[Biofuel] By Allowing White Racists in the Military, We're Training Domestic Terrorists

2006-07-16 Thread D. Mindock
By Allowing White Racists in the Military, We're Training Domestic Terrorists Black America Web.com , Commentary, Judge Greg Mathis, Jul 14, 2006White supremacists believe that the white race is superior to all others and have used their beliefs to discriminate against those that didn't

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread manuel cilia
Dear Kevin, I do this for a living. My company is based in Australia and we supply off-the-homes with power. In outback Australia it can cost upwards of $150,000 to connect to the grid. You should never use a large diesel genset unless you intend to use it to its maximum capacity, running a

Re: [Biofuel] What is sustainable?

2006-07-16 Thread Andrew Lowe
Rexis Tree wrote: What is sustainable? There are voices saying Malaysia and Indonesia oil palm plantation are not sustainable, and therefore the biodiesel they made are no point at all. I am very curious, how sustainable could a plantation be? Is there a way of sustainable plantation?

[Biofuel] degradation of methoxide solution in time

2006-07-16 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
Hi, Is it possible for methoxide solution to degrade ? I've had 400ml of it in 5l container waiting in a cool and dark place (basement) for a couple of months. It seemed to have a bit of some sediment on the bottom, but recently when I tried to use it, I could clearly see it was quite a bit of

Re: [Biofuel] degradation of methoxide solution in time

2006-07-16 Thread bob allen
the methoxide is reacting with CO2 in the the 4.6 L of air in container, making sodium bicarbonate and or sodium carbonate. Rafal Szczesniak wrote: Hi, Is it possible for methoxide solution to degrade ? I've had 400ml of it in 5l container waiting in a cool and dark place (basement) for a

Re: [Biofuel] By Allowing White Racists in the Military, We're Training Domestic Terrorists

2006-07-16 Thread Alan Petrillo
D. Mindock wrote: *By Allowing White Racists in the Military, We're Training Domestic Terrorists* [snip] The U.S. government can't sit around, waiting for the next Timothy McVeigh to reveal himself. By identifying and discharging known extremists from the military, we can stop future

Re: [Biofuel] ants

2006-07-16 Thread Alan Petrillo
Jason Katie wrote: i noticed that there are large numbers of ants in my wife's herb planter, and i have also noticed a /major/ decrease in bug eaten leaves. do some species of ants hunt these pest bugs? or is it just because of the aging cycles of these pest bugs caused them to move on?

Re: [Biofuel] degradation of methoxide solution in time

2006-07-16 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 08:43:29AM -0500, bob allen wrote: the methoxide is reacting with CO2 in the the 4.6 L of air in container, making sodium bicarbonate and or sodium carbonate. That's what I thought. Although my original idea was that lye itself could have reacted with CO2 from air

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Ken Provost
On Jul 15, 2006, at 10:00 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: you can cogen for 5 cents a kwhr assuming you use the heat. Hardware is about 5 thousand dollars unless you want an electric stove. No electric stove. Could you elaborate a bit on the details, please? What hardware are we talking about?

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Appal Energy
Well, since you invited the infusion of other's thought patterns Still it's offensive to just cave in to them, What's somewhat offensive is that it takes that much power to keep you jolly. Your standard load should or could be much less. Peak load (power tools) could be handled by a

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-16 Thread Michael
Some comments added between *** and Very Respectfully, Michael @ Http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BIO Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: [Biofuel] The truth about

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Appal Energy
Why not think as carbon neutral as possible? Todd Swearingen Fritz Friesinger wrote: Hi Ken, how about a 25KVA Genset run on Methanegaz? it seems to me Methane is the Way to go! Why... there is the transport and handling of the Biofuel a lot of manpower involved! You can set up a

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-16 Thread JJJN
Thanks Michael, Very good comments and I have noted them, This was a first draft and I am researching more as time goes on adding bits here and there for impact and strength of argument. Yours have been helpful. Thanks again, Jim Michael wrote: Some comments added between *** and

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread JJJN
Ken, Along time ago I looked at a generator/battery hybrid system for eliminating the grid. At that time power by the Kw was relatively cheap and it didn't break even as far as Dollars and Cents. But it came close when fugitive heat was considered to heat water. But dollars and cents is not

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
Worth doing if only for that. I wouldnt hesitate for a moment to be sans Edison. Every lightning storm I unplug sensitive apparatus since the grid is a big lightning rod. Wouldnt have that problem with my own.KirkJJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken,Along time ago I looked at a

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Ken Provost
On Jul 16, 2006, at 7:48 AM, Appal Energy wrote: Well, since you invited the infusion of other's thought patterns I did indeed, Todd, and your thoughts as usual are cogent. It's true that the comforts of cheap electricity that I've enjoyed all my life has raised the bar of my imagined

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Micro_Cogeneration/ Download the free book in the files section. You can get a deja browser plugin (free) at lizardtech.comYes, a diesel genset Size it to run at 3/4 of max as that is about the peak for fuel efficiency. Maxing them runs them too rich. Like

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
If I had the bucks I suppose all these hi tech appliances would be nice. Unfortunately I dont so I have to use what most people use. I think if you pump your own water 30 kWhrs a day is more realistic. Thats $45 a month. Not so bad.KirkKen Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 16, 2006,

Re: [Biofuel] degradation of methoxide solution in time

2006-07-16 Thread bob allen
it's presence (the bicarbonate) won't hurt, but it represents a reduction in methoxide so a slower reaction. Rafal Szczesniak wrote: On Sun, Jul 16, 2006 at 08:43:29AM -0500, bob allen wrote: the methoxide is reacting with CO2 in the the 4.6 L of air in container, making sodium bicarbonate

