 ), not common in the US, but in most cases plenty of parts are still available from Canada and a few specialty places here in the US.Shop manual is available online as well. Greg H. - Original Message - From: alex burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 21:07 Subject: [Biofuel] old diesel engine Hello All this is my first ever message ( Please forgive my spelling.) I have so far only used the single stage method but will in time start the two stage method. i have limited knowlage about diesel engines my first question is rebuilding a diesel engine much different to rebuilding a petrol engine ? the reason i ask is i have been offered a old diesel for testing which is said to have a blown head gasket (oil is getting into the coolant would this be a the head gasket or some other gasket or seal??.) regards Alex [ememail.gif] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] GTL
Jose, I have some contacts for you. While working at a large energy company one of my buddies worked on GTL plants. I will see if I can get a hold of him. Remember that GTL is not the only answer and very large investement is required in infrastructure, capital investment, and energy streams. I am sure there are others on this blog (Keith?) who can assist you too. P. WOlfe --- Jose Luis Hernandez Quisbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Fellows: I will appreciate any information, links, regarding GTL (gas to liquids) processes and technology to obtain diesel and gasoline from Natural Gas. Thank you in advance. Jose L. Hernandez Bolivia South America ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] washing water
viability of a process. I don't have the answer but know that the water would probably be considered a hazardous waste because of its alcohol content. Don't know what to do about it but somebody must have had wash water tested for contaminents. I'm not really surprised that folks don't want to talk about it. Don't want to talk about it? Tell you who talks about it: the Biofuel list archives does. Lots! Including the answer(s) you don't have. Check it out. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Information Archive at NNYTech Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] washing water
i have already posted a message in relation to this matter Three times before this one, all of them similar. and the answers i have gotten do not suffice. All your questions were answered, the last time along with those of another member asking similar questions around the same time. That you still keep asking seems to indicate that it might be your attention level that does not suffice. The responses are here: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041108/thread.html#2634 http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041108/thread.html#2838 i aim to bulid a biodiesel plant which would produce 1 cubice metre of biodiesel every 2 hours, which would result in the same amount of wash water being produced. What i want to know is wheather this wash water if released into a nearby stream would cause problems if it pH is neutralised, or what is the the consistency of this water. Well, Todd's answered you again now (hopefully you'll see it this time), but he's said it before - it's worth saying again, but didn't you check the archives for the information you want? After all, a million-litre per year biodiesel plant such as you're proposing is obviously a commercial operation, normally you should be expecting to pay megabucks in consultancy fees for the information you're getting here for nothing, and it's probably better info anyway, but you can't even be bothered to look properly? Keith Addison List owner Do your homework. It's often said that one's favorite deity helps those who helps themselves. The truth in that statement depends on the faith of the reader, but what is true is that regulars on most groups are much more interested in helping people who have first exhausted their own resources. For one, those're usually the questions that're more interesting, the puzzles that're more challenging to solve. If it looks like it could be a hard problem, it also shows that there can be active cooperation with the person with the problem-a vital requirement to solving anything difficult. If it's an easy problem but the person asking it tried hard and is still stumped, nearly everybody will have sympathy. Everybody knows what it's like to have given something your all, only to fail until somebody else gave a helping hand. If, on the other hand, it's an easy problem that could have been answered with a minimum amount of effortÉwell, it's just a waste of everybody's time. The person who asked the question could have gotten the answer in a fraction of the time it'll take to get a reply from the group. The note adds to the omnipresent clutter and noise in the electronic world, wasting a minute of time from hundreds of people. And it often gets people's hackles up, which sometimes results in heated arguments, further wasting people's time and energy. But the biggest reason for doing your homework before you post is that you'll almost always find the answer yourself. People-you included-learn much better when they come to the answer through their own means; having somebody dictate the solution won't really make it stick. There's an excellent chance that you'll also discover something else useful along the way. Even if not, you'll get better skilled at research. -- From: Netiquette http://www.trumpetpower.com/Rants/Netiquette ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] VW Response to US Engine Warrantee using Biodeisel
