Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-04 Thread Randall



Try these links:

http://www.papercrete.com/

http://www.rammedearthworks.com/

http://www.deatech.com/cobcottage/

http://www.adobebuilder.com/

http://www.earthship.org/

http://www.touchtheearthranch.com/tirestart.htm


--Randy
Charlotte, NC



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Josephine Wee 
  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
  were killed to build your home ?
  
  Ms. Nancy Canning
  
  We are interested in how one builds a house 
  with recycled tires, dirt and stucco. where canI find a website 
  showing this? \
  
  thanks.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Nancy Canning 

To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 

Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:51 
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
were killed to build your home ?

what about recycled tires. filled with 
dirt,then covered with stucco. Makes a mighty good building and 
is being used all over the southwest.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chris 
  
  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
  were killed to build your home ?
  
  I just built a utility building using the recycled steel structure by 
  Panasteel, and I didn't have to join a get-rich-quick scheme to do 
  it. 
  
  Chris KCayce, SC
  
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Subject: [Biofuel] How many trees 
were killed to build your home ?


  

  

  
  
Have you ever 
  wondered how many trees were killed to build your home ? 
  Go to this link an see how many and what you can do to 
  change that whether it be a garage or a stadium 
  ?http://customsuperhomes.com/mykI 
  would like to make that change for America, after viewing 
  the information signup to send me your information so we 
  can build it together,Myk 
  HillEnvironmental Builder Professionalhttp://customsuperhomes.com/mykPh 
   Fx: 206-600-5632PO Box 291Morrisville, 
  NC 27560


 



 



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Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-04 Thread Chris



Panasteel is a company in Savannah, GA USA, 
that buys recycled steel and makes wood frame alternative material. 
Their website is www.panasteel.com. 
I am sure that there is a company in your country that is doing the same thing 
and would be a more logical choice. I mention Panasteel because they have 
a design dimension to their business and also pre-fab sections in the 
factory. Very interesting stuff, if I were to build a house or commercial 
building I would use this material. Standard construction will withstand a 
class 3 hurricane. Plus, after going to our local Home Show in the spring, 
I found that I won a drawing for a FREE 12 x 24 structure. And I never win 
anything!

Chris KCayce, SC

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
  were killed to build your home ?
  
  To Nancy Canning:
  
  We do not live in the US. Would like to 
  know what is this panasteel or recycled steel? 
  
  thanks.
  
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Nancy Canning 

To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 

Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:51 
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
were killed to build your home ?

what about recycled tires. filled with 
dirt,then covered with stucco. Makes a mighty good building and 
is being used all over the southwest.

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
  were killed to build your home ?
  
  I just built a utility building using the recycled steel structure by 
  Panasteel, and I didn't have to join a get-rich-quick scheme to do 
  it. 
  
  Chris KCayce, SC
  
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PM
Subject: [Biofuel] How many trees 
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Have you ever 
  wondered how many trees were killed to build your home ? 
  Go to this link an see how many and what you can do to 
  change that whether it be a garage or a stadium 
  ?http://customsuperhomes.com/mykI 
  would like to make that change for America, after viewing 
  the information signup to send me your information so we 
  can build it together,Myk 
  HillEnvironmental Builder Professionalhttp://customsuperhomes.com/mykPh 
   Fx: 206-600-5632PO Box 291Morrisville, 
  NC 27560


 



 



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[Biofuel] re: Custom Superhomes questions and comments

2005-07-04 Thread
 Sorry I did not answer sooner, I was in digest mode but not right now. - Looks like the link was reposted in the replies if you could not get to it and also reposted below - CSH has spent alot of money getting a Spectra Analysis done of their (finished) product and it produced no gassoffs or radiation.* Fly ash and recycled wood from old pallets mixed with an enzyme that comes out looking like concrete, but much lighter and stronger.My take on it is that ANY home has it's hazards, you can also get concerned of mold spores behind the walls of a normal built home or the ceapage of freon gas from your AC unit, the Spectra Analysis is good for me and I certainly don't fault anyone for having their oppinion. - So far as a Ponzi-Scheme, since I have been in it for almost a year now, I do not know anyone personally who has been 
burned by them or I probably would not be with them myself.I have a dream of putting a building on a piece of land with this material that would hold a lab for alternative and enviro testing of many things, materials, Biofuels, health related areas right in between RTP, NC and The NC Zoo to have both technology access and agricultural access being that NC State is also an agricultural University along with UNC in bio-technologies. For me this is not a scheme but a dream in the making that I would like to share with you all. Happy 4th of July everyone,Myk HillEnvironmental Builder Professionalhttp://customsuperhomes.com/mykPh  Fx: 206-600-5632PO Box 291Morrisville, NC 27560
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[Biofuel] Inequality in wealth

