Charles,
Originally you wrote:
I have just scaled up to a 150l processor .
I have done as suggested on JtF and scaled up slowly, learning as I go.
Unfortunately, my first couple of big
batches (using creamy canola oil) have not gone so well
At what point did you start having
should start? Should I scale right back to 50l and
work up slowly or could I start at around 80l?
Charles
On 16/06/2006, at 12:44 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Charles,
Originally you wrote:
I have just scaled up to a 150l processor .
I have done as suggested on JtF and scaled up slowly
Hello to all,
I would like to start
storing some biodiesel to be used as heating fuel this winter.
I have two 55 gallon
(209L)drumsthat methanol came in. They are blue tanks with "VP
Racing" on them. I was told that they are only used for methanol and "are lined"
with something. I plan to
Jim,
My lawn is in the middle of pasture land, so grasses of one type or
another grow pretty well. I use sifted compost to bring back areas that have
been damaged
(after a winter of dogs pee-ing on the grass just out the back door).
I have two sifters: a large one with 1/2 hardware
is liquid at zero Celsius, and my oil is solid at 10 degrees,
but I can't see any split at all and, as I said, the product is very
very dark brown, almost black!!
Charles
On 17/06/2006, at 1:59 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Charles,
I think that if you drop back to 80 L you are still making
get a late summer as last year they blossomed - a rare thing
here. The tubers are exceptional eating. I went containers with
Tomatoes and Peppers to save space. I am just amazed at how responsive
plants are to real soil. How are your gardening ventures doing?
Jim
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Jim
to work with!!
Best
Charles
On 20/06/2006, at 4:25 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Charles,
I think you would get a split, whether your chemicals were
pure or
somewhat contaminated. The problem would be more a matter of
achieving a
complete reaction.
i.e. You would get biodiesel
the adjustments I will have to make! I have set up a T-piece on
the fuel feed so I can try small amount of different % to see how I go.
Best
Charles
On 21/06/2006, at 2:30 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Charles,
Then creamy canola it is.
It sounds as though you are getting a reaction
Andrew,
Did you do a wash
test ("shake test") before washing the biodiesel?
Do you perform
quality tests on your biodiesel?
(See JTF: "Quality Testing")
An emulsion at any point
in the wash, even "minor emulsion problems in the first
wash that I could handle pretty good with hot water
- I am, of course, trying to make the best
biodiesel i can, but what % of impurities (ie methanol test failure)
did you burner put up with? I'm down to 10% with my 1l trial runs now
as I tweak the process for my creamy canola.
Charles
On 22/06/2006, at 12:20 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Charles
think the biodiesel will dissolve the epoxy, but
I don't know for sure. Hope that helps. Will Kelleher
On 6/18/06, Thomas
Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello to all,
I would like to start
storing some biodiesel to be used as heating fuel this winter.
I have
Hello all,
I'm interested ingetting
adiesel generator. A friend has offered me a VW Rabbit diesel engine
(48HP) and says it would be great to power a generator. It seems a bit overkill.
I was looking at 4 - 6 HP.
Guidance here would be
appreciated.
Tom
: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel
Methoxide seemed to chew up my epoxy pretty good...
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Will,
Thanks for the reply. I dropped a light inside the tank. The
inside walls are a smooth light tan color.
I decided to put
ieselMethoxide
seemed to chew up my epoxy pretty good...Thomas
Kelly
wrote:Will,Thanks
for the reply. I dropped a light inside the tank. Theinside
walls are a smooth light tan color.
I decided to put some BD in one of them. I have 3 - 4 months
until heating se
alcs.
Doug
- Original Message -
From:
Thomas
Kelly
To: biofuel
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:34
AM
Subject: [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a
generator
Hello all,
I'm interested ingetting
adiesel generator. A friend has offered me a V
-
*From:* Thomas Kelly mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* biofuel mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:34 PM
*Subject:* [Biofuel] VW Diesel to power a generator
Hello all,
I'm interested in getting a diesel generator. A friend has
Zeke,
"You don't want to run it at too low of power
though, or it won't run hot enough, and efficiency will go down, stuff will get
carbonned up, and such. Sort of like cars that are always used for short
run errands."