Hello Mike, I will keep my response short, as I don't have a whole lot to add. An oil man at the top wouldn't be such a disconcerting thing, provided that oil man also had the capacity to lead a nation. I have been voting against Bush for years though, so admittedly I am completely biased. I would like to reassure you that the innovative push does still exist, it is simply coming from a different direction and, currently, not quite as easily seen. To my way of thinking, this might be for the best. First, you have found a resource, in this list, that I'm sure will surprise you. There are some very knowledgeable members here, current writer excluded of course, who are very generous with both their data as well as their experience(s). Secondly, this is still America. I am not going crank my old sunshine pump, however, I will say that for all her faults, there is still a vast majority of souls out here yet to be heard from. So, no matter what these corporations do, or which fuel auto makers attempt to force us to use, or what fuel big oil pedals, there are those of us out here that will do our best to educate ourselves and make up our minds based on that education. Good luck Mike. Anti-Fossil. - Original Message - From: Michael Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Response to US Engine Warrantee using Biodeisel I'm new to the list and this was my first posting so maybe I need to pose this a different way. I'm very interested in the potential widespread impact of biodiesel on U.S. fuel demand. The recent extension of tax credits previously enjoyed by ethanol should spur a significant increase in demand for biodiesel. Combined with no engine retrofit it becomes an easy way for mainstream people to begin to actively do something about managing their energy use. Obstacles like the VW America difference of opinion on the ASTM spec versus the German DIN spec will only hold back adoption. Getting VW to agree to the U.S. standard or improving the quality of U.S. mass produced fuel is key. They are the only passenger car manufacturer actively promoting diesel engines and have the most diesel cars on the road. The 2006 Chrysler Jeep Liberty holds some promise as it will be the first non-truck U.S. diesel delivered with a biodiesel blend (even if it's only B5). I haven't seen any releases on the Biodiesel Board website on any efforts to work with the the vehicle manufacturers to work through these issues. Has anyone heard anything on this? The best source I've found is on the NAFTC website which is also a good source for links to a variety of alternative fuel web resources. http://www.nationalafvdayodyssey.org/links/automanufacturers.htm The old guard here is still protecting the petrol dominant stance in the U.S. (assisted by an oil man at the top of course). This is disconcerting since I'm used to a more innovation oriented push. The U.S. is so far behind the curve compared to what's been achieved in Europe. With accelerating demand for oil worldwide (China especially) economics will take over and continue to drive up prices. An energy conservation oriented mindset must somehow take hold. The excessive waste of energy in the U.S. is beyond comprehension. Something has to give and biodiesel combined with conservation is a good place to start. Mike - Original Message - From: Michael Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: [Biofuel] VW Response to US Engine Warrantee using Biodeisel I submitted the following to VW and recieved the expected response. Unless you're sipping from a European biodiesel pump the US engine warrantee is considered void. Sounds like there's lots of work to be done to win them over to the ASTM spec. Is there really that much of a difference between the German DIN V 51606 standard versus ASTM D-6751? Sounds like I should reconsider and look for an older Jetta TDI VW Customer Service, I am considering purchasing a 2005 Passat TDI. I would like to use B20 diesel fuel (20% biodiesel as an additive with 80% petrol diesel). Does using this fuel have any affect on the powertrain warranty? I may also consider eventually running on B100 (100% biodiesel). I understand that these fuel types are in widespread use today in Germany. Thank you in advance for you help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Product Information Dear Michael, Thank you for visiting the Volkswagen Web site. We appreciate your inquiry on Volkswagen's position on using biodiesel fuel. B100 stands for 100% biodiesel. It is a diesel fuel derived from biomass feedstock such as soybeans. It can be blended with regular diesel fuel (B20 = 20% biodiesel/80%
[Biofuel] solar cell doubles as battery
Solar Cell Doubles as Battery http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/04/11/rnb_112904.asp Solar Cell Doubles as Battery November 29, 2004 A practical solar energy system usually includes solar cells that convert light to electricity and batteries that store the energy for later use. Scientists from Toin University of Yokohama in Japan have designed a single, compact device that can both convert solar energy to electricity and store the electricity. We succeeded in incorporating both photovoltaic and storage functions in a single cell with a thin, sandwich-type structure, said Tsutomu Miyasaka, a researcher at the University. The researchers' photocapacitor is also efficient at capturing energy from weak light sources like sunlight on cloudy or rainy days and indoor lighting. The light-driven, self-charging capacitor could eventually be used to power portable electronic devices like phones, cameras, and PDAs, said Miyasaka. Users can just bring the device anywhere and expose it to indoor and