2005-07-04 Thread Keith Addison

Inequality in wealth: Just 0.13% of the world population controlled
nearly 25% of world financial assets in 2004

by Anup Shah

Inequality in wealth: Just 0.13% of the world population controlled
nearly 25% of world financial assets in 2004.  That is, the total wealth of
the top 8.3 million people around the world rose 8.2 percent to $30.8
trillion in 2004, giving them control of nearly a quarter of the world's
financial assets.

http://globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Facts.asp#endAuthPageInfo

Consider the following poverty statistics

* Half the world -- nearly three billion people -- live on less than 
two dollars a day. source 1
* The GDP (Gross Domestic Product) of the poorest 48 nations (i.e. a 
quarter of the world's countries) is less than the wealth of the 
world's three richest people combined. source 2
* Nearly a billion people entered the 21st century unable to read a 
book or sign their names. source 3
* Less than one per cent of what the world spent every year on 
weapons was needed to put every child into school by the year 2000 
and yet it didn't happen. 4
* 51 percent of the world's 100 hundred wealthiest bodies are 
corporations. source 5
* The wealthiest nation on Earth has the widest gap between rich and 
poor of any industrialized nation. source 6
* The poorer the country, the more likely it is that debt repayments 
are being extracted directly from people who neither contracted the 
loans nor received any of the money. source 7
* 20% of the population in the developed nations, consume 86% of the 
world's goods. source 8
* The top fifth of the world's people in the richest countries enjoy 
82% of the expanding export trade and 68% of foreign direct 
investment - the bottom fifth, barely more than 1%. source 9
* In 1960, the 20% of the world's people in the richest countries had 
30 times the income of the poorest 20% - in 1997, 74 times as much. 
source 10
* An analysis of long-term trends shows the distance between the 
richest and poorest countries was about:


* 3 to 1 in 1820
* 11 to 1 in 1913
* 35 to 1 in 1950
* 44 to 1 in 1973
* 72 to 1 in 1992 source 11

* The lives of 1.7 million children will be needlessly lost this 
year [2000] because world governments have failed to reduce poverty 
levels source 12
* The developing world now spends $13 on debt repayment for every $1 
it receives in grants. source 13
* A few hundred millionaires now own as much wealth as the world's 
poorest 2.5 billion people. source 14
* The 48 poorest countries account for less than 0.4 per cent of 
global exports. source 15
* The combined wealth of the world's 200 richest people hit $1 
trillion in 1999; the combined incomes of the 582 million people 
living in the 43 least developed countries is $146 billion. source 16
* Of all human rights failures today, those in economic and social 
areas affect by far the larger number and are the most widespread 
across the world's nations and large numbers of people. source 17
* Approximately 790 million people in the developing world are still 
chronically undernourished, almost two-thirds of whom reside in Asia 
and the Pacific. source 18
* According to UNICEF, 30,000 children die each day due to poverty. 
And they die quietly in some of the poorest villages on earth, far 
removed from the scrutiny and the conscience of the world. Being meek 
and weak in life makes these dying multitudes even more invisible in 
death.


That is about 210,000 children each week, or just under 11 million 
children under five years of age, each year. source 19


* For economic growth and almost all of the other indicators, the 
last 20 years [of the current form of globalization, from 1980 - 
2000] have shown a very clear decline in progress as compared with 
the previous two decades [1960 - 1980]. For each indicator, countries 
were divided into five roughly equal groups, according to what level 
the countries had achieved by the start of the period (1960 or 1980). 
Among the findings:


* Growth: The fall in economic growth rates was most pronounced and 
across the board for all groups or countries.
* Life Expectancy: Progress in life expectancy was also reduced for 4 
out of the 5 groups of countries, with the exception of the highest 
group (life expectancy 69-76 years).
* Infant and Child Mortality: Progress in reducing infant mortality 
was also considerably slower during the period of globalization 
(1980-1998) than over the previous two decades.
* Education and literacy: Progress in education also slowed during 
the period of globalization.


source 20

* Today, across the world, 1.3 billion people live on less than one 
dollar a day; 3 billion live on under two dollars a day; 1.3 billion 
have no access to clean water; 3 billion have no access to 
sanitation; 2 billion have no access to electricity. source 21
* The richest 50 million people in Europe and North America have the 
same income as 2.7 billion poor people. The slice of the cake taken 
by 1% is the same size as 

Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?

