[Biofuel] Another really cute video
What? Logic? perish the thought! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Not censorship, it's just selectorship
Hallo Bob, I certainly remember our sister ship, the Liberty. I also remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident. See the piece at Yahoo News cited below: http://snipurl.com/1xdix We have known this was a manufactured incident for a long time but apparently the whole story has just been confirmed and made official. Makes ones heart warm when pondering on the honesty of ones government. :o/ Happy Happy, Gustl Sunday, 13 January, 2008, 17:57:30, you wrote: BM Interesting comment from a retired US naval officer living in Malaysia. BM regards. BM Bob. BM Friends: BM I am using IE-9, Microsoft's latest browser which provides for multiple homepages. I have two US based News Media pages as homepages, plus Google's homepage... but not the vanilla, BM brown-paper wrapped version! BM I have installed Google homepage from Google Stuff, and opted to modify it with the Malaysian version, in which I get to select Malaysian oriented stuff. BM Vis. http://www.google.com.my/ig?hl=en. BM I have selected Malaysian News, which is a selection of World and Local news articles from local mainstream news sources here in Malaysia. They are, like other MSM sources in Amerika and BM elsewhere, influenced by government agencies, controls and economic factors which MSM organs cannot escape. In Malaysia the Free Press, is probably no more free than elsewhere. BM Yet, when I open all three of my homepage news sources and compare headlines in all three of them, I see the Malaysian News page is strongly outnumbered by the other two, strictly US pages, BM which seem to follow some kind of protocol or party lines... war, war, war... American problems in conflict, and the difficulties encountered exporting and distributing Freedom and Democracy to BM the rest of the world, while the Malaysian component seems to, naively perhaps, assume that most of the rest of the world is about as free and democratic as it will ever be, or not be, and does BM not waste much time on these issues, except from time to time, noticing that US Forces are killing a lot of people here and there, without much commentary on the altruistic motives and sacrifices BM behind such slaughter in the name of Freedom, God, and Democracy. BM Just one more small reason why it is nice living somewhere else. BM And a snip from his previous email re the recent threat to US naval forces in the Straits of Hormuz: BM Bush gets briefing on US-Iran incident BM By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent 10 minutes ago BM Note; Mr. Hunt is a White House Correspondent. I should stop reading here! BM MANAMA, Bahrain - A naval commander told President Bush on Sunday that he is taking the recent confrontation between Iranian and U.S. Navy forces in the Persian Gulf deadly seriously. BM White House press secretary Dana Perino said Bush did not raise the showdown in the Hormuz Strait when he spoke with U.S. Vice Adm. Kevin Cosgriff, commander of the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet, which BM patrols the Gulf. But Perino said Cosgriff told the president that he took it very seriously when an Iranian fleet of high-speed boats on Jan. 6 charged at and threatened to blow up a three-ship BM U.S. Navy convoy passing near Iranian waters. The Iranian naval forces vanished as the American ship commanders were preparing to open fire. BM If a fleet of boats, large or small, ...charged at and threatened to blow up a three-ship U.S. Navy convoy... (NOTE: The US Navy does not sail in convoy, as merchant ships do. Navies sail in BM Formations) and the Task Force Commander took it deadly seriously or even just seriously, it was his duty to open fire and destroy them. Defense of your vessels is the prime reason for him BM being there! He did not fire so apparently he did not perceive a threat, however dramatic his story may sound BM Most war stories are much more spectacular, frightening, and heroic, post-war! If Mr. Bush believed this man, he should have relieved him of Command before coffee was served. BM Bush spoke with Cosgriff after he had a breakfast of pancakes and bacon with troops of the U.S. 5th Fleet based in Bahrain. BM All the military people remember what happened in the past, such as the USS Cole, Perino said, referring to the October 2000 terrorist attack on a U.S. warship, the USS Cole. The attack in BM Yemen's Aden harbor by a small boat laden with explosives killed 17 sailors and nearly sank the Cole. BM Apparently, no one remembers the USS Liberty. I do! BM www.whatreallyhappened.com/ussliberty.html BM -- next part -- BM An HTML attachment was scrubbed... BM URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080114/12b3ce82/attachment.html BM ___ BM Biofuel mailing list BM Biofuel@sustainablelists.org BM http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel BM Biofuel at Journey to Forever: BM http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html BM Search the combined
Re: [Biofuel] For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto
300 seems kind small that's like 15' X 20'. A standard Mobile Home is about 900. Something special about this house? Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto http://deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com/2008/01/for-sale-300-sq-ft-house-in-toronto.html For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto They're proud of it the asking price is $179, 900.00. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080114/b2d6c72b/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Wildbill Sutton.VT - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080114/bbb1bcea/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Cute Video with important messages
Hello Keith, What's wrong with them is what's wrong with local communities because of Big Box Stores, and what's wrong with the whole community as a result. Not sure I understand your statement but maybe it is just a grammatical error? For workers/shoppers it's part of the race to the bottom Bottom of what? If the workers didn't have the job they would be in line at the unemployment office, welfare office or working at another job for the same wages and likely less benefits. As for the shoppers they would be driving to half a dozen locations wasting fuel to buy what they need and can get at one location. for the store workers it's exploitation all the way from the store counters to China/wherever How is exploitation when they are working for a paycheck? Most of the people have no other opportunities due to mostly lack of drive and/or education. In China and other lands around the world, I realize many issues exist with regards to living, working and numerous other conditions, however those countries governments are to blame not the wal-marts of the world. The mom and pop stores sell they same products albeit at a higher price due to the logistics of getting small quantities to more locations not because the worker was paid more, given better working conditions or any such thing. David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello David What exactly is so wrong with Big Box Stores? What's wrong with them is what's wrong with local communities because of Big Box Stores, and what's wrong with the whole community as a result. For workers/shoppers it's part of the race to the bottom, for the store workers it's exploitation all the way from the store counters to China/wherever, for consumer health it's part of the disease, for the environment it's part of the disaster. Waldemart. Please do see: http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=walmart[EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel - walmart 133 matches or http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]q=wal-mart Biofuel - wal-mart 222 matches I can go to one store and buy most everything I need and granted some things I don't really need but want just the same. I don't have to drive 15 miles to five different locations to buy the things I can buy at one location. It is not just about convenience but about efficiency both in my time as well as resources. Think about the overall resources to get products to five different stores or five products to one store! It is not just about my efficiency but about the efficiency at which we use all resources. My local box store buys 90% of its fresh produce from local suppliers when it is available. So instead of driving 24 miles one way to the farmers market I can go less than 1 mile round trip to buy the very same produce. The local farmers here love Wal-Mart! I'd appreciate a little detail to corroborate that last bit, about local farmers round there loving WalMart, if you have any. Can you quote a local farmer at a farmers market saying they love Walmart? Serious request, not a challenge, I'm collecting data on such things. Thanks! Walmart, Target, Costco, Wild Oats are being sued for selling fake organic milk from Aurora. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg71568.html Etc.: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=ISO-8859-1q=walmart+%2Borganic walmart +organic - Google Search Oh well. Chip did say it's an effective approach. Best Keith Regards, David Chip Mefford wrote: Kirk McLoren wrote: Cute video, 9 min, with some important messages about consumption. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/workplace/73239/ This film was selected for the 2008 Sonoma Environmental Film Festival. It is a cute video. But I have some issues with it. Is this about big box vs local business? or is it just yet still another slam against WallMart? Near as I can tell, it's just more slamming of WallMart. That's just fine with me on one level. WallMart certainly has it coming. But on many other levels, I think it's mostly a waste of time, and here's some reasons why. The video isn't going to change anyone's point of view, I don't think. Folks who still accept the WallMart model, are under much more pressure from WallMart than they are from local businesses. This pressure is well understood by folks who have built up the consumer mindset over the last 150-200 years quite well. It's subliminal and quite powerful. The wallmart overlords (heh) understand it really well. Hence the push for the green paint, all the hype about skylighting, 'organic' groceries, etc. This (effective) approach at heading off 'doubts' in the mind of the 'consumer' works. Being of a skeptical (and yes, ofttimes cynical) mindset, noise from wallmart about organic sets off alarm bells with me. But not with 'joe public consumer'. Attacking WallMart outright, as this video does, just shuts 'joe public consumer' down, and closes out any discussion. 'Jpc' already has their mind made up, and attacks neatly sidestep the debate. Folks who understand
[Biofuel] Is Walmart Good For America?