I seem to recall something about "cold
stacking"?
If the engine
Hello All,
I know it's a bit early
for some of us to be thinking winter, but it occurs to me that the southern
hemisphere is in the thick of it.
I use BD100 in my car and
go to BD70 in the winter. The 30% petro diesel is winterized and prevents my
fuel from gelling.
I'd like to go BD100
flow through a filter."
Tom
- Original Message -
From:
Thomas
Kelly
To: biofuel
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:02
PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Winterizing
biodiesel
Hello All,
I know it's a bit early
for some of us to be thinking winter, but it oc
Jason Katie,
I wouldn't be so terribly concerned even if they were cats. Kitty litter
has a bad rep largely because of a parasitic flatworm. Pregnant women should
not handle kitty litter. The flatworm and its eggs are killed by temps of
hot compost ... 145F.
I'm curious as to how
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wrote:
I
have mine in a shed - boat shops have sound-deadening material.Zeke
is the guy to ask about plans and how it should fit
together...Thomas Kelly wrote:Mike, I have a
concern about noise from a generator. I live in a rural area
closest neighbor
Hey Will,
Why are you still bubble
washing?
Check out stir-washing at
JTF.
I just stir-washed 20 gal (76L)
of BD. It was a bit stubborn went 4 washes. Started this morning will let
final wash (just checked: crystal clear wash water) sit over night. Bubble
washing takes days ..
but I had problems
with emulsification. Because my test batches were so small, it wasn't
too much trouble to just bubble wash them. The product turned out great
with zero emulsification. When I move to larger batches I will stir wash
to save time. Will
On 6/28/06, Thomas
Kelly
Keith,
This is encouraging; using some of the tricks of biotechnology to
enhance traditional breeding techniques.
No gene contamination.
The goal: Improved crops and livestock
The technique: Marker Assisted Selection (MAS)
MAS helps to select the parents that offer the best potential for
Jason Katie,
Follow the money.
My understanding:
The manipulation of genes (recombinant genetics, biotechnology, gene
modification) offered great promise for medicine, agriculture, and industry.
Insulin derived from slaughtered animals had undesirable side effects on the
Mike,
I'd like to think not.
It's a bit odd though that only one variety of blueberry in my garden
had any berries at all. First time I can recall ... over 20 years of
blueberries here. My apple tree flowered no apples forming. Maybe just
too much rain ... there seem to be
Charles,
The impeller in the clearwater pump is metal. Plastic impellers will
eventually fail in pumps used to agitate the reaction.
My experience w. the clearwater pump is that it will handle up to 90L
(~ 24 gal) batches. Above that, even after three hours reaction time, I have
Charles,
As Mikw Weaver pointed out, 1 Clearwater pumps are not self-priming.
Another way to avoid priming each time is to:
Position the pump so that it is level with the bottom of the WVO source
and the bottom of the reactor. This allows it to prime by gravity. I pump
WVO from a
litres of oil anyways.
Joe
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Charles,
The impeller in the clearwater pump is metal. Plastic impellers
will
eventually fail in pumps used to agitate the reaction.
My experience w. the clearwater pump is that it will handle up to
90L
(~ 24 gal) batches. Above
] Pump choice
Tom,
what is the name of the
slow dry, soft set, pipe thread sealant
you use? We are still getting small leaks...
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Charles,
As Mikw Weaver pointed out, 1 Clearwater pumps are not self-priming.
Another way to avoid priming each time
Luke,
If your WVO was used to cook meat such as chicken, you will have some
animal fat which may be causing the middle layer. It will still make
excellent warm weather fuel.
Of course, it might be water.
Heat a small sample to get the water to drop out. Take some of the dried
WVO
buying a larger tank than
about 100 litres since as most people find out you can't get a good
reaction on about more than 90 litres of oil anyways.
Joe
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Charles,
The impeller in the clearwater pump is metal. Plastic impellers
will
eventually fail in pumps used to agitate
Hello All,
I would like to use
the Free Fatty Acids (FFAs) split from theglycerine cocktail, along with
BD, to heat my house + provide domestic hot water.
