Re: [Biofuel] compost

[robert and benita rabello]

Jason Katie wrote:

will clay cat litter (used as directed on package...) hurt compost?
  


I use cat litter for the lavatory of our rabbit cage and routinely 
dump the contents into my composter.  When its all done, I can't even 
tell there had been any litter in it at all.  I don't do the same with 
our cats, however, as feline feces contain nasty microbes that I 
wouldn't want growing in compost that I handle.  Maybe I'm paranoid, but 
I wouldn't put used cat litter in my compost pile.


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Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

[Thomas Kelly]

Zeke,
 Did you replace the hoses 
in your VW w. viton hoses?

 BD seems to be able to 
penetrate rubber hoses and gaskets. My washed BD caused a gasket on my storage 
tank (washed BD) to swell and leak. It also became "floppy"/spongy. It was 
exposed to 100% BD 24/7 for 6 - 7 months.
 A friend, using washed BD, 
found the fuel lines in his VW Rabbit PU truck started to "weep" within a month 
or so. He replaced the weeping hoses w. viton hoses  no 
problem.
 I have a rubber sleeve 
around thefuel filler neck of my '82 Mercedes. It has begun to dissolve 
from the drips of washed BD over the past 10 months.
 I have a T in the fuel 
line to my "oil" burner. It allowed me to experiment w. increasing BD blends in 
a small tank while still being able to switch back to the 30% blend in my large 
tank. I have valves in the line to switch between tanks. I now burn 100% BD from 
the smaller tank. After 4 months, the valve in the 100% (washed) BDline 
began to leak ... no problem w. the valve in the 30% BD line. Upon 
inspection, there's a small rubber or plastic seal in the valve. I 
replacedthe valvew. a small ball valve.
 The effects of material 
incompatibility between washed BD and rubber seem to vary ... from 
penetrating, to swelling to actually dissolving the rubber.
 
Tom

- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Zeke Yewdall 
  
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:42 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing 
  Biodiesel
  Good point. One question I have on the tendancy of 
  biodiesel to dissolve stuff. How much of that is due to biodiesel 
  itself, and how much is due to unwashed biodiesel which may still contain 
  methanol and such? Though hopefully no methoxide any more. I 
  know my ASTM biodiesel that I bought is still trying to eat the new fuel hoses 
  on my VW, so that shouldn't be attributable to methanol in there, but of all 
  the anecdotes we hear about biodiesel eating lines, how many of those people 
  are using unwashed biodiesel? 
  On 6/27/06, Mike 
  Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'll 
try that - bear in mind this epoxy was exposed to methoxide, notfinished 
BD.The methoxide really did a number on it.It may 
well befine for BD storage and washing.Thomas Kelly 
wrote:Mike, I used JB Weld 
(epoxy?) to attach some fittings to my settling tank andto my wash 
tank. It has held up very well to biodiesel 
exposure. 
Tom- Original Message - From: "Mike Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: 
Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for 
storing BiodieselMethoxide 
seemed to chew up my epoxy pretty good...Thomas 
Kelly 
wrote:Will,Thanks 
for the reply. I dropped a light inside the tank. Theinside 
walls are a smooth light tan color. 
I decided to put some BD in one of them. I have 3 - 4 months 
until heating season. We'll see what happens between now and 
then.Tom- 
Original Message -*From:* Will 
Kelleher mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*To:* 
biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto: 
biofuel@sustainablelists.org*Sent:* 
Monday, June 26, 2006 4:44 
PM*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for 
storing 
BiodieselTom, 
I know that some drum manufacturors 
sell 55 gallon steel drumswith an 
epoxy lining.This could be the case with your 
methanoldrum.I don't 
think the biodiesel will dissolve the epoxy, but I 
don't know for sure.Hope 
that helps.Will 
KelleherOn 6/18/06, 
*Thomas Kelly* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:Hello 
to 
all, 
I would like to start storing some biodiesel to be used 
as heating 
fuel this 
winter. 
I have two 55 gallon (209L) drums that methanol came 
in.They are 
blue tanks with "VP Racing" on them. I was told that 
they are 
only used for methanol and "are lined" 
withsomething. 
I plan to tee them into my heating fuel 
line. 
Will they make suitable tanks for storing biodiesel? I'm 
a bit 
concerned about the lining. It is apparently a 
featurethat 
makes them more valuable for methanol storage, but 
willbiodiesel 
dissolve 
it? 
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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Thomas Kelly]

Doug, Jason  Katie, Mike and 
Zeke,
 Thanks for the 
replies.
 -The engine can be used to 
power a generator
 -Even if I don't use it 
that way, it has value
"... can pretty much bolt into any VW, diesel 
or gas, made between 1977 and 1996 or thereabouts."
 How about a Passat 
or a Beetle? At 6'3" I barely fit into a Rabbit ... Jetta's aren't much 
better.

 I wish I had even a 
thimble full of what you guys know about engines/generators/things 
mechanical ... don't ever underestimatethe value of such 
knowledge.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Tom

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  Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:56 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power 
  a generator
  
  Very rough,
  48Hp close to 30Kw at 4,000 plus. At 1,800 is 
  about 12Kw minus Power factor = about 9Kw useable at low revs on multi pole 
  generator. The engine should not glaze at that and if kept close to a 
  reasonable load at 4 to 5 Kw then you could have a happy genset that should 
  last a very long time. I run Deutz units which are horrible for prices on 
  parts.
  
  My very quick and rough and ready 
  calcs.
  