outdoor ambient light whether they need power or not [then] release the stored electricity anytime they want, he said. Solar cells convert light to electricity by absorbing photons and using their energy to move electrons. There are two basic types of solar cells. Conventional cells are solid-state devices usually made from silicon. It is also possible to capture the energy from photons using dye molecules. The researchers' device is an electro-chemical cell made up of a pair of electrodes sandwiching a liquid electrolyte. The electrolyte contains a high concentration of ions, or atoms that carry a charge because they have gained or lost an electron. The electrodes are glass plates with metal coatings on the inside surfaces. The top electrode sports a film of titanium dioxide semiconductor nanoparticles that has pores 15 to 30 nanometers in diameter and contains ruthenium dye molecules. Both electrodes have porous inner layers of carbon particles that are about 5,000 nanometers in diameter, which is about the size of a red blood cell. The carbon layers encase the electrolyte. Dye-based solar cells use dye molecules to absorb photons, which causes negatively-charge electrons and positively-charged holes to separate in the semiconductor layer. The researchers' photocapacitor transfers these charges to the carbon layers. The electrons travel toward the bottom electrode, where they accumulate on the carbon surface near the electrolyte. A chemical reaction that restores the electrical balance of the dye also makes holes accumulate on the carbon surface of the top electrode. Electrons and holes generated by light-excited organic dye can be directly accumulated on the large surface area of the carbon layer, said Miyasaka. There are three types of silicon solar cells: those made from pure silicon, which are the most expensive and most efficient, those made from amorphous silicon, which are fairly cheap and one-quarter to one-half as efficient, and those made from polysilicon, which lie between pure silicon and amorphous silicon in expense and efficiency. Silicon solar cells reflect rather than absorb light that hits the silicon surface at angles greater than 40 degrees. Although the researchers' device is less efficient in direct sunlight than silicon, it absorbs light that hits the surface at a much broader angle, making it able to absorb diffuse light. This allows it to harvest photons in the morning, in the evening evening, on cloudy days, and from indoor lighting. While the experimentally measured highest efficiency is higher for silicon-based cells, the... practical efficiency of the cell [is]comparable with the amorphous silicon cell or surpass it, Miyasaka. The cells can also be connected to form larger, more powerful cells. Conventional capacitors that are charged using electricity can produce a voltage that is no greater than the input, or charging voltage, of one of the cells in a connected series. In contrast, the photocapacitor, like conventional batteries, can produce voltage equivalent to the collective input of photocapacitors connected in series. The researchers' prototype produces 0.7 volts. Connecting 18 cells would yield 12 volts, which is the output of a car battery, said Miyasaka. The thickness of the photocapacitor depends on the thickness of the electrodes, and could be made narrower than one millimeter, said Miyasaka. The device could be used in practical applications in two years, said Miyasaka. The researchers are working on boosting the cell's capacity and making a flexible, lightweight plastic version of the device, he said. Miyasaka's research colleague was Takurou N. Murakami. The work appeared in the October 25, 2004 issue of Applied Physics Letters. The research was funded by the Japanese Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Technology Research News
[Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion
Fighting with the growing problem of SPAM, I found out what is in most peoples mind and most at the time. As a result I have the following suggestion, Make your car happy, drive better and longer. Use biofuels. This has to be a winner! LOL Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion
Fighting with the growing problem of SP-M, I found out what is in most peoples mind and most at the time. As a result I have the following suggestion, Make your car happy, drive better and longer. Use biofuels. This has to be a winner! LOL Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] usual quantities
depends on what quantities you buy them in :) I bought red devil lye in an 510g package at the grocery store. I have located a source of 50lbs bags of the stuff at a chemical supply for when I start producing wholesale. my experience is that although the stuff is really hydrophilic (loves water) all you have to do to keep it dry in my climate (upstate NY, USA) is keep the lid on tight as much of the time as possible (don't leave it off once you are done measuring) methanol comes in 355ml (12oz) containers, 5 gallon buckets, 55 gallon drums, again, really hydrophilic, again just keep the lid on all the time when you are not actively pouring some out. haven't bought any sulphuric acid, couldn't answer that one. everyone keeps telling me though that I don't need it :) I don't think that you have to worry about using the whole package and you are likely to have to make a really large quantity in order to make all the amounts line up and get your ratios right. John rbarr8 wrote: After reading many posts on making my own bio-diesel I came to the conclusion it might be best to use the full package of lye rather than opening a package and then trying to seal it from moisture. What quantities do lye, Sulpheric Acid, and Methanol come in? Thanks, roger ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2