My burner runs nicely on
100% BD, but when I attempted to add some of the FFAs (5 - 7% by volume), I got
coking on the electrodes in
to be conserned about BD 100 gelling?
Oh, and any idea what the white layer is?
Thanks for your help.
:-)
Luke
From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:50:56 -0400
Luke
I attended a public forum
on Biofuels a while back. One of the speakers, the head ofa biodiesel
co-op, had me perplexed by his repeated assertion that biodiesel can be
usedin 2,5%, " even 10% or 20% blends", but above these levels
engine problems and gelling can occur. He had graphs
stage - 25% second. 3
vigorous washes and its done!
:-)
Luke
From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:33:35 -0400
Luke,
So chicken fat it is. Maybe.
Did you
that the industry
would be growing leaps and bounds as it is.
Todd Swearingen
Thomas Kelly wrote:
I attended a public forum on Biofuels a while back. One of the
speakers, the head of a biodiesel co-op, had me perplexed by his
repeated assertion that biodiesel can be used in 2, 5%, even 10
Interested
biofuellers can contact Mr Renwick at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From:
Thomas
Kelly
To: biofuel
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:53
PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the
Petroleum Industry
I attended a public
] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry
I think you said it Tom;
The money. Possible? Running 5 or 10% BD
means still selling 90 to 95% of the petroleum..
Joe
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Snip
Somehow I know I should be following the money. It must involve
dollars and cents.
Any ideas
of any biodiesel in blends above B-75 until the market
was saturated enough for everyone to run higher blends.
Todd Swearingen
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Todd,
You wrote:
There's greater profit in blending biodiesel rather than selling
straight.
and later:
Unfortunately, economic
and he is growing a crop of winter rape this fall. He
claims you can mix the SVO with winter diesel and don't need to trans
esterify. I am skeptical of course. I have very little info on the
winter canola. Do you or does anyone on the list have experience with it?
Joe
Thomas Kelly wrote
Hello to all,
Todd S. recently made the
point that,it would be better, environmentally, to use
B-75,and share
the other 25% with someone else, rather than have
one person going with B-100. Using the same volume of BD, having one B-75 and
one B-25 reduces exhaust emissions more than one
Hello All,
I live in the northeastern
part of the US. Winters are cold. Diesel cars are rare, oil heat is common. I
would appreciate comments on the following plan:
An individualhas the
desire to share some of his/her homebrewed BD with a person/family in need of
it. This person offers
Joe,
I have a similar story w. the diesel car I bought (216,000
mi/348,000Km). I have spare fuel filters in the trunk along w the necessary
tools. I have changed the filters, but more as a matter of routine
maintenance; never had a clogged filter. I run my car on B-100 and drop to
B-70
Thorton,
Will do. Just wanted to
hear if there were objections that I should be aware of.
Tom
- Original Message -
From:
Thor Burfine
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:56
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sharing
Biodiesel
All
Joe,
Check out the sites Darryl included at the bottom of his post. There is
some very cool stuff including a link to Build an EV. It has instructions,
including costs, components, etc. for converting to an EV. Hondas are
mentioned as being a popular choice
Mike,
When I installed an air conditioner a few weeks ago, I noticed that it
didn't drip, and from outside I could hear a bubbling-popping sound. My
father-in-law told me that a lot of the new air conditioners use the water
they condense to cool themeselves.
Steve,
Regarding misting and mild aeration to help cut down on any emulsions
in the wash.
Emulsions are telling you that something is wrong in the process
leading up to the wash. Ex Water in the WVO or the methanol, faulty
titration, mistakes in measurements or math. Maybe the process
Jan,
Is one of the layers the mineral
precipitate?
Tom
- Original Message -
From:
Jan Lieuwe
Bolding
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 5:50
PM
Subject: [Biofuel] FFA Recovery
I have tried to seperate the FFA and Glycerine
A little help would be
appreciated.
I'm in the US and going
from NY to Hendersonville, North Carolina. I'm leaving tomorrow (Tues
8/8).
I'm trying to locate
service stations that sell BD at the pump. I will be travelling West on Rt 78
past Allentown, PA.
