Re: [Biofuel] cure for incurable viral disease

2008-04-24 Thread Craig Barrett
Unfortunately it seems that the magazine references to the discovery aren't available, at least not online. This makes it impossible to verify the claims, particularly that nothing other than the virus is damaged. I didn't read the whole patent, but couldn't find anything in the section on tests

Re: [Biofuel] cure for incurable viral disease

2008-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Bruno Fritz Kirk, You can make that bull-crap device ( as useless as an Hulda Clark zapper ) yourself easely : 1 of the many links: http://educate-yourself.org/be/beckelectrifierschematicandparts.shtml But did you guy's noticed that this crap has nothing to do with Biofuels...? Please

[Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
Google News gives 6,293 results for a search for food crisis, but only 267 results for oil crisis, and most of them are about the 1973 crisis or the coming Peak Oil crisis, not this one right now, though it's the main cause of the food crisis. Here's a news comment that discusses the oil

[Biofuel] Food price rises are mass murder-UN envoy

2008-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
Roundup from ICH: Food price rises are mass murder-UN envoy: Global food price rises are leading to silent mass murder and commodities markets have brought horror to the world, the United Nations' food envoy told an Austrian newspaper on Sunday.

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Brian Schneider
Hello, Just a comment, why don't we in the US do something else that was done in the 70's oil crisis...drop the speed limit back to 55. It is proven to reduce the amount of fuel being used by in some estimates 15 to 20 percent. People that I have talked about that to seem repulsed by the

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Chip Mefford
Brian Schneider wrote: Hello, Just a comment, why don't we in the US do something else that was done in the 70's oil crisis...drop the speed limit back to 55. There were a *lot* of problems with this. I'm not going to go into it all, in fact, I'm barely going to scratch the surface. But

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Brian Schneider
So then what would be the suggestion? Sometimes laws are necessary to help or protect those who can't or won't do it them selves. If on a national level if lowering the speed limit 10 to 15 mph would help decrease our dependance on foreign oil or any oil for that matter then it should be

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
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Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Moran
Speed limits should not be set at the national level, it's a state or municipal issue. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Schneider Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:26 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Roger
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Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Craig Barrett
Laws should be a last resort, but they tend not to be because they're far easier to put in place and are great at making it look like something is being done while not necessarily achieving anything. Also, the point being made by Chip (I think) is that the consequences of making a law must be

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Chip Mefford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Schneider wrote: | So then what would be the suggestion? Sometimes laws are necessary | to help or protect those who can't or won't do it them selves. | If on a national level if lowering the speed limit 10 to 15 mph would | help decrease our

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Chip Mefford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kirk McLoren wrote: | I am in favor of new laws - only if you recind an old one. There are so many laws now the only way you know you are breaking one is if they pinch you. | Kirk Lol! I'd say rescind at least 100 old per 1 new. Actually should

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Moran
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Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Brian Schneider
Interesting conversation. We all agree that the one thing that needs to happen is a change in attitude of people about fuel use or fuel conservation. I am afraid that we are living in a country that has had it too easy too long and no one is going to change anything (or should I say

[Biofuel] an ice age cometh?

2008-04-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
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[Biofuel] Fwd: E Bikes -- Phoenix Racer Hub Drive

2008-04-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
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Re: [Biofuel] an ice age cometh?

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Burck
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Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Chris Burck
laws definitely do matter. just because there are a lot of stupid laws, that's no reason to discourage or oppose sensible ones. there's nothing wrong with a 55mph speed limit. did people ignore it? sure. did most people ignore it? not a chance. people violate the speed limit more now than

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Darryl McMahon
There's an oil crisis? Maybe I don't understand the term. I hear the price is rising for liquid petroleum fuel products, but in a free market economy, that's not a crisis, it's an adjustment. Is anyone with enough money actually unable to obtain oil products? Oddly, I'm not hearing that the

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Perry Jones
Then mandate higher fuel efficiency in vehicles. Oh, I know, put the onus on the victims as has been done throughout history. What do you drive? What is your fuel efficiency at 30 mph? When it matches mine at 75 mph then talk to me. Otherwise, this ain't one of the solutions. Perry Jones

Re: [Biofuel] We Need To Solve The Oil Crisis--Now

2008-04-24 Thread Steve Moran
well, if the ice age is coming, then maybe we all need hummers and big trucks to create more green house gasses ;) 55 is fine for the densely populate tracts of america (the coasts), but its going to be a rea hard sell in the vast expanses of the middle of the country. The federal

Re: [Biofuel] an ice age cometh?

2008-04-24 Thread Keith Addison
Gawd, what nonsense! Anecdotal evidence? Good grief. So on the basis of anecdotal evidence and some thoroughly twisted misfacts Phil Chapman wants us to nuke the methane hydrate. Wow. Isn't there a whole lot more methane hydrate in the tundra? We could nuke Canada and Siberia too, I'm sure