2005-07-04 Thread Ryan Hall

Robert,

I have seen several people mention E 100 on this list lately.  I personally 
want to buy a diesel and produce bio diesel, but I drive EFI gasoline cars 
right now.  The flextek device offers great promise for me to do my part 
now without waiting until I buy my Jetta.


My question is, where do you get E100.  Is this available at the pumps, or 
is it something you would need to get elsewhere.  A city about 45 miles from 
where I live just got E85, but I have heard nothing of E100.  If I have the 
choice, I can just fill up on E85 every time I go there (usually about 1-2 
times/week.)


Thanks,
Ryan 



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[Biofuel] Will the G8 Summit reveal more broken promises or effective action on third world debt and climate change?

2005-07-04 Thread Keith Addison

Will the G8 Summit reveal more broken promises or effective action on
third world debt and climate change?

by Anup Shah
Sunday, July 03, 2005

Will the G8 Summit reveal more broken promises or effective action on
third world debt and climate change?  The G8 Summit in July 2005 looks to be
historic because of promised debt relief for some poor countries in Africa
as well as action on climate change.

But behind the media and government spin, is this really the case?

The proposed $40 billion debt write-off does not look as historic as
described, as it is attached with many harsh economic conditions that have
contributed to much of the poverty and debt woes these countries already
face.  In addition, only a few countries get this write-off, and in return,
they will get as much reduced from future aid.  The $40 billion is to be
spread over 40 years, which means it is worth about $17 billion in net
present value.  Climate change is also under discussion, but leaked drafts
have revealed an extremely watered down text that suggests limited or no
responsibility on rich countries to take leadership, and even questions the
science of climate change.  The Live 8 concerts, some of its criticisms as
well as successes, the media coverage, and more, are also discussed.

http://globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/g8summit2005.asp#endAuthPageInfo

* Do promises to alleviate third world debt mean much?
* How good has Aid from Rich Countries been in recent years?
* 100% Debt Write Off is Not for ALL the Poorest Countries;
* G8: Meet our demands or else

* Economic Conditions are the Controversial Ones
* Such conditionalities are undemocratically imposed
* Conditions That Are Less Discussed
* Conditions promote unequal trade
* If these conditions are unfair, why are they still pursued?

* $40 billion write off is not a historic breakthrough

* It is not really $40 billion but $15 in net present value
* Other costs associated with this proposal

* G8 on Climate Change

* What has third world debt got to do with climate change?
* Leaked drafts show G8 leaders not doing much about climate change

* Mainstream media coverage of the G8 buildup and Summit

* Portraying G8 Leaders as Saviors
* Bush exaggerates claims of trippling aid to Sub-Sahara Africa
* Headlines do not reveal any criticims of G8 proposals

* Live 8 and Protests

* Presenting G8 Leaders as Saviors, Not Mentioning Their Role In 
Poverty and Debt

* Live 8 Not Having Enough African Musicians
* Geldof tells artists not to criticize Bush and Blair
* Geldof's Gamble May Yet Work

* Repeating past mistakes?

* Small concessions are not the full deal; they are only the beginning


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[Biofuel] Biodiversity, agriculture and climate change, and famine as a commercial opportunity

2005-07-04 Thread Keith Addison

See also:
http://www.mindfully.org/GE/GE4/Famine-As-Commerce-Bertini6aug02.htm
Famine as commerce: Africa's tragedy DEVANDER SHARMA / AgBioIndia 6aug02



Biodiversity, agriculture and climate change, and famine as a commercial
opportunity

by Anup Shah

Biodiversity, agriculture and climate change, and famine as a commercial
opportunity.  Industrial monoculture agriculture reduces ecological and food
diversity while actually being less productive than smaller scale farming.
Climate change impacts will further reduce the resilience of crops, thus
potentially affecting food security and further increasing dependency on a
few wealthy companies and countries, which can come at an economic,
political and social cost (e.g.  lost jobs, and more hunger).  Famine has
also been used as a commercial opportunity in recent times, with an example
of Malawi being added here, whereby the IMF required the Malawi government
to sell its surplus grain in favor of foreign exchange just before a famine
struck.  Subsequent relief from some wealthy countries was given on
condition that only genetically modified food be purchased from them.

http://globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Poverty/FoodDumping/Intro.asp#end 
AuthPageInfo

Food Dumping [Aid] Maintains Poverty

* Destroying local markets; increasing hunger in the name of aid
* The impact on biodiversity and the environment
* Similar processes go on today, especially with Genetically Engineered Foods
* Famines as Commercial Opportunity


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Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-04 Thread Appal Energy

 We do not live in the US.
 Would like to know what is this panasteel or recycled steel?