  Doug 
  
- Original Message - 
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Thomas 
Kelly 
To: biofuel 
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:34 
AM
Subject: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a 
generator

Hello all,
 I'm interested ingetting 
adiesel generator. A friend has offered me a VW Rabbit diesel engine 
(48HP) and says it would be great to power a generator. It seems a bit 
overkill. I was looking at 4 - 6 HP. 
 Guidance here would be 
appreciated.
 
Tom

  
  
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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Thomas Kelly]

Mike,
 I have a concern about noise from a generator. I live in a rural area 
 closest neighbor is about  .3 mi away. I live here because I like peace 
and quiet. I sometimes sit in the garden and listen to the caterpillars 
eating leaves on my trees.
The friend who's offering the VW engine has a 12 or 15KW Changfa ... 
it's loud!!!
 My thinking is to build a small generator house into a slope on my 
property    line the inside with foam or something to deaden the sound 
. muffler on the exhaust. The idea is to keep the heat on and  the well 
pump going when there's an interuption in power. I'd like the energy for 
processing BD to come from a generator run on BD.
 I think solar will be part of my energy future (not including the plant 
middle man I already rely on). With improvements in batteries and 
inverters, it would seem possible to add PV arrays to supplement the diesel 
generator, and eventually take over.
 I know little about generators, PV arrays, batteries or inverters, but 
at this time last year I hadn't made anything bigger than 1L batches of BD, 
had never driven a diesel car, and knew nothing about nozzles, electrodes, 
or even what the little door on my furnace were for. A lot can happen in a 
year.
Tom
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator


I have a 4.7 HP Changfa I've been happy with - it runs a 100 amp GM
 alternator - I get about 1200 watts out of it.  I think it would easily
 run a 200 amp,
 or just buy a genset from Grainger if you want AC current.  I expect it
 would handle 3000 - 4000 watts.  It doesn't use much fuel but it is
 noisy - needs to be in a shed unless you are rural.

 -Mike

 ason Katie wrote:

 maybe rig up 2 or 3 generators to it?  use a heavy motorcycle chain 
 maybe?
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 *Subject:* [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

 Hello all,
I'm interested in getting a diesel generator. A friend has
 offered me a VW Rabbit diesel engine (48HP) and says it would be
 great to power a generator. It seems a bit overkill. I was looking
 at 4 - 6 HP.
Guidance here would be appreciated.
   Tom

 
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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Mike Weaver]

I have mine in a shed - boat shops have sound-deadening material.

Zeke is the guy to ask about plans and how it should fit together...

Thomas Kelly wrote:

Mike,
 I have a concern about noise from a generator. I live in a rural area 
 closest neighbor is about  .3 mi away. I live here because I like peace 
and quiet. I sometimes sit in the garden and listen to the caterpillars 
eating leaves on my trees.
The friend who's offering the VW engine has a 12 or 15KW Changfa ... 
it's loud!!!
 My thinking is to build a small generator house into a slope on my 
property    line the inside with foam or something to deaden the sound 
. muffler on the exhaust. The idea is to keep the heat on and  the well 
pump going when there's an interuption in power. I'd like the energy for 
processing BD to come from a generator run on BD.
 I think solar will be part of my energy future (not including the plant 
middle man I already rely on). With improvements in batteries and 
inverters, it would seem possible to add PV arrays to supplement the diesel 
generator, and eventually take over.
 I know little about generators, PV arrays, batteries or inverters, but 
at this time last year I hadn't made anything bigger than 1L batches of BD, 
had never driven a diesel car, and knew nothing about nozzles, electrodes, 
or even what the little door on my furnace were for. A lot can happen in a 
year.
Tom
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator


  

I have a 4.7 HP Changfa I've been happy with - it runs a 100 amp GM
alternator - I get about 1200 watts out of it.  I think it would easily
run a 200 amp,
or just buy a genset from Grainger if you want AC current.  I expect it
would handle 3000 - 4000 watts.  It doesn't use much fuel but it is
noisy - needs to be in a shed unless you are rural.

-Mike

ason Katie wrote:



maybe rig up 2 or 3 generators to it?  use a heavy motorcycle chain 
maybe?
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*Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:34 PM
*Subject:* [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

Hello all,
   I'm interested in getting a diesel generator. A friend has
offered me a VW Rabbit diesel engine (48HP) and says it would be
great to power a generator. It seems a bit overkill. I was looking
at 4 - 6 HP.
   Guidance here would be appreciated.
  Tom


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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Mike Weaver]

It's a rebuilt small frame from an 80's diesel caddy

Jason Katie wrote:

how old of a gm alternator? you could bypass the diode set and get 
unregulated AC out of it anyway.
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator


  

I have a 4.7 HP Changfa I've been happy with - it runs a 100 amp GM
alternator - I get about 1200 watts out of it.  I think it would easily
run a 200 amp,
or just buy a genset from Grainger if you want AC current.  I expect it
would handle 3000 - 4000 watts.  It doesn't use much fuel but it is
noisy - needs to be in a shed unless you are rural.

-Mike

ason Katie wrote:



maybe rig up 2 or 3 generators to it?  use a heavy motorcycle chain 
maybe?
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*Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:34 PM
*Subject:* [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

Hello all,
   I'm interested in getting a diesel generator. A friend has
offered me a VW Rabbit diesel engine (48HP) and says it would be
great to power a generator. It seems a bit overkill. I was looking
at 4 - 6 HP.
   Guidance here would be appreciated.
  Tom


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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Thomas Kelly]

Zeke,
 "You don't want to run it at too low of power 
though, or it won't run hot enough, and efficiency will go down, stuff will get 
carbonned up, and such. Sort of like cars that are always used for short 
run errands."