Rt 81 S past Harrisburh and
Mike,
At the time I thought he
was just kidding.
Icouldn't find the
owner's manual . but it's real hot in my attic right now,
so I didn't look for long.
I got a great deal on the
AC. Someone had returned it to the store no box. They probably didn't like
the sound it made
layer and Glycerine layer.
Jan Lieuwe Bolding
2006/8/7, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jan,
Is one of the layers the
mineral precipitate?
Tom
- Original Message -
From: Jan Lieuwe Bolding
To: biofuel
Kirk,
Saw the same in NY, PA,
NC, SC, FL on recent trip.
Tom
- Original Message -
From:
Kirk
McLoren
To: biofuel
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:53
PM
Subject: [Biofuel] sticker on diesel
pumps.
A friend phoned from Montana and said all the diesel
Rafal,
I assume you are doing 1L test batches? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Do you know the purity of the KOH you are using?
I have heard of virgin oil containing some FFA. I have no experience
with such oil.
Your interpretation of the titration color sounds fine to me. The
, August 20, 2006 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] tirating a virgin oil
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 06:29:51PM -0400, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Rafal,
I assume you are doing 1L test batches? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes. Actually these are 1 or 2l test batches. For agitation I use a small
water
Jan,
With well-deserved respect to you
Rafal's oil titrated to .925 - 1.0 mgKOH/g of oil. This is far below
the 5mgKOH/L of oil that you mention as the limit of FFA for flawless a
trans-esterification. It is, however, a significant enough amount that, if
excluded, could contribute
Jan,
You wrote:
The limit of FFA for a flawless trans-esterification is drawn at 5mg
KOH/g of oil. Any value above will demand pre-treatment of the oil.
I have been blending the WVO I collect - titration of 2 - 3 g of
90%KOH/L. I recently ran a 76L batch of poor quality WVO . It
Hello all,
I have been hoping to burn
the FFAs split from the glycerine cocktail to help heat my house. My oil fired
furnace is currently running on B-100. My plan is to add about 5%
FFA.
Early attempts have
produced coking of the electrodes.
I suspect that some glycerine remains w the
Thanks Ken. I'll give it a
try.
Tom
- Original Message -
From:
Ken Provost
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:56
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Washing FFAs
On Aug 25, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote
- Original Message -
From:
Ken Provost
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:56
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Washing FFAs
On Aug 25, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Question #2: Why does the FFA separate quickly
being an alcohol, and ffa being a
lipid that the glycerine will dissolve in the water, but ffa's do not. i
also wonder if the ffa content can be used in place of castor oil to
distill ethanol...another thing to look into.
On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 14:47 -0400, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Hello all
Help!
I plan to heat my house with BD
this winter. I have two 55 gal barrels T'd into the fuel line. About 3 months
ago I filled one of the barrels with quality-tested BD.
Before filling the second
barrel a couple of days ago I removed some of the stored BD, and to my dismay it
was
Kirk,
I agree that
polymerization is generally a very slow process. Concern has been voiced
regarding soy oil and polymerization. Further, on 7/26/04 Tom Leue
wrote:
"Dr. Jon Van Gerpen taught a course segment on the
oxidation issue. He has charts that show a doubling of storage life of
Thomas Kelly mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Help!
I plan to heat my house with BD this winter. I have two 55 gal
barrels T'd into the fuel line. About 3 months ago I filled one of
the barrels with quality-tested BD.
Before filling the second barrel a couple of days ago
Hello All,
I collect WVO from 4
sources and have been blending it into settling tanks. The blends collected in
the Fall, Winter and Spring consistently titrate
below 2.0g NaOH/L. Recently I titrated a blended batch to find that it titrated
at 3.7g NaOH/L. I assumed that this represented
Joe,
When yousuggest
blending "so that the mixture titrates
below 5" I assume you are referring to titration with KOH.
You are probably right ... I'll
use the BD to heat the house. Quality isn't such an issue there I
suppose.(Using WVO that titrated at 5.2g KOH/L, I got my first failed
Hello All,
I've had success making
quality BD using the single stage base method.