Something that requires a boatload of fossil fuels to smelt, sheet and 
press.


Nice thing about renewables. They're renewable.

And to a very large they do it in a carbon neutral way without much 
interference from humans.


Todd Swearingen.



Josephine Wee wrote:


To Nancy Canning:
 
We do not live in the US.  Would like to know what is this panasteel 
or recycled steel?
 
thanks.


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home ?

what about recycled tires.  filled with dirt, then covered with
stucco.  Makes a mighty good building and is being used all over
the southwest.

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mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
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*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build
your home ?

I just built a utility building using the recycled steel
structure by Panasteel, and I didn't have to join a
get-rich-quick scheme to do it. 
 
Chris K

Cayce, SC

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your home ?

Have you ever wondered how many trees were killed to
build your home ? Go to this link an see how many and
what you can do to change that whether it be a garage
or a stadium ?

http://customsuperhomes.com/myk

I would like to make that change for America, after
viewing the information signup to send me your
information so we can build it together,


Myk Hill

Environmental Builder Professional

http://customsuperhomes.com/myk

Ph  Fx: 206-600-5632

PO Box 291
Morrisville, NC 27560



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[Biofuel] Clogged filter

2005-07-04 Thread fil_paulette

Hello everyone,

Last week, a person I known went with his truck to a local dealer for a check 
up. In there, they discover inside the diesel filter a strange mud that 
looks like a aquous phase with suspended solids in it. The mud plugged the 
fuel filter and it has to be replaced. This person used, for 2 months, B20 on 
his truck (Volvo), and he said to the local dealer that in fact he had tried 
some biodiesel in his vehicle. The dealer said to him: that's why your fuel 
filter his in bad shape, the fuel was contaminated.
To me this is nonsense since the biodiesel he used meet the EN 14214 fuel 
specifications.
I think that the origin of the strange mud, could be from the water 
acumulation in the fuel tank and lines, combined with the cleaning action of 
the biodiesel.

What do you think?


Thank you all.
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Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?

2005-07-04 Thread robert luis rabello

Ryan Hall wrote:


Robert,

I have seen several people mention E 100 on this list lately.  I 
personally want to buy a diesel and produce bio diesel, but I drive EFI 
gasoline cars right now.  The flextek device offers great promise for me 
to do my part now without waiting until I buy my Jetta.


	That's the promise.  I don't know if the technology will deliver, but 
it seems like an elegant solution to the problem of modifying EFI 
engines to run on ethanol.  Personally, I would still boost the 
compression ratio or run forced induction, as I do with my truck. 
There's no sense in running 105 octane fuel in an engine designed for 
low grade pump gas.  Nonetheless, the Flextek system should work on an 
engine that is unmodified.




My question is, where do you get E100.  Is this available at the pumps, 
or is it something you would need to get elsewhere.  A city about 45 
miles from where I live just got E85, but I have heard nothing of E100.  
If I have the choice, I can just fill up on E85 every time I go there 
(usually about 1-2 times/week.)


	Fuel stations in Brasil have been selling E 100 for many years now, 
but that would be a long way for you and I to drive for a fill up, 
don't you think?  E 85, which is available in some American states, is 
likely your best option, unless you want to get a BATF permit and 
distill your own ethanol.


I wish I could do that here in Canada!

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Re: [Biofuel] Clogged filter

2005-07-04 Thread Theo Chadzichristos
Hey don’t worry about the filters that’s exactly what is suppose to happen.
In my diesel benz I had to replace my fuel filter because they had
completely plugged up. I decided to break one of the filters open and inside
was a mushy, muddy type gunk. That’s the residue that biodiesel cleans out
of the tanks. My filter got plugged up using b100 after the first full tank
of biodiesel. Don’t forget filters are made to filter, so if they get dirty
just replace them a little more often and be happy their doing their job. No
need to be conced espically if the fuel is to spec like you stated.

Theo



Hello everyone,
Last week, a person I known went with his truck to a local dealer for a
check up. In there, they discover inside the diesel filter a strange mud
that looks like a aquous phase with suspended solids in it. The mud plugged
the fuel filter and it has to be replaced. This person used, for 2 months,
B20 on his truck (Volvo), and he said to the local dealer that in fact he
had tried some biodiesel in his vehicle. The dealer said to him: that's why
your fuel filter his in bad shape, the fuel was contaminated.To me this is
nonsense since the biodiesel he used meet the EN 14214 fuel specifications.I
think that the origin of the strange mud, could be from the water
acumulation in the fuel tank and lines, combined with the cleaning action of
the biodiesel.

