Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine

2006-02-14 Thread Burak_l
Dear Elad; Greetings from Istanbul. Beside personally following up the alternative energy for past, professionally we have been doing automation of the bio diesel plants. I can try to give you some ideas on what we are doing here. Do you know what type of oil you will be using? Or better what

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine

2006-02-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Burak Dear Elad; Greetings from Istanbul. Beside personally following up the alternative energy for past, professionally we have been doing automation of the bio diesel plants. I can try to give you some ideas on what we are doing here. Do you know what type of oil you will be using? Or

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Bio-Diesel in Palestine

2006-02-14 Thread Tom Irwin
Hello Elad, Perhaps you have access to third press solvent extracted olive oil. It is probably used for other purposes but it may be available for Biodiesel. Are you planning to use ethanol or methanol as your processing alcohol? Tom Irwin From: Burak_l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: [Biofuel] So called magnetic fuel conditionersandmagnetic water treatment

2006-02-14 Thread Andres Secco
Greg, My experience is totally different and disagree with your concepts of no real proofs. There are thousands of cars, cooling towers and boilers running with magnets with very good results. Better fosil fuel yield no fouling are the reported results. Of course if someone wants to pasteurize

Re: [Biofuel] Permanent Energy Crisis

2006-02-14 Thread MH
Hey, your giving the plot away. Who in the heck drives a 50 mpg vehicle let alone considers alternative transportation. Conservation, thats the ticket. Good one, some actually do. Bring them on as the plot thickens. Sounds like things could get a little out of hand with all

[Biofuel] Who Needs More Coal?

2006-02-14 Thread Keith Addison
I liked a quote in a recent piece by Lovins: I used to work for Edwin Land, the father of Polaroid photography. Land said that invention was the sudden cessation of stupidity. He also said that people who seem to have had a new idea often have just stopped having an old idea. I keep saying

[Biofuel] America's masterplan is to force GM food on the world

2006-02-14 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1708257,00.html Comment America's masterplan is to force GM food on the world The reason the US took Europe to the WTO court was to prise open lucrative markets elsewhere John Vidal Monday February 13, 2006 The Guardian Just a few years ago, World

Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release

2006-02-14 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Mike and All, I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but it is supposed to be fairly effective for lead. Tom Irwin From: Mike McGinness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: [Biofuel] Heavy metals in biodiesel via bioremediation?

2006-02-14 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Zeke and All, This may be a moot point since most people will not be growing oil seeds or grazing animals on heavy metal contaminated land. Heavy metals tend to be respiratory poisons. By this I mean cellular respiration. At high enough concentrations, lead, mercury, zinc and cadmium

Re: [Biofuel] So called magnetic fuel conditionersandmagnetic watertreatment

2006-02-14 Thread Greg and April
Until you take the human influence ( conscious or subconscious ) and other variables from the results, there is no way to do any conclusive scientific test.Without any conclusive scientific testing, there is no proof. Just because there are cars on the road that use magnets, and they appear

Re: [Biofuel] So called magnetic fuel conditionersandmagnetic watertreatment

2006-02-14 Thread David Miller
Greg and April wrote: Just because something appears to work, does not mean that it actualy does, unless conclusive scientific testing - that eliminates any other possible variables as the actual reason for the improvement, proves it does. *** Sorry Keith, but, it's time for the pro-magnet

Re: [Biofuel] So called magnetic fuel conditioners and magnetic water treatment

2006-02-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Greg Until you take the human influence ( conscious or subconscious ) and other variables from the results, there is no way to do any conclusive scientific test.Without any conclusive scientific testing, there is no proof. Just because there are cars on the road that use magnets, and

Re: [Biofuel] Permanent Energy Crisis

2006-02-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hoagy Hey, your giving the plot away. :-) Michael Klare is inclined to do that. Some special pick me up Yokum berry tonic? LOL! Just re this: It seems were all involved and Keith you're doing a great job keeping us aware of so many things. Thankyou sir. In fact there are many I enjoy

Re: [Biofuel] So called magnetic fuel conditionersandmagnetic watertreatment

2006-02-14 Thread Darryl McMahon
In the interest of science and calming this debate, I am making this offer, as I think facts would be useful. If someone is prepared to buy a set of the magnets and ship them to me, I will install them on my wife's vehicle to test them. The test will begin after our roads are snow-free to

Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Redler
One remedy for heavy metals does not a babe-magnet make. :-)Mike Tom Irwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and All,I'm increasing my garlic intake. It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. I don't know if it will catch mercury but

Re: [Biofuel] So called magnetic fuel conditioners

2006-02-14 Thread Andres Secco
Dear David, Environment protection agency has been digging in a very serious way since 1972 and they have a complete report on all the work already made. Check this link. http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm The general conclussion is they do not recomend a particular device. But if you

[Biofuel] New Zealand resourcing

2006-02-14 Thread Charles List
Hi Anyone out there from New Zealand who can tell me where to get competitively priced Methanol and potassium hydroxide? -- -- This email was sent using Telecom SchoolZone. www.schoolzone.net.nz This

Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release

2006-02-14 Thread Chris lloyd
It seems that one of the compounds in garlic acts as a chelating agent for heavy metals. Just remember that to be effective garlic has to be eaten fresh and raw, garlic capsules don't work. Chris Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk

[Biofuel] BBC: Fueling the Future

2006-02-14 Thread prosperityplanet
Good Day One and All: FYI: The BBC is broadcasting a special series called 'Fueling the Future.' Yesterday's debate was on exaggerated oil supplies versus alternative energy. This morning's focus was on the biodiesel in Brazil -- how biodiesel from castor oil is giving farmers

Re: [Biofuel] So called magnetic fuel conditioners

2006-02-14 Thread David Miller
Andres Secco wrote: Dear David, Environment protection agency has been digging in a very serious way since 1972 and they have a complete report on all the work already made. Check this link. http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm The general conclussion is they do not recomend a

Re: [Biofuel] So called magnetic fuel conditioners

2006-02-14 Thread Darryl McMahon
OK, I took the bait. I went to the link you provided, and elected to start from the bottom and pick the first magnet device listed ... and the winner is: Super-Mag Fuel Extender. http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm The summary in the abstract states (and it pains me to re-type this):

Re: [Biofuel] Magnets

2006-02-14 Thread MH
For the magnet enthusiast this might get your engine revving. Model T Magnetic Engine 04/06/97 http://www.keelynet.com/energy/ford.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release

2006-02-14 Thread Andres Secco
I am so sorry to say that nothing you can eat will stop the heavy metals contamination if they are in your food or water. The reason why heavy metals content is limited in water and/or food to 20 ppm (parts per million)is the fact that Mercury or Lead (also others) accumulate in the organism