 I seem to recall something about "cold 
stacking"?
If the engine 
doesn't run at 25%+ --- problems.

 Is 
this what you're referring to?
 (I 
gotta spend some time in the archives)
 
Tom


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  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:24 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power 
  a generator
  Yeah, I'd rig up several generators to it. Or better yet, 
  you can buy 10 - 20kW generators from northerntool.com which 
  are meant to be driven off of PTO's from tractors. If you are running 
  the rabbit engine at a nice 1,800 or 2,000 rpm instead of redlined at 4,500 
  where the 48 hp is measured, it should be alot happier long term, and still 
  provide somewhere around 20 horsepower -- or about 15kW (maybe more like 12kW 
  if you count inefficiency). You don't want to run it at too low of 
  power though, or it won't run hot enough, and efficiency will go down, stuff 
  will get carbonned up, and such. Sort of like cars that are always used 
  for short run errands.Zeke
  
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Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

[Mike Weaver]

That's nuthin' - I once used JB Weld to rebuild the front of the crank 
where the harmonic balancer bolt to on a Ford 460.  Ran for years...

Zeke Yewdall wrote:

 I've also used JB weld to attach the temp sensor to the engine block 
 on my VW, and so far, it has survived 6 months of biodiesel exposure 
 (fuel line leak soaked entire engine) and regular heating to 190 - 
 225F.  I do know that brake fluid will slowly dissolve JB weld 
 though.  I used it to seal a hole in the brake booster of my bus (non 
 pressure side of the brake fluid), and after a year or so, it was more 
 like jello, and fell off again.

 On 6/27/06, *Thomas Kelly* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mike,
 I used JB Weld (epoxy?) to attach some fittings to my settling
 tank and
 to my wash tank. It has held up very well to biodiesel exposure.
  Tom
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 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel


  Methoxide seemed to chew up my epoxy pretty good...
 
  Thomas Kelly wrote:
 
  Will,
  Thanks for the reply. I dropped a light inside the tank. The
  inside walls are a smooth light tan color.
   I decided to put some BD in one of them. I have 3 - 4 months
  until heating season. We'll see what happens between now and then.
Tom
 
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  Tom,
 
  I know that some drum manufacturors sell 55 gallon steel drums
  with an epoxy lining.  This could be the case with your
 methanol
  drum.  I don't think the biodiesel will dissolve the epoxy,
 but I
  don't know for sure.  Hope that helps.
 
  Will Kelleher
 
  On 6/18/06, *Thomas Kelly* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello to all,
   I would like to start storing some biodiesel to be
 used
  as heating fuel this winter.
   I have two 55 gallon (209L) drums that methanol
 came in.
  They are blue tanks with VP Racing on them. I was
 told that
  they are only used for methanol and are lined with
  something. I plan to tee them into my heating fuel line.
   Will they make suitable tanks for storing
 biodiesel? I'm
  a bit concerned about the lining. It is apparently a
 feature
  that makes them more valuable for methanol storage, but
 will
  biodiesel dissolve it?
   Tom
 
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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Mike Weaver]

Don't bother putting it in a vanagon, tho'

Zeke Yewdall wrote:

 Yeah, Mike's got a point.  It'll pretty much bolt into any volkswagen, 
 diesel or gas, made between 1977 and 1996 or thereabouts.  If it's a 
 good engine, you might be able to find an old VW jetta with a toasted 
 engine, drop it in, and have a biodiesel car.

 On 6/27/06, *Mike Weaver* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Take the motor anyway!  Is it any good?  It'll fit a lot cars.

 Thomas Kelly wrote:

  Hello all,
 I'm interested in getting a diesel generator. A friend has
 offered
  me a VW Rabbit diesel engine (48HP) and says it would be great to
  power a generator. It seems a bit overkill. I was looking at 4 -
 6 HP.
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Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

[Zeke Yewdall]

Nope, I didn't use viton I bought nice high quality fuel line, but apparently it was rubber :( Should have known better.On 6/28/06, Thomas Kelly
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Zeke,
 Did you replace the hoses 
in your VW w. viton hoses?

 BD seems to be able to 
penetrate rubber hoses and gaskets. My washed BD caused a gasket on my storage 
tank (washed BD) to swell and leak. It also became floppy/spongy. It was 
exposed to 100% BD 24/7 for 6 - 7 months.
 A friend, using washed BD, 
found the fuel lines in his VW Rabbit PU truck started to weep within a month 
or so. He replaced the weeping hoses w. viton hoses  no 
problem.
 I have a rubber sleeve 
around thefuel filler neck of my '82 Mercedes. It has begun to dissolve 
from the drips of washed BD over the past 10 months.
 I have a T in the fuel 
line to my oil burner. It allowed me to experiment w. increasing BD blends in 
a small tank while still being able to switch back to the 30% blend in my large 
tank. I have valves in the line to switch between tanks. I now burn 100% BD from 
the smaller tank. After 4 months, the valve in the 100% (washed) BDline 
began to leak ... no problem w. the valve in the 30% BD line. Upon 
inspection, there's a small rubber or plastic seal in the valve. I 
replacedthe valvew. a small ball valve.
 The effects of material 
incompatibility between washed BD and rubber seem to vary ... from 
penetrating, to swelling to actually dissolving the rubber.
 