What do you think?


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Re: [Biofuel] fuel efficient cars and motorcycles

2005-07-04 Thread Frantz DESPREZ

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

todd, that's awesome!  curiously, i've been pondering this very concept--a 
diesel-powered motorbike--recently.  i figured it had to have been done 
somewhere by someone.  best fo luck





More about dieselmotorcycles :
http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/diesel.htm

The US Marine Corps use Kawasaki KLR 650 modified with a diesel motor. 
The british S.A.S. would already use it in Afghanistan according to the 
Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/
http://www.moto-net.com/p_article.php?RefArticle=235 (in french)
The video of the motorcycle : 
http://www.janes.com:8080/ramgen/janescom/diesel_mc.smi
Blogs were talking about it since 2000 
(http://oasis.fortunecity.com/aspen/205/motorcycling3.htm)


A little French motorcycle maker (boccardo) made ones several years ago, 
based on Citroën motor, before disappeared. 
(http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/oldconversions.htm) But 
nowadays in Europe, it's a dutch manufacturer, Star Twin Motors in 
Loenen (niederland) who makes a sport bike running with a VW 1200cc TDI 
motor, called ThunderStar 1200 TDI.

(the whole story in French at http://binano.free.fr/viewtopic.php?t=552)
in english : 
http://www.canyonchasers.net/blog/archives/35-ThunderStar-TDI-Motorcycle.html

in Dutch : http://www.motorfreaks.nl/index.php/news/1875
http://www.startwin.com/pages/home_main.htm#

frantz




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Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-04 Thread Nancy Canning



go to Google, type in recycled tire earth home and you 
havemany of web pages, even designs for homes made from recycled tires 
filled with earth and then stucco over.It's a great energy efficient 
way to build.

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 2:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
  were killed to build your home ?
  
  Ms. Nancy Canning
  
  We are interested in how one builds a house 
  with recycled tires, dirt and stucco. where canI find a website 
  showing this? \
  
  thanks.
  
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To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 

Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:51 
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
were killed to build your home ?

what about recycled tires. filled with 
dirt,then covered with stucco. Makes a mighty good building and 
is being used all over the southwest.

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  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
  were killed to build your home ?
  
  I just built a utility building using the recycled steel structure by 
  Panasteel, and I didn't have to join a get-rich-quick scheme to do 
  it. 
  
  Chris KCayce, SC
  
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Subject: [Biofuel] How many trees 
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Have you ever 
  wondered how many trees were killed to build your home ? 
  Go to this link an see how many and what you can do to 
  change that whether it be a garage or a stadium 
  ?http://customsuperhomes.com/mykI 
  would like to make that change for America, after viewing 
  the information signup to send me your information so we 
  can build it together,Myk 
  HillEnvironmental Builder Professionalhttp://customsuperhomes.com/mykPh 
   Fx: 206-600-5632PO Box 291Morrisville, 
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Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel / turf

2005-07-04 Thread Paddy O'Reilly
Sorry - idle banter and off-topic rant about the state of diesel engines 
in Ireland.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 7/1/05 9:13:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


 hello paddy and frantz.

i didn't understand this exchange.  what's this about turf?  wold appreciate 
the education.


-chris


In a message dated 6/30/05 6:58:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Believe me, with the amount of smoke coming from some of the exhausts 

its as if the vehicles were running on turf. However that route (pardon 

the pun) is being stopped since the government environment body has put 


a stop to the erosion of the countryside by turf-cutting. 
 

just a guess, peat moss?
greg

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Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-04 Thread Frantz DESPREZ

Chris a écrit :

Wood gasification, using peat instead of wood?  (Burning the 'smoke' 
in a regular car engine.)


exactly

But Paddy was right when he objected me that it is not ecological. 
Peat-bogs are very special habitats for fauna and flora (i.e. 
carnivorous plants) and they need thousands years to regerenate. We 
should consider them as fossil carbon preserves (the future oil fields 
of Ireland ;-) ) and biodiversity preserves.
I was kidding because I worked in one turf extraction plant and the 
boss was running a furnace with it. The smell and the smoke were ... 
exotic to me. Guinness bier matched well with the smoky taste of the 
Irish stew cooked in the furnace.
Good remembers. But also, I was sorry to see how Ireland was spending 
it's natural ressources (not only peat, but also chemical pollution or 
sea overexploitation).
I hope that the Irish laws on environment protection have been improved, 
it's a so nice country.


frantz

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RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel as a rural community development project in Mozambique

2005-07-04 Thread Keith Addison

Hello Alexis


Dear Armando, Hakan, Chris, Mel, and everyone else,

Thanks for the responses received to my question. I make two tentative
conclusions:
(a) It seems biodiesel is probably more attractive than bioethanol, as far
as local production for poverty reduction is concerned.