that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel fuel, it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler, buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,, theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how well wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink, somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone drinks it anyawya _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] SunDiesel the cleanest biofuel with enormous potential
*SunDiesel the cleanest biofuel with enormous potential* Text photos courtesy DaimlerChrysler AG edited 09-28-2004 * 20% of European fuel requirements could be covered by biofuels * Up to 200 million tons of CO2 emission in Europe could be prevented annually * France, with a diesel share of 67%, has high savings potential * Particulate emissions reduced by up to 50% The potential of synthetic biofuels is at the focus of a presentation by DaimlerChrysler at the 2004 Paris Motor Show. This is a significant element of the initiative Energy for the Future. With these Biomass-To-Liquid (BTL) fuels, which can be manufactured from any type of biomass or organic residual material, CO2 emissions in Europe could be reduced by as much as 200 million tons annually. This corresponds to half of all CO2 emissions in France, for example. The BTL fuel SunDiesel, first presented to the international public by DaimlerChrysler in 2003, can be used to power any existing diesel vehicle. Since 67% of new car registrations in France are diesels, two-thirds of all new cars could immediately be made more environment-friendly. According to our estimates, SunDiesel could cover 20% of all European fuel requirements, said Prof. Herbert Kohler, Head of the Vehicle Body and Drive Systems Directorate and Corporate Environmental Officer at DaimlerChrysler, on the occasion of the presentation at the Paris Motor Show.Our investigations carried out on the test rig have shown that there is even more potential in the interplay of BTL and the engine; following further optimisation to diesel engines, additional improvements in emissions can be expected. Biogenous fuels are largely CO2neutral. In other words, during the combustion process only that amount of carbon dioxide arises in the engine that the plants derived from the air during growth. The carbon dioxide balance is thus even, and the atmosphere is not burdened by additional CO2. The significance of BTL fuels was borne out by the EUCAR Well to Wheel study, which concluded that BTL fuels have the highest CO2 reduction potential, amounting to more than 90%; they are thus considerably superior to biodiesel from rapeseed oil, with just under 50%, which only makes use of part of the biomass. As well as helping secure fuel supplies, biogenous fuels do not release any new fossil CO2 into the atmosphere. With a possible market share of 20%, biofuels could make a significant contribution towards reducing CO2 emissions from road traffic. Whereas technical modifications to the engine are only effective in the case of commercial vehicles, BTL fuels have a positive effect in all road vehicles, since they can be used without the need for technical modifications. A first pilot project for the manufacture of SunDiesel has been initiated by DaimlerChrysler together with CHOREN in Freiberg (Saxony). Volkswagen has also joined this co-operation, in which SunDiesel is now being produced for the first time in order to sound out the advantages of this extremely clean BTL diesel fuel: it contains neither sulphur nor aromates, is odourless and can be used directly in existing vehicles without the need for modifications to the engine. Moreover, the highly pure BTL fuel synthesised in Freiberg could also reduce the emissions of particulates by as much as 50% and of carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons by 90%, without modifications to the engine. According to a proposal by the European Union from 2001, the share of biofuels in overall European fuel supplies is to be increased from the present level of just over 1% to 5.75% by 2010 and to 8% by 2020. The EU is currently working on a directive aimed at attaining a biofuel share of as much as 15% by 2020. 6% of the diesel requirements of the EU could be covered by residual materials not currently used, such as thinning wood from the forestry sector, industrial waste wood and straw or other sources of organic waste. Further potential is provided by the imminent eastern extension of the European Union. A further 14% could be attained through the use of existing pastureland, especially fallow land. The biofuels most widely used today, such as so-called biodiesel (rapeseed methyl ester = RME) and ethanol are lacking the potential to reach these EU target figures on their own. Since only the fruits of the plants can be used to produce the required oil, yields are necessarily low. DaimlerChryslers commitment together with the petroleum industry to manufacture environment-friendly designer fuels from biomass is an integral part of the Energy for the Future initiative. Under this motto, the automotive manufacturer outlines five stages along the road to sustainable mobility: 1. Optimisation of petrol and diesel engines 2. Improvements to conventional fuels 3. Use of CO2neutral BTL fuels 4. Further development of hybrid drives as an interim solution towards emission-free
[Biofuel] Jhnde the First and Only Bio Energy Village in Germany
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