I've become curious about the
Foolproof Method (two stage Acid/Base) for a number of reasons. I've read JTF a
few times and have browsed the archives.
Could somebody experienced
with the method help with a
Tom,
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Hello All,
I've had success making quality BD using the single stage base
method.
I've become curious about the Foolproof Method (two stage Acid/Base)
for a number of reasons. I've read JTF a few times and have browsed the
archives.
Could somebody
Hello All,
My brother-in-law is a
diesel mechanic and has done work on my Mercedes. I pay for parts, but he
steadfastly refuses money, gift certificates or any other form of payment for
his labor. If I'm lucky I can buy him lunch.
He has always been
fascinated w. the BD I make. He is
Mike,
What moved me to look at the Foolproof Method was the fact that the WVO
I collect from the same places that consistently titrated (when blended) at
1.8 to 2.2g NaOH /L had suddenly jumped to 3.2 - 3.5 this past summer. It
hit 3.7 one week. Apparently due to increased summer
A year ago today I poured
homebrewed BD into my "new" '82 Mercedes 300SD for the first time. I had
traveled to the southern part of the US (Florida) in order to get a car
that had not been exposed to road salt, potholes, and the transmission wear from
trying to get out of snow drifts.
I
Mike and Joe,
I don't know either.
It seems that we do what
we do and then what we do becomes part of the fabric of what we
are.
Gustlrecently
stated: "It is the content of
the heart which counts the most I think but we don't have any formal
tests for that but the heart is evidenced
Bob,
Good day to you.
I would like to throw in my penny's worth into a discussion between
yourself and Joe S.
Joe: Plants contain many compounds and they can and do work synergistically
when the whole plant is consumed.
Bob: the problem is how do you prove it.
Difficult
Logan is right about using 20% methanol by volume if you want to make
quality biodiesel
Bioheating oil is described at JTF in the section devoted to Heaters,
burners and stoves The process is similar to the single-stage base method,
but uses just 5% methanol by volume.
From
Bob,
I think you are right re: Vit A being toxic. It is definitely
considered to be teratogenic.
I thought it was Vitamin D in polar bear and walrus liver that was
toxic.
One explanation of the evolution of light skin color was based on the
idea that sunlight converts precursors
Kirk, Bob, Terry,
I enetered this discussion admtting "I don't
know."
Now I still don't
know and I'm confused. I always believed that Vitamin A is fat soluble ...
hence it is found in fish oil and can be stored (in the liver).
It seems that there is a class of compounds that
are
Golan,
I have experienced similar
results . not quite as dramatic a difference as yours.
I don't know why, but it
could bethat as water settles, some acids may settle with it. Heat
definitely helps settle the water out.
About 6 - 8 months ago I
brought home WVO that looked good,
Golan,
I use the methanol
solubility test to test for whether there was a complete or incomplete
reaction.
The third layer you refer
to in the wash test is soap.
Even in a complete reaction you will have some
soap.
You would like to reduce
the amount of soap you are producing (3 - 4
Kirk,
This is an absolutely fascinating
study; especially to one with a basic knowledge of membrane structure,
co-transport systems and cytology.
I would think in the 20+ years
since this particular study (1984) there would have been follow-up work on
the use of Cesium, Rubidium, and
Hello Jason Katie,
Congratulations on the recent additions... Twins!
If we even need motivation to make this a better world all we have to
do is look into the eyes of our children.
All the best from my family to yours,
Jason,
When you say
"as for using fossil fuels
to harvest ethanol crops, i would say it is a nessecary evil until the
harvesting equipment can be fueled entirely by alternatives."
I wince a bit.
Why not run the tractors
on alternative fuels?
The cost of alternative
fuels such as BD
Joe,
You wrote:
At one time the sun used to revolve around the earth. This was the truth
at this time. Everyone agreed on it.
What happened to those who disagreed?
In The Politics of Experienc, R.D. Laing wrote: Sanity is merely
collusive madness.
I'm reminded of a
Marylynn,
A friend recently told me of a book dealing with the very thing you are
speaking about; he referred to morphic fields.