You don't have to choose, indeed you shouldn't choose. There'll 
surely be some circumstances where bioethanol is more appropriate 
than biodiesel, for one or another reason, and there'll be other 
circumstances where both would be better.


Another option is biogas, to provide heat for processing, and as a 
useful village technology in iteself. By-products and wastes from 
fuel production help to feed the biogas unit; the biogas effluent and 
sludge is composted to provide more fertiliser for growing the 
biofuels crops.


In some situations using the mash from ethanol production as 
livestock feed can be a critical cost factor in whether the whole 
operation is economically viable or not. (The livestock manure then 
feeds the biogas unit and the compost unit.)


And so on.

A rational and sustainable energy future requires great reductions 
in energy use (currently mostly waste), great improvements in energy 
use efficiency, and, most important, decentralisation of supply to 
the small-scale or farm-scale local-economy level, along with the use 
of all ready-to-use renewable energy technologies in combination as 
the local circumstances require.


This is from a previous message:

I am mainly concerned with plant oil as fuel in developing 
countries on the basis of village technology, and in this case all 
blends of oil with alcohol or biodiesel make the system more 
complicated (oil extraction is a simple technology compared with 
alcohol destillation).


Well, I agree, but I also think there are many village situations 
where both alcohol and biodiesel are feasible. I think it's not so 
easy to find an area where distillation is unknown. All over the 
world (not just the Third World) local people make hooch - very 
often beer, but there's usually some distilling going on too. We 
hear the bad stories - 20 people killed after drinking illegal 
liquor at a village wedding party, you know what happens. I think 
however that these are a small minority of cases, most local hooch 
is well-made with no methanol. Whatever, the local technology is 
often there, and improving it, making it safer, while providing a 
useful fuel supply is no bad thing, and can provide double-use for 
local crops and/or crop wastes.


Again, with biodiesel, most or all of what's required can be locally 
available (the oil, ethanol, an easy way of drying the ethanol, KOH 
from ash, simple ways to control quantities and pH). But it all 
depends on local conditions, local requirements. I think it's as 
well to have as many options available as possible.


Keep your options open rather than deciding in advance.


(b) It seems that the local rural market may be much larger than I initially
thought, since, if the price is right, biodiesel can also be used as an
alternative for fuel in the home (cooking, lighting).


So can biogas, and so can ethanol, all the more so if the local 
community is producing it themselves from their own resources.



Any more contributions gratefully accepted! In particular, what is the
best feedstock for Mozambique? Coconut/copra, sunflower, oil-rich algae,
oil palm, jatropha? I suppose it partly depends on whether we are talking
about coastal or inland areas.


There is no best feedstock.

It just doesn't work that way. This is how it works:

http://journeytoforever.org/community.html
Community development

http://journeytoforever.org/community2.html
Community development - poverty and hunger

It's a sad fact that most development projects don't work well, if at 
all, and at worst they can do more harm than good.


A major reason for this is that no doubt very well-intentioned people 
get to thinking they're the ones who should decide what's the best 
feedstock, the best technology, the best methods, without the 
local people having any say in it, although they're the ones who'll 
be doing it, and they're the target group who're supposed to 
benefit from it.


It just doesn't work - they have to be involved at every level, 
including the decision-making level, and particularly with women's 
issues. If projects aren't done this way, it's not too cynical to say 
that perhaps the only way they'll work is in providing 
opportunities for grant-seeking, for field experience that looks good 
on a CV, for research material for a doctoral thesis, for career 
enhancement for development workers, while what happens on the ground 
is another story, with the intended benefits going in all the wrong 
directions or unforeseen side-effects somehow achieving the 
opposite of the intended results.