Tom

- Original Message - 

  
From: 
  Zeke Yewdall 
  
  To: 
biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:42 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing 
  Biodiesel
  Good point. One question I have on the tendancy of 
  biodiesel to dissolve stuff. How much of that is due to biodiesel 
  itself, and how much is due to unwashed biodiesel which may still contain 
  methanol and such? Though hopefully no methoxide any more. I 
  know my ASTM biodiesel that I bought is still trying to eat the new fuel hoses 
  on my VW, so that shouldn't be attributable to methanol in there, but of all 
  the anecdotes we hear about biodiesel eating lines, how many of those people 
  are using unwashed biodiesel? 
  On 6/27/06, Mike 
  Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'll 
try that - bear in mind this epoxy was exposed to methoxide, notfinished 
BD.The methoxide really did a number on it.It may 
well befine for BD storage and washing.Thomas Kelly 
wrote:Mike, I used JB Weld 
(epoxy?) to attach some fittings to my settling tank andto my wash 
tank. It has held up very well to biodiesel 
exposure. 
Tom- Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 
biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: 
Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for 
storing BiodieselMethoxide 
seemed to chew up my epoxy pretty good...Thomas 
Kelly 
wrote:Will,Thanks 
for the reply. I dropped a light inside the tank. Theinside 
walls are a smooth light tan color. 
I decided to put some BD in one of them. I have 3 - 4 months 
until heating season. We'll see what happens between now and 
then.Tom- 
Original Message -*From:* Will 
Kelleher mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*To:* 
biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:
 
biofuel@sustainablelists.org*Sent:* 
Monday, June 26, 2006 4:44 
PM*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for 
storing 
BiodieselTom, 
I know that some drum manufacturors 
sell 55 gallon steel drumswith an 
epoxy lining.This could be the case with your 
methanoldrum.I don't 
think the biodiesel will dissolve the epoxy, but I 
don't know for sure.Hope 
that helps.Will 
KelleherOn 6/18/06, 
*Thomas Kelly* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:Hello 
to 
all, 
I would like to start storing some biodiesel to be used 
as heating 
fuel this 
winter. 
I have two 55 gallon (209L) drums that methanol came 
in.They are 
blue tanks with VP Racing on them. I was told that 
they are 
only used for methanol and are lined 
withsomething. 
I plan to tee them into my heating fuel 
line. 
Will they make suitable tanks for storing biodiesel? I'm 
a bit 
concerned about the lining. It is apparently a 
featurethat 
makes them more valuable for methanol storage, but 
willbiodiesel 
dissolve 
it? 
Tom 
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[Biofuel] Winterizing biodiesel

[Thomas Kelly]

Hello All,
 I know it's a bit early 
for some of us to be thinking winter, but it occurs to me that the southern 
hemisphere is in the thick of it.
 I use BD100 in my car and 
go to BD70 in the winter. The 30% petro diesel is winterized and prevents my 
fuel from gelling.
 I'd like to go BD100 year 
round. Is anyone familiar w. Technol's BD100 for biodiesel? www.technol.com It is supposed to 
lower gel point by up to 30F when used in a 1 : 750 ratio.
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

[Mike Weaver]

So that's why you sound so funny on the phone...

Michael Redler wrote:

 Oh yea? Well, I use JB Weld to do my own dental fillings and crowns.

 */Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 That's nuthin' - I once used JB Weld to rebuild the front of the
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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

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Dont forget to mount the motor on vibration damper. Also consider cooling flow and combustion air. Sound studios use labyrinths/baffles on air conditioning  KirkMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I have mine in a shed - boat shops have sound-deadening material.Zeke is the guy to ask about plans and how it should fit together...Thomas Kelly wrote:Mike, I have a concern about noise from a generator. I live in a rural area  closest neighbor is about .3 mi away. I live here because I like peace and quiet. I sometimes sit in the garden and listen to the caterpillars eating leaves on my trees. The friend who's offering the VW engine has a 12 or 15KW Changfa ... it's loud!!! My thinking is to build a small "generator house" into a slope on
 my property  line the inside with foam or something to deaden the sound . muffler on the exhaust. The idea is to keep the heat on and the well pump going when there's an interuption in power. I'd like the energy for processing BD to come from a generator run on BD. I think solar will be part of my energy future (not including the plant "middle man" I already rely on). With improvements in batteries and inverters, it would seem possible to add PV arrays to supplement the diesel generator, and eventually take over. I know little about generators, PV arrays, batteries or inverters, but at this time last year I hadn't made anything bigger than 1L batches of BD, had never driven a diesel car, and knew nothing about nozzles, electrodes, or even what the "little door" on my furnace were for. A lot can happen in a year. Tom- Original Message -
 From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:25 PMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator I have a 4.7 HP Changfa I've been happy with - it runs a 100 amp GMalternator - I get about 1200 watts out of it. I think it would easilyrun a 200 amp,or just buy a genset from Grainger if you want AC current. I expect itwould handle 3000 - 4000 watts. It doesn't use much fuel but it isnoisy - needs to be in a shed unless you are rural.-Mikeason Katie wrote: maybe rig up 2 or 3 generators to it? use a heavy motorcycle chain maybe?JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

[Joe Street]

Is that how you ended up with your lips glued to your ***?  I wondered 
about that



Michael Redler wrote:

 Oh yea? Well, I use JB Weld to do my own dental fillings and crowns.
 
 */Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Winterizing biodiesel

[Thomas Kelly]

I just received the following in an email from 
Technol:

"Hi 
Tom,
 
Thanks for your 
interest in our product. Our B100 is for Cold Flow improvement in B100 not for a 
blend and it does not improve the Cold Filter Plug Point. CFPP is what you need 
to improve in order to have your fuel flow through a filter."
 