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Ken Provost
On Jul 16, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: If I had the bucks I suppose all these hi tech appliances would be nice. Unfortunately I dont so I have to use what most people use. I agree -- THOUSANDS of dollars for a refrigeratorsheesh! I think if you pump your own water 30

[Biofuel] CRP Program

2006-07-16 Thread JJJN
/My note: I found this article about CRP on the web, One other real world problem with the program is Farmers heard it coming or in other words they quickly placed thousands of acres of prairie that only the bravest of fools would cultivate for a crop then converted them into CRP because they

[Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be going bankrupt

2006-07-16 Thread doug swanson
I agree that in tight times, basic or even primitive skills are more valuable than gold. Basics in Agriculture, animal husbandry, health maintenance, knowing how to preserve food without supplies you'd have to get at a grocer's store, blacksmithing, wood working, etc. are all skills that

Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...solar and wind

2006-07-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
years ago I penciled a 20x20 section of a parabola (cassegrain) and proposed storing thermal energy as latent heat in a m3 of FeCl. As I recall it was comprable to 5 US gallons of gasoline. I think the phase change was around 600F. Since the aperture to the thermal storage was the focal point and

Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be going bankrupt

2006-07-16 Thread JJJN
Excuse me Doug but could you let me know what TEOTWAWKI is and what happens when it happens? I feel perfectly ignorant, Jim doug swanson wrote: I agree that in tight times, basic or even primitive skills are more valuable than gold. Basics in Agriculture, animal husbandry, health

Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be going bankrupt

2006-07-16 Thread doug swanson
The acronym stands for the end of the world as we know it doug JJJN wrote: Excuse me Doug but could you let me know what TEOTWAWKI is and what happens when it happens? I feel perfectly ignorant, Jim doug swanson wrote: I agree that in tight times, basic or even primitive skills are

Re: [Biofuel] By Allowing White Racists in the Military, We're Training Domestic Terrorists

2006-07-16 Thread leo bunyan
The problem seems to be when they leave the militaryAlan Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D. Mindock wrote: *By Allowing White Racists in the Military, We're Training Domestic Terrorists*[snip] The U.S. government can't sit around, waiting for the next Timothy McVeigh to reveal himself. By

Re: [Biofuel] By Allowing White Racists in the Military, We're Training Domestic Terrorists

2006-07-16 Thread Jonathan Hardin
Or, Just make sure that they are on the front lines of such combat locations to increase their chances of not being a threat to the people of the United StatesJ. HardinOn 7/16/06, Alan Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D. Mindock wrote: *By Allowing White Racists in the Military, We're

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-16 Thread Appal Energy
I would tend to believe that if you're expressing your belief / faith on paper, you should be the one to polish the words. As for context, it's beyond me how those who are spiritually/religiously inclined fail to be the first on the environmental bandwagon. A) Seems a trifle arrogant and

Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be going bankrupt

2006-07-16 Thread JJJN
Oh, That happened almost 6 years ago right? Ironic Florida should be one of the first states under water. Ok thanks,excuse my folly and ignorance, carry on. Jim doug swanson wrote: The acronym stands for the end of the world as we know it doug JJJN wrote: Excuse me Doug but could you

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-16 Thread JJJN
Todd, Points all well taken, see below. Appal Energy wrote: I would tend to believe that if you're expressing your belief / faith on paper, you should be the one to polish the words. Well actually I am expressing a view point on Global Warming that targets a specific audience. The list

Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be going bankrupt

2006-07-16 Thread doug swanson
It happens every morning of every day in my life... as far back as I can remember. As world events accelerate, it's more like every minute of every day in my life. it gives me something new every day to learn, and to adapt to. doug JJJN wrote: Oh, That happened almost 6 years ago right?

Re: [Biofuel] Home energy system ...was Re: {Disarmed} Telegraph - US could be going bankrupt

2006-07-16 Thread Jason Katie
the truest and best answer to any TEOTWAWKI situation in america is to start farms that grow fruits, wildgrasses, vegetables, oil crops, sugar crops, meat animals, and trees...oh wait WE CANT, that takes work and most fat lazy americans wont want to be inconvenienced by some dirty work. (this

[Biofuel] New Zealand initiative

2006-07-16 Thread Bob Molloy
Hi all, Here's the latest initiative on the biofuel front in New Zealand. Note the cost and the payback time for fleet owners. Prices are in NZ dollars, currently trading at 65 US cents. Regards, Bob. Put an olive in your tank Well not quite, but if David Renwick has his way it could be

[Biofuel] THE ENERGY OF EMPTY SPACE THAT ISN'T ZERO

2006-07-16 Thread D. Mindock
This is an interesting page which includes a video of Lawrence Krauss discussing the perplexing problems confronting today's physicists, theorists,and cosmologists. Peace, D. Mindock THE ENERGY OF EMPTY SPACE THAT ISN'T ZERO [7.6.06] A Talk with Lawrence Krauss Introduction

[Biofuel] cut desalination cost by 75%

2006-07-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=16977ch=nanotechCheap Drinking Water from the Ocean Carbon nanotube-based membranes will dramatically cut the cost of desalination. By Aditi Risbud A carbon-nanotube membrane (quarter shown for scale). The nanotubes are

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread manuel cilia
Dear Kevin, With energy efficient appliances you must weigh up the cost of the appliance compared to how much it reduces the cost of the power system. For e.g if a frig/freezer uses a third of all your power and you could half the energy consumed by those appliances then the size of batteries,