Zeke,
     Did you replace the hoses in your VW w. viton hoses?
 
     BD seems to be able to penetrate rubber hoses and gaskets. My washed BD caused a gasket on my storage tank (washed BD) to swell and leak. It also became "floppy"/spongy. It was exposed to 100% BD  24/7 for 6 - 7 months.
     A friend, using washed BD, found the fuel lines in his VW Rabbit PU truck started to "weep" within a month or so. He replaced the weeping hoses w. viton hoses  .... no problem. 
     I have a rubber sleeve around the fuel filler neck of my '82 Mercedes. It has begun to dissolve from the drips of washed BD over the past 10 months.
     I have a T in the fuel line to my "oil" burner. It allowed me to experiment w. increasing BD blends in a small tank while still being able to switch back to the 30% blend in my large tank. I have valves in the line to switch between tanks. I now burn 100% BD from the smaller tank. After 4 months, the valve in the 100% (washed) BD line began to leak  ... no problem w. the valve in the 30% BD line. Upon inspection, there's a small rubber or plastic seal in the valve. I replaced the valve w. a small ball valve.
     The effects of material incompatibility between washed BD and rubber seem to vary  ... from penetrating, to swelling to actually dissolving the rubber. 
                                                  Tom
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

Good point.   One question I have on the tendancy of biodiesel to dissolve stuff.  How much of that is due to biodiesel itself, and how much is due to unwashed biodiesel which may still contain methanol and such?  Though hopefully no methoxide any more.   I know my ASTM biodiesel that I bought is still trying to eat the new fuel hoses on my VW, so that shouldn't be attributable to methanol in there, but of all the anecdotes we hear about biodiesel eating lines, how many of those people are using unwashed biodiesel?

On 6/27/06, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'll try that - bear in mind this epoxy was exposed to methoxide, not
finished BD.  The methoxide really did a number on it.  It may well be
fine for BD storage and washing.

Thomas Kelly wrote:

>Mike,
>    I used JB Weld (epoxy?) to attach some fittings to my settling tank and
>to my wash tank. It has held up very well to biodiesel exposure.
>                                         Tom
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel
>
>
>
>
>>Methoxide seemed to chew up my epoxy pretty good...
>>
>>Thomas Kelly wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Will,
>>>    Thanks for the reply. I dropped a light inside the tank. The
>>>inside walls are a smooth light tan color.
>>>     I decided to put some BD in one of them. I have 3 - 4 months
>>>until heating season. We'll see what happens between now and then.
>>>                                      Tom
>>>
>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>    *From:* Will Kelleher <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>    *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>>>    <mailto: biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>>>    *Sent:* Monday, June 26, 2006 4:44 PM
>>>    *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel
>>>
>>>    Tom,
>>>
>>>    I know that some drum manufacturors sell 55 gallon steel drums
>>>    with an epoxy lining.  This could be the case with your methanol
>>>    drum.  I don't think the biodiesel will dissolve the epoxy, but I
>>>    don't know for sure.  Hope that helps.
>>>
>>>    Will Kelleher
>>>
>>>    On 6/18/06, *Thomas Kelly* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>        Hello to all,
>>>             I would like to start storing some biodiesel to be used
>>>        as heating fuel this winter.
>>>             I have two 55 gallon (209L) drums that methanol came in.
>>>        They are blue tanks with "VP Racing" on them. I was told that
>>>        they are only used for methanol and "are lined" with
>>>        something. I plan to tee them into my heating fuel line.
>>>             Will they make suitable tanks for storing biodiesel? I'm
>>>        a bit concerned about the lining. It is apparently a feature
>>>        that makes them more valuable for methanol storage, but will
>>>        biodiesel dissolve it?
>>>                                             Tom
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