 
Tom

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Thomas 
  Kelly 
  To: biofuel 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:02 
  PM
  Subject: [Biofuel] Winterizing 
  biodiesel
  
  Hello All,
   I know it's a bit early 
  for some of us to be thinking winter, but it occurs to me that the southern 
  hemisphere is in the thick of it.
   I use BD100 in my car 
  and go to BD70 in the winter. The 30% petro diesel is winterized and prevents 
  my fuel from gelling.
   I'd like to go BD100 
  year round. Is anyone familiar w. Technol's BD100 for biodiesel? www.technol.com It is supposed 
  to lower gel point by up to 30F when used in a 1 : 750 ratio.
   
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[Biofuel] OT -a most amazing fountain

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Re: [Biofuel] compost

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its not multiple cats its multiple ferrets. my wife loves the psycho 
little buggers, so im thinking it will be ok then.
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 Jason Katie wrote:

will clay cat litter (used as directed on package...) hurt compost?



I use cat litter for the lavatory of our rabbit cage and routinely
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 wouldn't want growing in compost that I handle.  Maybe I'm paranoid, but
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Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

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Yes, BD destroys rubber. I was bubble washing a test batch a few weeks ago and i used a rubber band to tie a weight to the end of the bubble tube. I removed the rubber band and let it sit in the sink and a few days later it was dissolved! Very funny to see, unless of course it's your fuel line...
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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD)]

In Alaska we had a 2 cylinder 4Kw Lister. The absolute 
nosiest generator in creation. 

But it did run for 20 years 12h/day 6m/year without a 
problem. 

In our 
case we took a 55 gallon drum. placed a divider in it, and filled it with gavel, 
and buried it in the ground.
The 
divider had holes cut into it at the bottom. 
The 
exhaust went in one Bung - Down to bottom - back up the other side - and then 
into the stack. 
It 
worked great as a muffler. 

We 
built a small building to house it and used 1' layer sod/tundra to insulate the 
building walls.
Mindy



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk 
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a generator

Dont forget to mount the motor on vibration damper. Also consider cooling 
flow and combustion air. Sound studios use labyrinths/baffles on air 
conditioning
KirkMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
I 
  have mine in a shed - boat shops have sound-deadening material.Zeke is 
  the guy to ask about plans and how it should fit together...Thomas 
  Kelly wrote:Mike, I have a concern about noise from a 
  generator. I live in a rural area  closest neighbor is about .3 mi 
  away. I live here because I like peace and quiet. I sometimes sit in 
  the garden and listen to the caterpillars eating leaves on my 
  trees. The friend who's offering the VW engine has a 12 or 15KW 
  Changfa ... it's loud!!! My thinking is to build a small 
  "generator house" into a slope on my property  line the inside 
  with foam or something to deaden the sound . muffler on the 
  exhaust. The idea is to keep the heat on and the well pump going when 
  there's an interuption in power. I'd like the energy for processing BD 
  to come from a generator run on BD. I think solar will be part of my 
  energy future (not including the plant "middle man" I already rely 
  on). With improvements in batteries and inverters, it would seem 
  possible to add PV arrays to supplement the diesel generator, and 
  eventually take over. I know little about generators, PV arrays, 
  batteries or inverters, but at this time last year I hadn't made 
  anything bigger than 1L batches of BD, had never driven a diesel car, 
  and knew nothing about nozzles, electrodes, or even what the "little 
  door" on my furnace were for. A lot can happen in a year. 
  Tom- Original Message - From: "Mike Weaver" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: 
  Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:25 PMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to 
  power a generator I have a 4.7 HP 
  Changfa I've been happy with - it runs a 100 amp GMalternator - I 
  get about 1200 watts out of it. I think it would easilyrun a 200 
  amp,or just buy a genset from Grainger if you want AC current. I 
  expect itwould handle 3000 - 4000 watts. It doesn't use much fuel 
  but it isnoisy - needs to be in a shed unless you are 
  rural.-Mikeason Katie 
  wrote: maybe rig up 2 or 3 
  generators to it? use a heavy motorcycle chain 
  maybe?JasonICQ#: 
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  me) - Original Message 
  - *From:* Thomas Kelly 
   *To:* biofuel 
   *Sent:* Tuesday, June 
  27, 2006 7:34 PM *Subject:* [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a 
  generator Hello all, I'm 
  interested in getting a diesel generator. A friend has offered 
  me a VW Rabbit diesel engine (48HP) and says it would be great 
  to power a generator. It seems a bit overkill. I was looking 
  at 4 - 6 HP. Guidance here would be 
  appreciated. Tom 
   
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Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

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Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

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Re: [Biofuel] compost

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Jason  Katie,
I wouldn't be so terribly concerned even if they were cats. Kitty litter 
has a bad rep largely because of a parasitic flatworm. Pregnant women should 
not handle kitty litter. The flatworm and its eggs are killed by temps of 
hot compost  ... 145F.
 I'm curious as to how your compost box and pumpkins are doing.
 Tom
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 its not multiple cats its multiple ferrets. my wife loves the psycho
 little buggers, so im thinking it will be ok then.
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 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] compost


 Jason Katie wrote:

will clay cat litter (used as directed on package...) hurt compost?



I use cat litter for the lavatory of our rabbit cage and routinely
 dump the contents into my composter.  When its all done, I can't even
 tell there had been any litter in it at all.  I don't do the same with
 our cats, however, as feline feces contain nasty microbes that I
 wouldn't want growing in compost that I handle.  Maybe I'm paranoid, but
 I wouldn't put used cat litter in my compost pile.


