Hello Keith,
Thanks for all the helpful information. What a sin that so much waste
of resource is going on. I will post what I find when I titrate the rice
oil.
It's also very helpful to get the info on the Elsbett kit. I did speak
to a mechanic in Sonoma County, CA, who is using Neoteric components, he has
been the only mechanic so far who spoke about the injector and glow plug
issues with SVO conversions.
So much to learn. It's wonderful to have such a terrific site and
community to help in the process! I will pass the information on.
Take care, Frieda
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fryer Rice Oil for SVO
Hi Frieda
Interesting - this is the first time (in five years) that I encounter
used rice oil here. Yet (from a previous message):
It has been estimated that 700 000 t per year of rice bran oil
could be extracted from the 20% world paddy production currently
processed in two-stage mills.
So 80% - equivalent to 2,800,000 tons - gets wasted because more
efficient single-stage milling mixes the bran with the hulls. Even
the 20% makes 231 million gallons a year, another 924 million
gallons in the other 80%. And the bran also contains 40-50% soluble
carbohydrates, for ethanol.
That's the wasted potential with only current production methods.
(Which could easily be doubled, while cutting inputs down by 80% or
more, including fossil-fuel inputs...) What was I saying yesterday
about the powers-that-be taking biofuels issues seriously (not!)?
Despite all the friendly-sounding grunting noises.
Hello All,
I am collecting used rice oil from a local burger joint to use
in my (hopefully soon to be found) SVO converted vehicle. The oil
is fairly clean, smells really nice (not at all rancid),
There's an enzyme in it that acidifies the oil - FFA levels rise
fast, up to 30% from an initial 3%. So it has to be processed
quickly, which stabilises it I suppose. Try titrating it, that will
tell you what you need to know.
and has remained liquid in temps down to at least 40F.
Should go lower than that.
I have not found much information about rice oil, including what its
iodine value is,
90 - 110.
or if it is a good oil to use. Not much information on rice oil
at journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html, that I came across.
Also, I am interested in people's experiences with different SVO
conversions. Likely I will end up with a MBZ 300D wagon. Each
person I speak to proclaims the system they use to be more efficient
than the other. Is there anyone out there who can compare the
commercially available kits, their pros and cons? Which is the
best system to install for use in Northern California.
Elsbett. See:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html
Straight vegetable oil as diesel fuel
Don't get some two-tank system that probably has copper parts in it
and all it does is pre-heat the oil to lower the viscosity, there's a
lot more to it than that, even with a Merc.
Our SVO page is currently being revised. It was three years ago that
I first uploaded it, and it's been revised and added to regularly
since then, but more information has emerged on just what is required
to run an engine on SVO successfully. We don't any longer recommend
simple two-tank systems that only pre-heat the oil. As Niels Ans¿ of
the Folkecenter in Denmark said recently: The secret is injector
and glow plugs, increased injection pressure, + afterglow and good
quality rape seed oil. Or at least good quality oil, if not
rapeseed. Special injectors, special glow-plugs, adjustments to the
injector pump, electronic controls that keep the glow-plugs on and
the heaters heating until a certain fuel temperature is reached. The
only such system available in the US and internationally is Elsbett,
and IMO it's the best system anyway - Elsbett has been deeply
involved in this business for a long time, 30 years and more. No
switching fuel from one tank to the other once it's finally warmed up
enough, no purging before you switch off (or forgetting to) - switch
on and go, stop and switch off, SVO, biodiesel or petro-diesel, in
any combination.
Best wishes
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
http://journeytoforever.org/
Thanks, Frieda
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