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Cute Video with important messages
LOL David! So many comfortable assumptions, no basis, no facts. Where to start? What exactly is so wrong with Big Box Stores? What's wrong with them is what's wrong with local communities because of Big Box Stores, and what's wrong with the whole community as a result. Not sure I understand your statement but maybe it is just a grammatical error? :-) Not a grammatical error. The whole community is made up of all the local communities, no? Or don't you see it that way? The damage Big Box Stores do is both local and systemic. It's called Big Box blight. For workers/shoppers it's part of the race to the bottom Bottom of what? You don't know? All this stuff is new to you? The bottom of what is something else you can find out about in the list archives. If you really want to know, that is. In which case why not read Stacy Mitchell's Big-Box Swindle while you're at it? http://www.ilsr.org/mm5/merchant.mvc Big Box Swindle If the workers didn't have the job they would be in line at the unemployment office, welfare office The Independent among others reports that Wal-Mart is the biggest single private employer in the United States and it pays rock-bottom wages, which oblige thousands of its lower-end employees to resort to government subsistence, including food stamps, to make ends meet. So if you work for Wal-Mart you could very well be lining up at the welfare office too, both at the same time. Meanwhile I suspect you're subsidising Wal-Mart's wages bill with your taxes. or working at another job for the same wages and likely less benefits. See, eg.: The Costco Way - Higher wages mean higher profits. But try telling Wall Street. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_15/b3878084_mz021.htm Costco had posted a 25 percent profit gain, as well as a 14 percent sales hike. Yet Wall Street punished Costco's stock, driving it down 4 percent. Why? One problem for Wall Street is that Costco pays its workers much better than archrival Wal-Mart Stores Inc. does, and analysts worry that Costco's operating expenses could get out of hand. 'At Costco, it's better to be an employee or a customer than a shareholder,' says Deutsche Bank analyst Bill Dreher. So much for analysts. (And comfortable assumptions.) As for the shoppers they would be driving to half a dozen locations wasting fuel to buy what they need and can get at one location. Yes, that's part of the myth. Drive, drive, drive - you keep saying it. Why don't you try removing driving from your vocabulary and see what you get? for the store workers it's exploitation all the way from the store counters to China/wherever How is exploitation when they are working for a paycheck? Most of the people have no other opportunities due to mostly lack of drive and/or education. So it's their own fault? Of course you can air your assumptions as much as you like, but it's gross and wilful (yes) ignorance to blame a few billion other people for the engineered disasters which have driven them to poverty, disasters from which you personally benefit. You can do that somewhere else maybe, but not here. I don't really expect you to understand that, but rest assured it's not a grammatical error. (If you want to know more, go to the link at the bottom of the page.) I said wilful ignorance: even the mainstream media in the US have covered these issues well, there's a large amount of solid information readily available, it's no secret unless you want it to be. More specifically, three times you've been told to use the list's resources, especially the archives, the last time by me, complete with url's, and you ignored it. Why? No time, too busy? People are usually happy to rid themselves of ignorance, but when it's the kind of ignorance that isn't what they don't know but what they do know that's wrong, too often they'd rather defend it no matter what. That sure suits Wal-Mart et al, and that's why they're happy to go on paying all those mega-billions to the opinion industry. Your head's stuffed with manufactured opinions and you think they're your own. Oh well. Chip did say it's an effective approach. This is what he said (it's still down there at the end): Folks who still accept the WallMart model, are under much more pressure from WallMart than they are from local businesses. This pressure is well understood by folks who have built up the consumer mindset over the last 150-200 years quite well. It's subliminal and quite powerful. The wallmart overlords (heh) understand it really well. Hence the push for the green paint, all the hype about skylighting, 'organic' groceries, etc. This (effective) approach at heading off 'doubts' in the mind of the 'consumer' works. Indeed. In China and other lands around the world, I realize many issues exist with regards to living, working and numerous other conditions, however those countries governments are to blame not the wal-marts of the world. The mom and pop stores sell they same products albeit at a higher
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Cute Video with important messages
Hi Kirk snip (Strange though that he thought there's such a thing as a great nation.) Yes, I call it the myth of the state. A false myth indeed. George Bernard Shaw said patriotism is the conviction that your country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. LOL! I have to agree. It says somewhere on our website that Planet Earth needs no flag of allegiance, but I'm beginning to wonder if Planet Earth can even survive such an anachronistic thing as 200 national flags of allegience for much longer, there just isn't any room for them in the lifeboat. False flags are the only kind there is. I guess Gandhi should be forgiven, after all he was confronting the British Empire, on which the sun hadn't yet quite set, a daunting prospect. Great perhaps as in mighty, bigger and stronger than you. Regards Keith Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, they improved their site and broke all their links, and now even their internal links don't work. Sorry! I've uploaded the pics here: http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/chicks1.jpg Male chicks struggle to survive Unwanted male chicks struggle to survive amid egg shells and garbage in a dumpster behind a hatchery for laying hens. http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/chicks2.jpg Dead and dying male chicks behind an egg hatchery A dumpster behind a hatchery for laying hens is filled with dead and dying male chicks who are of no economic value to the egg industry. From the www.factoryfarming.com site: For every egg-laying