Working with community involvement is more difficult, and you end up 
with a bunch of different projects - the one in this valley isn't the 
same 

[Biofuel] Engine tech. Was Napier Deltic Engines

2005-07-04 Thread Joe Street




On the subject of engine technology have a look at this

http://www.limtechnology.com/Pages/concept.htm

It is a two stroke diesel design that uses cylinder porting for exhaust
but still uses valves in the cylinder head (un driven like check
valves) to intake boosted air and uses direct injection. The crank
case is not part of the intake system so it can be filled with oil as
in a conventional four stroke. It has excellent scavenging due to the
forced down flow through the cylinder during the exhaust/intake stage
and the fact that the entire valve area in the head is devoted to
intake only. It has excellent power to weight ratio and mechanical
simplicity due to lack of cam shaft and valve actuation and being
diesel requires no magnetos or ignition system. Since it has an oil
sump it does not require lubrication from the fuel as other two stroke
designs do which is a fact that makes them so offensive to the
environment. The engine is not prone to carb icing since it is a
diesel and has a wide open airway. All around this engine has so many
advantages that I want one! It would be cool to have the first
ultralight running on biodiesel!

Joe

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The Napier Deltic was based on the Junkers Jumo aircraft diesel engine
developed before World War Two. The Jumo had one bank of 6 cylinders
and two crankshafts, so the Deltic was much more economical of crankshafts
and crankcases. Apparently Napier took out a licence from Junkers before
the war and acquired the technology but didn't go into production.

The Jumo by report was suited for running at a constant throttle setting
but couldn't take the variations in power needed for most military
operations. Apparently the piston which governed the exhaust ports and the
cylinder area around it tended to get too hot. It was used in the Junkers
JU 86 bomber-transport (and in the JU 86P high altitude reconnaisance
version where the suitability of the diesel for turbosupercharging
came in extremely handy; Paul Wilkinson's "Aircraft Engines of the World"
for 1944 says it could maintain sea level power to 32,000 feet) and in
Dornier patrol flying boats.

I've read casual references to the Deltic having maintenance problems.

There is a British book on the history of Napier ("The Napier Story?")
which may have more information.

L. J. K. Setright's "Some Unusual Engines" may have something on it; my
copy is long gone and my memory is dim.

British engineering journals of the 1950's will likely have information
about the Deltic.

Before the war Napier was apparently badly managed; this caused problems
with the Sabre aircraft engine. During the war the company was taken over
by Rolls-Royce due to the need to get the Sabre in reliable service and in
production. I've read that Napier had lathes at the time that were 100
years old. After the war Napier dissipated a lot of effort on the Nomad
compound diesel aircraft engine (which never went into production or
flew in a prototype aircraft) and the Eland gas turbine propeller engine
which saw very limited but not satisfactory service, and the Naiad
helicopter gas turbine, which I don't think went into production. I get
the impression that bad management continued, at least as far as
management focus went.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada



On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Greg  Harbican wrote:

  
  
Today while researching PT boats of WW2 and their younger cousins, the PTF's of the 1960's, I came across a engine called the Napier Deltic.

I was very intrigued with the idea of a high speed 2 cycle diesel, that used opposed pistons.

http://www.ptfnasty.com/ptfDeltic.html
http://www.ptfnasty.com/ptfdelticoperation.htm
http://www.intertrader.net/ptfdeltic.htm


If I understand correctly, they may be a bit more efficient than standard diesels, but, because they were so unorthodox they are somewhat obscure.

Does anyone have any knowledge of, or first hand experience with these engines?

Greg H.


  
  
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Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-04 Thread Ken Provost
on 7/4/05 7:28 AM, Nancy Canning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 go to Google, type in recycled tire earth home and you
 have many of web pages, even designs for homes made
 from recycled tires filled with earth and then stucco
 over.  It's a great energy efficient way to build.



Ahhh, if only it were that simple. Here in California,
just building a yurt to live in while you build your
strawbale is SUCH a hassle -- the gummint wants to
tell you how to do EVERYTHING! I can't wait til it
runs outta money. Happy 4 July, 14 juillet, et tous
les autres révolutions!

-K




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[Biofuel] ASPO on the Economic near-Future

2005-07-04 Thread Ken Provost
From the latest ASPO Newsletter:

http://www.peakoil.net/


 Expect a severe downturn in the world's economy over
 the next two years as Bilderbergers try to safeguard
 the remaining oil supply by taking money out of people's
 hands. In a recession or, at worst, a depression, the
 population will be forced to dramatically cut down their
 spending habits, thus ensuring a longer supply of oil to
 the world's rich as they try to figure out what to do.



I know, your eyes glaze over when you hear anything about
the Bilderbergers :-)  Interesting idea, tho. My Dad was
poor enough in the Great Depression that hey traded with
their Polish neighbors for sauerkraut and potatoes. OTOH,
my Mom was sort of aristocracy, and the same event hardly
even broke their stride! Funny how economic downturn may
even be in the best interest of the world's richest

-K


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[Biofuel] (no subject)

2005-07-04 Thread alex burton

Hello All 
Thanks for all the advice in the past.

