Hi Erik
... Technologies that may be
taking a back seat as a result include hydrogen fuel cell electric
vehicles. Nearly 24,000 hybrid vehicles were sold in the U.S. in
January 2008.
Do you really agree with this one? Did I miss something somewhere?
Seems to me that promoting
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At 30 mph with limited driveability, but an interesting demonstration
nonetheless. It may have uses in a more frugal future.
See
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/351903_needle20.html
Also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_Supermileage_Competition
Engine improvements are conceivable -
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it really has gotten insane, hasn't it? it reminds me of those nature
programs where they've recorded audio of insects feeding on plants:
our world has become a cacophony of little munching sounds. such a
model is unsustainable. . .period!
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OK. quick question. Which makes more sense when dealing with american corn?;
1) make liquid fuels (ethanol, butanol, corn oil diesel) and fertilizer out of
it,
2) make gaseous fuels (methane or syngas)and fertilizer,
or 3) burn it in a pellet stove and compost the ashes?
we have a pretty
Hi Dawie
Could it be that the penny is dropping for Monbiot? If he has seen
that human life is not a commodity, might he realise that human
liberty is not a commodity either?
As the most visible current proponent of the centralized,
eco-authoritarian approach, George Monbiot has for some time
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Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:52:26 + (GMT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [New from GRAIN] Svalbard seed vault: not everyone is celebrating
New from GRAIN
February 2007
http://www.grain.org/nfg/?id=557
http://www.grain.org/articles/?id=36
FAULTS IN THE VAULT: NOT EVERYONE IS CELEBRATING
I reckoned we'd been there often enough already not to take
pie-in-the-sky over fuel cells and hydrogen seriously, of course I
don't agree with it.
Sorry. I don't always get the time to follow every thread on here. And
following through on all the links and reading it all is just beyond
me.
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As many of us know, the earth's ability to supply resources for 6
billion people has reached it's limit. Now it's which end use these
resources are assigned. Food or fuel? More of one means less of the
other. We are in decline.
Keith Addison wrote:
Brownfield: Ag News of America
You forgot the third option which is what most of land's productive
output is used for nowadays -- industrial feedstocks. If we cut back
on that, we'd have alot more for both food and fuel.
Z
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