hen confined in a battery cage, there is a male chick who was killed at the hatchery. Because egg-laying chicken breeds have been genetically selected exclusively for maximum egg production, they don't grow fast or large enough to be raised profitably for meat. Therefore, male chicks of egg-laying breeds are of no economic value, and they are literally discarded on the day they hatch usually by the cheapest, most convenient means available. Thrown into trash cans by the thousands, male chicks suffocate or are crushed under the weight of others. Another common method of disposing of unwanted male chicks is grinding them up alive. This can result in unspeakable horrors, as described by one research scientist who observed that even after twenty seconds, there were only partly damaged animals with whole skulls. In other words, fully conscious chicks were partially ground up and left to slowly and agonizingly die. Eyewitness accounts at commercial hatcheries indicate similar horrors of chicks being slowly dismembered by machinery blades en route to trash bins or manure spreaders. http://www.farmsanctuary.org/issues/factoryfarming/eggs/ Chicks are fully aware when they hatch, they know perfectly well what's happening to them. More here: http://www.upc-online.org/chickens/chickensbro.html The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated. Mohandas Gandhi. (Strange though that he thought there's such a thing as a great nation.) Best Keith Hi Chip, Excellent video. Independant merchants do not need over paid CEO's and underpaid staff and slave wages for the 3rd world manufacturing workers. The cruelty to factory farmed chickens is really terifying. If they even get that far... http://www.factoryfarming.com/gallery/chicks02.htm :-( Keith If every one patronized independent local stores more we could solve a lot of problems, including better more satisfying employment for people and more protection for the environment. Terry Dyck Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:41:49 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Cute Video with important messages Kirk McLoren wrote: Cute video, 9 min, with some important messages about consumption. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/workplace/73239/This film was selected for the 2008 Sonoma Environmental Film Festival. Kirk McLoren wrote: Cute video, 9 min, with some important messages about consumption. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/workplace/73239/ This film was selected for the 2008 Sonoma Environmental Film Festival. It is a cute video. But I have some issues with it. Is this about big box vs local business? or is it just yet still another slam against WallMart? Near as I can tell, it's just more slamming of WallMart. That's just fine with me on one level. WallMart certainly has it coming. But on many other levels, I think it's mostly a waste of time, and here's some reasons why. The video isn't going to change anyone's point of view, I don't think. Folks who still accept the WallMart model, are under much more pressure from WallMart than they are from local businesses. This pressure is well understood by folks who have built up the consumer mindset over the last 150-200 years quite well. It's subliminal and quite powerful. The wallmart overlords (heh) understand it really well. Hence the push for the green paint, all the hype about skylighting, 'organic' groceries, etc. This
Re: [Biofuel] For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto
In Boulder, that wouldn't be a bad price per square foot... On Jan 14, 2008 5:31 AM, Bill Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300 seems kind small that's like 15' X 20'. A standard Mobile Home is about 900. Something special about this house? Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto http://deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com/2008/01/for-sale-300-sq-ft-house-in-toronto.html For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto They're proud of it the asking price is $179, 900.00. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080114/b2d6c72b/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Wildbill Sutton.VT - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080114/bbb1bcea/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto
Say, in Toronto, that's a BIG house. We're rather small people, you know. And just look at the landscaping possibilities! --- Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Boulder, that wouldn't be a bad price per square foot... On Jan 14, 2008 5:31 AM, Bill Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300 seems kind small that's like 15' X 20'. A standard Mobile Home is about 900. Something special about this house? Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto http://deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com/2008/01/for-sale-300-sq-ft-house-in-toronto.html For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto They're proud of it the asking price is $179, 900.00. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080114/b2d6c72b/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Wildbill Sutton.VT - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080114/bbb1bcea/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Jesse Frayne itsdinner.ca Neighbourhood catering and general joie de livre Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto
Why would anyone, including Torontoans, want to live in Toronto? Bob. - Original Message - From: Jesse Frayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto Say, in Toronto, that's a BIG house. We're rather small people, you know. And just look at the landscaping possibilities! --- Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Boulder, that wouldn't be a bad price per square foot... On Jan 14, 2008 5:31 AM, Bill Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300 seems kind small that's like 15' X 20'. A standard Mobile Home is about 900. Something special about this house? Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto http://deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com/2008/01/for-sale-300-sq-ft-house-in -toronto.html For Sale: 300 Sq. Ft. House in Toronto They're proud of it the asking price is $179, 900.00. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080114/b2d6c72b/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Wildbill Sutton.VT - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080114/bbb1bcea/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Jesse Frayne itsdinner.ca Neighbourhood catering and general joie de livre Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/