Re: [Biofuel] modified sine and sine wave inverters

2005-11-23 Thread Mike Montour

On 22-Nov-05, at 5:47 PM, Peter Martin wrote:

 Sorry, I didn't catch all the previous thread!

 Any of you have experience with just having a modified sine wave
 powering computer equipment?

Anything that uses a switching power supply should be OK, because the 
first thing it does with the incoming AC is to convert it to DC. CRT 
monitors and laser printers might have problems. Amplified speakers or 
other audio equipment will probably not work well.

Modified sine wave is a marketing term. It's actually a modified 
square wave; the unit steps the battery up to a higher DC voltage V 
and then switches the output between 3 states: +V, 0, -V. This is 
easier and cheaper than generating something that actually looks like a 
sine wave. The RMS (= average for a non-EE) value of the voltage is 
the same as the sine wave it is simulating, but the peak value is 
different and there will be strong harmonic frequencies present (as 
others have mentioned).


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Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: OpAmp Active Filter Synthesis

2005-09-02 Thread Mike Montour
Kirk McLoren wrote:

 Very lossy -- and not recommended.
 Don Lancaster was interested in efficient inverters and the least number
 of switches.
 I think his website is tiaja.com

http://www.tinaja.com/magsn01.asp

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Re: [Biofuel] Another use for glycerine

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Montour

 What is Propylene Glycol?

Not as bad as it sounds from this article.

 Yes, the main ingredient in anti-freeze is in all of these products.
 Shocked?  You should be!

Anti-freeze is something that lowers the freezing point of water.
That's not shocking; sugar or salt will do that.

Also, it is misleading to discuss anti-freeze without mentioning that
both propylene and ethylene glycol are commonly used for this purpose
(and that ethylene glycol is the one associated with the traditional
toxic effects of automotive anti-freeze).

 PROPYLENE GLYCOL is used in:
 Anti-Freeze  * Brake and Hydraulic Fluid  * De-Icer  * Paints and
 Coatings *  Floor Wax  * Laundry Detergents  * Pet Food  * Tobacco * 
 Cosmetics  * Toothpastes  * Shampoos  * Deodorants  * Lotions *
 Processed Foods and many more personal care items.
 Check out your body lotions, deodorant, hair conditioner, hair gel,
 creams, and many more products!

So it's a common chemical. That's still not cause for concern.

By the way, many of those items also contain Dihydrogen Monoxide! See
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html if you are not familiar with this
potentially-lethal substance.

 Propylene Glycol serves as a Humectant - a substance that helps retain
 moisture content, or simply -it prevents things from drying out.

Also not cause for concern.

 A published clinical review showed propylene glycol causes a significant
 number of reactions and was a primary irritant to the skin even in low
 levels of concentrations.
 The American Academy of Dermatologists, Inc; Jan. 1991

Studies like this _are_ worth pointing out. It would be a shorter and
more useful article if it stuck to references like this.

 Has anyone or any company tested the long-range side effects from
 constant use of these products?  We haven't found any.  Do these complex
 chemicals build up in our bodies?  If Propylene Glycol keeps things from
 drying out - how?  If it's absorbed into our bloodstream and into our
 cells, what does it do?  Does it affect any of the simple, natural
 biological functions at the cellular level?  You don't need a study to
 say - it's possible, even likely.

Those are good questions. It sounds like it's worth studying. I expect
that many of the answers are known already (e.g. someone previously
mentioning that PG is metabolized to pyruvate). Here's a quick Google
result that talks about it:

http://yarchive.net/med/antifreeze_eat.html

 You do need a conclusive study to make the producers stop using these
 ingredients! 

The previous paragraph was all about not knowing what PG did in the
body. The article now assumes that if the studies were done, the results
would support the hypothesis that it's dangerous. That's not good science.

 The MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for Propylene Glycol says:  May
 be harmful by ingestion or skin absorption.  May cause eye irritation,
 skin irritation.  Chronic exposure can cause gastro-intestinal
 disturbances, nausea, headache and vomiting, central nervous system
 depression. 

There's an MSDS here:

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/p6928.htm

It says for example
 Ingestion:
  Relatively non-toxic. Ingestion of sizable amount (over 100ml) may
cause some gastrointestinal upset and temporary central nervous system
depression. Effects appear more severe in individuals with kidney
problems. 

So it's not harmless, but it's safer than something like ethanol:

http://www.herc.org/msds/chemicals/ethanol.htm

 PG can have an anesthetic effect.  Other side
 effects on animals exposed to PG include heart arrhythmia, stunted
 growth, decreased blood pressure, and even death.

Possibly valid points, but what conditions, concentrations, durations of
exposure, etc? Without sufficient context it's difficult to assess the
severity of these effects.

 sheet (MSDS) and it may alarm you to find that this common, widely used
 humectant has a cautionary warning in its MSDS that reads, If on skin:
 thoroughly wash with soap and water! What? Aren't we putting this stuff
 on our skins daily, sometimes in copious amounts over long periods of time?

That sounds like standard boilerplate for an MSDS. Sodium chloride
(table salt) carries a similar warning.

http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/S3338.htm


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Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots

2005-08-26 Thread Mike Montour
Chris Lloyd wrote:

 Funny things magnets, I did some work with them back in the 60s, they do
 seem to contain far more energy than they should. Although energy is
 probably not the right word. Use electro magnets to hold 100 Kg in the
 air and you can see the energy being used by the current flow, now how
 do you calculate the energy being used with permanent magnets doing
 the same job. 

The electromagnet example is misleading, because the energy is not
helping to hold the 100kg in the air. Instead it's being wasted as heat
in the wire. The strength of the magnetic field is determined by the
current flowing through the wire, and if your wire had a resistance of 0
then this current would continue to flow without requiring any further
input of energy. Superconducting magnets are commercially available, but
only operate at extremely low temperatures (and are expensive).

Permanent magnets have the equivalent of a very large electric current
circulating within them, due to the way that the atoms line up inside
the material. However this does not mean that you can extract a
sustained flow of energy from them. The closest you can get are toys
like this:

http://www.scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/magnets/gauss.html

 There is no problem in turning off a permanent magnet, it can be done
 electronically or mechanically.Chris.

The usual mechanical method doesn't actually turn the magnet off,
instead it moves it so that its magnetic field is short-circuited
through the device instead of extending outward. This product is an example:

http://www.littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=1593

When you turn it on, the magnetic base will stick to a metal table
with a very strong force. When you switch it off, you can easily pick
it up and re-position it. I would guess that the magnetic boots were an
extension of this concept.

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