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Re: [Biofuel] compost

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i researched all of these things when we found out katie was pregnant in 
january, and everyone is afraid of cat poo because unlike other species 
whose expulsions are mostly sterile, or at least benign, cats remnants are 
still actively infested with all sorts of nasty stuff. i was curious if the 
clay would stuff up the works. as robert said, it gets dispersed rather 
well, so i wont worry about it in small amounts.
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 Jason  Katie,
I wouldn't be so terribly concerned even if they were cats. Kitty 
 litter
 has a bad rep largely because of a parasitic flatworm. Pregnant women 
 should
 not handle kitty litter. The flatworm and its eggs are killed by temps of
 hot compost  ... 145F.
 I'm curious as to how your compost box and pumpkins are doing.
 Tom
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] compost


 its not multiple cats its multiple ferrets. my wife loves the psycho
 little buggers, so im thinking it will be ok then.
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 - Original Message - 
 From: robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] compost


 Jason Katie wrote:

will clay cat litter (used as directed on package...) hurt compost?



I use cat litter for the lavatory of our rabbit cage and routinely
 dump the contents into my composter.  When its all done, I can't even
 tell there had been any litter in it at all.  I don't do the same with
 our cats, however, as feline feces contain nasty microbes that I
 wouldn't want growing in compost that I handle.  Maybe I'm paranoid, but
 I wouldn't put used cat litter in my compost pile.


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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Thomas Kelly]

Mindy,
 Waddya mean the Lister is the 
noisiest generator?
I listened to one the other day  Chug - 
Chuga - Chug - Chuga . I thought I was listening tothe rhythm 
section of a band.
 You thinkI ought to 
pass on a Lister? Too noisy?
 
Tom


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Thompson, 
  Mark L. (PNB RD) 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:41 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power 
  a generator
  
  In Alaska we had a 2 cylinder 4Kw Lister. The absolute 
  nosiest generator in creation. 
  
  But it did run for 20 years 12h/day 6m/year without a 
  problem. 
  
  In 
  our case we took a 55 gallon drum. placed a divider in it, and filled it with 
  gavel, and buried it in the ground.
  The 
  divider had holes cut into it at the bottom. 
  The 
  exhaust went in one Bung - Down to bottom - back up the other side - and then 
  into the stack. 
  It 
  worked great as a muffler. 
  
  We 
  built a small building to house it and used 1' layer sod/tundra to insulate 
  the building walls.
  Mindy
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk 
  McLorenSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:17 AMTo: 
  biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to 
  power a generator
  
  Dont forget to mount the motor on vibration damper. Also consider cooling 
  flow and combustion air. Sound studios use labyrinths/baffles on air 
  conditioning
  KirkMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  I 
have mine in a shed - boat shops have sound-deadening material.Zeke 
is the guy to ask about plans and how it should fit 
together...Thomas Kelly wrote:Mike, I have a 
concern about noise from a generator. I live in a rural area  
closest neighbor is about .3 mi away. I live here because I like peace 
and quiet. I sometimes sit in the garden and listen to the 
caterpillars eating leaves on my trees. The friend who's 
offering the VW engine has a 12 or 15KW Changfa ... it's 
loud!!! My thinking is to build a small "generator house" into a 
slope on my property  line the inside with foam or something to 
deaden the sound . muffler on the exhaust. The idea is to keep 
the heat on and the well pump going when there's an interuption in 
power. I'd like the energy for processing BD to come from a 
generator run on BD. I think solar will be part of my energy future 
(not including the plant "middle man" I already rely on). With 
improvements in batteries and inverters, it would seem possible to 
add PV arrays to supplement the diesel generator, and eventually 
take over. I know little about generators, PV arrays, batteries or 
inverters, but at this time last year I hadn't made anything bigger 
than 1L batches of BD, had never driven a diesel car, and knew 
nothing about nozzles, electrodes, or even what the "little door" on 
my furnace were for. A lot can happen in a year. 
Tom- Original Message - From: "Mike Weaver" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: 
Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:25 PMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to 
power a generator I have a 4.7 
HP Changfa I've been happy with - it runs a 100 amp GMalternator 
- I get about 1200 watts out of it. I think it would easilyrun a 
200 amp,or just buy a genset from Grainger if you want AC 
current. I expect itwould handle 3000 - 4000 watts. It doesn't 
use much fuel but it isnoisy - needs to be in a shed unless you 
are rural.-Mikeason 
Katie wrote: maybe rig 
up 2 or 3 generators to it? use a heavy motorcycle chain 
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me) - Original Message 
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 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 
27, 2006 7:34 PM *Subject:* [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a 
generator Hello all, I'm 
interested in getting a diesel generator. A friend has 
offered me a VW Rabbit diesel engine (48HP) and says it would 
be great to power a generator. It seems a bit overkill. I 
was looking at 4 - 6 HP. Guidance here would 
be appreciated. Tom 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

[Thomas Kelly]

Hey Will,
 Why are you still bubble 
washing?
 Check out stir-washing at 
JTF.

 I just stir-washed 20 gal (76L) 
of BD. It was a bit stubborn  went 4 washes. Started this morning will let 
final wash (just checked: crystal clear wash water) sit over night. Bubble 
washing takes days .. not to mention the potential for oxidizing the 
fuel.

 Sounds like a commercial, 
no?
 
Give stir-washing a try.
 