The reason the book came up is because we were talking about my dog. I
have a dog that gets very agitated several minutes before a particular
person even
Joe,
Keep in mind that I had a 1M. piece of copper tubing submerged in the
BD for over 3 months. I have a cubie of BD that was still crystal clear
after 2 months (the longest I have stored BD other than the polymerized
stuff) and it will go in the car.
The 50+ gal (200L) of BD in
so I don't
get ahead of myself like I did last winter.
Joe
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Joe,
Keep in mind that I had a 1M. piece of copper tubing submerged in
the
BD for over 3 months. I have a cubie of BD that was still crystal clear
after 2 months (the longest I have stored BD other than
Good Day to All,
Gustl wrote:
And again, mystical experience can be verified if one has enough
interest to take the time (and it is a long process) to investigate.
In August of 1973 I was standing atop a Mountain at an elevation of
about 14,000ft. I saw the plains stretching
Hello to All,
Prof. Bob Allen asked for
evidence re: effectiveness of herbs as medicines. I don't think that's
unreasonable to ask. I've been busy,but finally got around to looking into
it a bit for myself.
On 9/20/06 Bob wrote:
"The ones I have heard of most recently which have
undergone
Robert, Keith, Darryl, Mikeand
all,
I have been gardening the
same plot of land for 27 years now. I live in farm country
once dairy, now more beef and horse farms. I'm surrounded by
pasture land.Before breaking ground on "the garden"I looked at US
Geologic Soil Surveys. It turned
Help me please my story is a long
one.
My
1st attempt at making biodieselwas a 2 L. test batch using virgin corn
oil. Shake test came out OK; bubble washed -produced clear golden
biodiesel.
Repeat
using 2L fryer oil honey amber biodiesel.
I then did two
separate 15 L
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I am not associated with
I have pump-washed a 15L
batch of biodiesel 7 times and the wash water is still milky. Does this indicate
an incomplete reaction?
Prior to washing I did
a"shake test" and got clear separation with only a thin layer between the water
and the biodiesel.
Tom
Todd
Thank you for responding to my question re: pump washing.
Your answer has raised more questions.
I wanted to know if a milky wash after 7 washings indicated an
incomplete reaction. You replied:
Possibly. It could also indicate that your churning pump impeller is
Thank you Keith for your thoughts.
I will try stir washing with hot water.
I have concerns re: stir washing. Can I expect good results if I rig a
paint stirrer and drill up to a tall, narrow 35 gallon wash tank? Will it
provide sufficient agitation throughout?
My original message:
I have
pump-washed a 15L batch of biodiesel 7 times and the wash water is still milky.
Does this indicate an incomplete reaction?
Prior to
washing I did a "shake test" and got clear separation with only a thin layer
between the water and the biodiesel.
Tom
Keith,
Thanks for the JTF link to brix levels.
http://journeytoforever.org/garden_organic.html#brix
I never read the Why Organic section at JTF . I assumed it was a
compelling argument for growing food organically (it is) and I never felt the
need to be convinced. Hence I
Hey there Keith,
Tom, note that it's just an indicator. Some folks have twisted it
about a bit and present high brix levels as a goal in themselves,
mainly because of the pest resistance bit.
Understood.
I have a fondness for measuring recording, and would like to test
(was Nice Table of Vitamin C)
Thomas Kelly wrote:
(snip excellent commentary on food miles / local markets / quality of
food)
My brother grows grapes for his wine making hobby.
I suspect the instrument he uses to check sugar levels may be a
refractometer . good reason to give
the shipping container with
ethylene.
Joe
Thomas Kelly wrote:
snip
In addition to food mile concerns, there is the issue quality
and
choice. In order to ship fruits and vegetables with longer shelf life, new
varieties are developed that contain more connective tissue
Chris,
I agree with you when you say
I can't see anything new about their process and it doesn't seem to
make any sense..
The New Process appears to be the two stage acid/base process.
Stage One involves esterification of fatty acids methyl esters. Stage
Two is the
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From: Pagandai Pannirselvam
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel New Process
Dear Cris,Thomas Kelly,Tom ,KEN ,
From Prof Pannir,Ufrn, BRAZIL
2007/4/10, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Chris
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