After a year of making Biodiesel and not being able to use it i purchased a 1994 Discovery (at the Right price )
I wanted somthing after 1996 but couldnt afford it so 1994 is it.I have checked for all the normal stuff eg cracked head ,transmission etc and it all seems ok.only some bushes have to be changed and tyres.

1. My question is about the fuel lines (what seems like hard plastic of a unknow kind )and fuel system the two pumps. Dose any one know what type of rubber is in the 1994 Landrover TDI 300 fuel system.Is it safe to use 100% Biodiesel if not what parts should i change??? 

(I am slowly introducing biodiesl at around 5---10% so far )but i dont want to go any higher till i get some advice about the fuel lines etc.I am just cleaning out the system slowly.but dont want to do any damage.

2. Also what is the effect of using a Petrol fuel filter but with a mix of Diesel/Biodiesel is it safeI am driving around with a 2nd new landrover filter incase my filter gets blocked but i havent found a in line filter for diesel so i am unsure if it is safe to us a Petrol filter.

Thanks in advance for any adviceAlex.



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Re: [Biofuel] Will Brazilian Flex Fuel Device work on American Cars?

2005-07-04 Thread Luis Eduardo Puerto


I don't know very much of E85 or E100, I know that in Brazil it is being produced in big quantities as well as in USA. I don't know where exactly you can get it in Canada. I have a question, for what type of cars is etahnol appropriate??? Can it be used with any car at all?? I know that biodiesel only suits diesel engines with no modification required, but the ethanol I don't know its implications. If anybody can explain it to me I will be glad to know. 
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Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-04 Thread Nancy Canning



What about cast earth, and how would it compare to flyash 
concrete construction? 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Randall 
  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
  were killed to build your home ?
  
  Try these links:
  
  http://www.papercrete.com/
  
  http://www.rammedearthworks.com/
  
  http://www.deatech.com/cobcottage/
  
  http://www.adobebuilder.com/
  
  http://www.earthship.org/
  
  http://www.touchtheearthranch.com/tirestart.htm
  
  
  --Randy
  Charlotte, NC
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Josephine Wee 
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 

Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:13 
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
were killed to build your home ?

Ms. Nancy Canning

We are interested in how one builds a 
house with recycled tires, dirt and stucco. where canI find a 
website showing this? \

thanks.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nancy Canning 
  
  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:51 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees 
  were killed to build your home ?
  
  what about recycled tires. filled with 
  dirt,then covered with stucco. Makes a mighty good building 
  and is being used all over the southwest.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Chris 
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 

Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:35 
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many 
trees were killed to build your home ?

I just built a utility building using the recycled steel structure 
by Panasteel, and I didn't have to join a get-rich-quick scheme to do 
it. 

Chris KCayce, SC

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 
  3:04 PM
  Subject: [Biofuel] How many trees 
  were killed to build your home ?
  
  


  

  


  Have you ever 
wondered how many trees were killed to build your home ? 
Go to this link an see how many and what you can do to 
change that whether it be a garage or a stadium 
?http://customsuperhomes.com/mykI 
would like to make that change for America, after 
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Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

2005-07-04 Thread Jerry Turner



Alex,

I would think you could find a number of 
website forums that deal strictly with the LR. If you got the owners 
manual it should give you that information. Check with a LR 
dealership??

Good luck,
Jerry

- Original Message - 
From: alex 
burton 
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Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject)


Hello All 

Thanks for 
all the advice in the past.

After a 
year of making Biodiesel and not being able to use it i purchased a 1994 
Discovery (at the Right price )
I wanted 
somthing after 1996 but couldnt afford it so 1994 is it.I have checked for all 
the normal stuff eg cracked head ,transmission etc and it all seems ok.only some 
bushes have to be changed and tyres.

1. My question is about the fuel lines 
(what seems like hard plastic of a unknow kind )and fuel system the two pumps. 
Dose any one know what type of rubber is in the 1994 Landrover TDI 300 fuel 
system.Is it safe to use 100% Biodiesel if not what parts should i change??? 


(I am 
slowly introducing biodiesl at around 5---10% so far )but i dont want to go any 
higher till i get some advice about the fuel lines etc.I am just cleaning out 
the system slowly.but dont want to do any damage.

2. Also what is the effect of using a 
Petrol fuel filter but with a mix of Diesel/Biodiesel is it safeI am driving 
around with a 2nd new landrover filter incase my filter gets blocked but i 
havent found a in line filter for diesel so i am unsure if it is safe to us a 
Petrol filter.

Thanks in 
advance for any adviceAlex.




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