Tom

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  Kelleher 
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  Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:59 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing 
  Biodiesel
  Yes, BD destroys rubber. I was bubble washing a test 
  batch a few weeks ago and i used a rubber band to tie a weight to the end of 
  the bubble tube. I removed the rubber band and let it sit in the sink 
  and a few days later it was dissolved! Very funny to see, unless of 
  course it's your fuel line... Will
  
  

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[Biofuel] OT -The Puppet Masters

[Kirk McLoren]

Are brain parasites altering the personalities of three billion people? The question emerged a few years ago, and it shows no signs of going away. . . . . . . A year later, Torrey and his colleagues discovered one more fascinating link. They raised human cells in Petri dishes and infected them with Toxoplasma. Then they dosed the cells with a variety of drugs used to treat schizophrenia. Several of the drugs--most notably haloperidol--blocked the growth of the parasite.  So Fuller and the Oxford scientists joined forces to find an answer to the next logical question: can drugs used to
 treat schizophrenia help a parasite-crazed rat? They now report their results in the Proceedings of the Royal Society of London (press release). They ran the original tests on 49 more rats. Once again, parasitized rats lost their healthy fear of cats. Then the researchers treated the rats with haloperidol and several other anti-psychotic drugs. They found that the drugs made the rats more scared. They also found that the antipsychotics were as effective as pyrimethamine, a drug that is specifically used to eliminate Toxoplasma.  There's plenty left to do to turn these results into a full-blown explanation of parasites and personalities.http://www.corante.com/loom/archives/2006/01/17/the_return_of_the_puppet_masters.php 
	
	
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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Jason Katie]

the majority of gm parts from the early 50's to the mid 80's were 
standardized (except buick) so if you are in the boneyard sometime, fancy a 
look into buying another alternator to experiment with. you can change these 
mid 80s alternators just about any way you want, i had one with a variable 
control field, that would output whatever voltage i wanted depending on how 
i set the field feed. very versatile equipment those alternators.
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator


 It's a rebuilt small frame from an 80's diesel caddy

 Jason Katie wrote:

how old of a gm alternator? you could bypass the diode set and get
unregulated AC out of it anyway.
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator




I have a 4.7 HP Changfa I've been happy with - it runs a 100 amp GM
alternator - I get about 1200 watts out of it.  I think it would easily
run a 200 amp,
or just buy a genset from Grainger if you want AC current.  I expect it
would handle 3000 - 4000 watts.  It doesn't use much fuel but it is
noisy - needs to be in a shed unless you are rural.

-Mike

ason Katie wrote:



maybe rig up 2 or 3 generators to it?  use a heavy motorcycle chain
maybe?
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*Subject:* [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

Hello all,
   I'm interested in getting a diesel generator. A friend has
offered me a VW Rabbit diesel engine (48HP) and says it would be
great to power a generator. It seems a bit overkill. I was looking
at 4 - 6 HP.
   Guidance here would be appreciated.
  Tom


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Re: [Biofuel] OT -a most amazing fountain

[Doug Younker]

  Just one more damned if you do and damned if you don't situation I 
think.  There is so much time in a day. the media has to make choices in 
What what to present.  The individual has to make a choice in what 
sources to use.
Doug, N0LKK
Kansas USA inc.

Kirk McLoren wrote:
 http://www.comagz.com/webmagazine/story/the_most_amazing_fountain_in_latin_america
  
 when I see things like this I wonder what else I might find in South 
 America. I think our media promotes a picture of poverty and omits such 
 beautiful things.
  
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Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator

[Zeke Yewdall]

On sound deadening, it is amazing how much sound comes out of the Intake of the VW engines (in addition to the exhaust which is the obvious place that most people take). On my rabbit, I've got a short 3 diameter pipe going into the air cleaner (which is built into the intake manifold), and it's pretty loud. The stock intake is designed to muffle the sound more (and also cuts a bit of power out -- it accelerates noticeably faster with the new short wide intake pipe). The water cooled engine jacket will cut down on some of the sound compared to an air cooled diesel, but still, putting it in a underground shed might be a good idea. This is one reason I am a big fan of PV vs biodiesel generators -- places where I want power, you can't even hear a car within a few miles, so I don't want to be listening to a droning generator. Snow also makes a great sound deadener. Seriously, 100 yards of snow covered conifers can deaden even an air cooled lawnmower engine down to nothing Of course, that time of year is when you don't get any sun for the PV's either
On 6/28/06, Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the majority of gm parts from the early 50's to the mid 80's werestandardized (except buick) so if you are in the boneyard sometime, fancy alook into buying another alternator to experiment with. you can change these
mid 80s alternators just about any way you want, i had one with a variablecontrol field, that would output whatever voltage i wanted depending on howi set the field feed. very versatile equipment those alternators.
JasonICQ#:154998177MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (most likely to get me)- Original Message -From: Mike Weaver 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:24 AMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator
 It's a rebuilt small frame from an 80's diesel caddy Jason Katie wrote:how old of a gm alternator? you could bypass the diode set and getunregulated AC out of it anyway.
JasonICQ#:154998177MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (most likely to get me)- Original Message -From: Mike Weaver 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:25 PMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator
I have a 4.7 HP Changfa I've been happy with - it runs a 100 amp GMalternator - I get about 1200 watts out of it.I think it would easily
run a 200 amp,or just buy a genset from Grainger if you want AC current.I expect itwould handle 3000 - 4000 watts.It doesn't use much fuel but it isnoisy - needs to be in a shed unless you are rural.
-Mikeason Katie wrote:maybe rig up 2 or 3 generators to it?use a heavy motorcycle chain
maybe?JasonICQ#:154998177MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:
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*Subject:* [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generatorHello all, I'm interested in getting a diesel generator. A friend hasoffered me a VW Rabbit diesel engine (48HP) and says it would be
great to power a generator. It seems a bit overkill. I was lookingat 4 - 6 HP. Guidance here would be appreciated.Tom
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[Biofuel] China to flood US with improved Appleseeds for $220

[Keith Addison]

I don't know Wu Qing-Yuan or Yanson Corp in China, but he sent me 
this message below without comment, I guess he wants some publicity. 
I don't know if he checked it with Rudi first, but it says all over 
our website that we're journalists after all.

I couldn't get much sense out of Yanson's website, no pics that I 
could find, but maybe someone else will do better.

It sure does sound like a big improvement on the Appleseed, with all 
its problems. Let alone the FuelMeister:
http://snipurl.com/h9ou
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer

However, there's this, about the Appleseed, in a previous message:

Uh, it's not the same as Dale's touchless processor. It's a cheapo 
rip-off of Dale's processor, which is not acknowledged by the people 
who promote it.
-- See: Re: [Biofuel] appleseed drainage
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg57690.html

That's Biofuel list member Dale Scroggins, who designed the original 
Touchless processor:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html#touchfree

That was in Jan 2001, and Dale announced it here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg02074.html
[biofuel] Re: Biodiesel - no catalyst
Aw, shucks, it's really nothing special.  Just a 100-liter processor
made from mostly salvaged materials that almost fills itself, mixes
everything, recovers the unused methanol, washes and dries the ester
pretty much by flipping a few switches. ;o) -- Dale Scroggins, Thu, 
11 Jan 2001

It's still an advanced design, five years later.

Maria Girl Mark Alovert produced her dumbed-down version of it late 
in 2003. Six months later she wrote to me in connection with her 
Appleseed reactor, as she now called it: I want to write to dale 
scroggins and point him to the things his touchless has spawned. I 
don't know if she ever did write to Dale, but I've never heard of her 
acknowledging that in public, maybe she has, but she sure doesn't 
push it.

Now the unacknowledged rip-off that doesn't work properly has been 
fixed (probably) and is being mass-produced, China patent pending. 
But I'm sure Dale's part in it will remain unacknowledged.

That's one reason I'm posting this message here.

Another reason is that we established at the list that the 
FuelMeister can be assembled from parts costing a few hundred 
dollars, though Rudi sells it for $3,000 - er, sorry, that's only 
$2,995 - plus all the add-ons that should be part of the package in 
the first place. I wonder what he'll be charging for OEM Appleseeds 
he pays $220 for? Girl Mark also sells her Appleseeds for about 
$3,000. Rudi needs a new trick anyway, I see quite a few other people 
flogging FuelMeister lookalikes in the US now, even if Josh doesn't 
endorse them.

Anyway, IMNSHO it's the people who get it right that will make the 
difference and all this other stuff just doesn't matter in the long 
run. I really don't care about some guy who's agonising over whether 
to buy a FuelMeister or an Appleseed or just use DSE or Acusorb 
beads, but on the other hand I suppose it's no bad thing if Rudi 
junks the odious FuelMeister in favour of these neo-Appleseeds from 
China.

Best

Keith


Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: yanson corp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OEM-outsourcing (biodiesel)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Mr. Wu Qing-Yuan:

I am the president of Biodiesel Solutions of Reno, NV, the home of 
the FuelMeister processor. We are the world¡¯s leading supplier of 
personal-scale biodiesel production equipment.

We are VERY interested in importing and marketing your machines in 
the USA. While we currently manufacture these machines ourselves, we 
are primarily a ¡°system integrator¡±, ¡°marketer¡± and 
¡°value-added service provider¡± for biodiesel equipment. We have a 
trained and active network of over 53 dealers in the USA alone, plus 
many more overseas.

If you are interested in rapidly opening up the US market for 
biodiesel equipment, please send me details about your product 
offerings.

Best regards,

Rudi Wiedemann
President / CEO
Biodiesel Solutions, Inc.
1395 Greg Street, #102
Sparks, NV 89431
877-358-6400 (toll free)
775-358-6400x101 (direct)
775-358-6499 (fax)
http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/www.biodieselsolutions.com

- 
-

We are the low-cost OEM (original equipment manufacturer) of a 
house-designed 50-gallon all-metal personal homebrew processor 
(reaction chamber) destined for a biodiesel supply business in the 
US.   (First shipment arriving L.A. port early July.)

This reaction chamber (RC) tank features a conical bottom for easy 
drainage, a substantial improvement over flat-bottomed water heater 
conversion.  The inner vessel is stainless steel and removable outer 
casing and cap are regular steel, with 1 Styrofoam insulation 
all-around in-between.  It is a welded structure reinforced with 
heavy gauge brackets/spacers for integrity, unlike the fragile poly 

Re: [Biofuel] Winterizing biodiesel

[Keith Addison]

Hello All,
 I know it's a bit early for some of us to be thinking winter, 
but it occurs to me that the southern hemisphere is in the thick of 
it.
 I use BD100 in my car and go to BD70 in the winter. The 30% 
petro diesel is winterized and prevents my fuel from gelling.
 I'd like to go BD100 year round. Is anyone familiar w. 
Technol's BD100 for biodiesel? 
http://www.technol.comwww.technol.com   It is supposed to lower 
gel point by up to 30F when used in a 1 : 750 ratio.
  Tom

Hello Tom

I don't know Technol. Pour-point depressants for petro-diesel don't 
work very well with biodiesel. The main chemical used for biodiesel 
is usually toluene, but Technol uses aromatic naptha. No idea, try 
it and see I guess.

Best

Keith


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