Re: [Biofuel] SVO and titration
Hello all, i am at that point of adding a second tank to my vw cabrio, which i converted to diesel. I am sure you all have talked about this before so pardon me or direct me to the archives. I am wondering which valving system have people used with a second waste oil tank as well as the screen to remove most impurities. thanks, ray Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 07:47:25 + To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] SVO and titration A question for SVO users - do you actually bother to titrate WVO to check the quality? In my case: No I dont. I filter to 1um, no further processing. Also, any comments from long-term users of two-tank systems - are they really inferior to Elsbett-type single-tank systems? I think 2-tank is far superior. You have one tank with industrially managed well understood diesel, and an ALTERNATIVE tank with a liquid that may contain fats, acids, water, salt, sugar and anything else it met in the fry pan. So I drive almost always on used soy oil but can switch to a well defined fuel any time. Long term is in my case about 70,000km. Acid contamination can and will damage your engine. This is the second reason for 2-tank. Shutdown and startup on diesel prevents the corrosive WVO from sitting in your engine while the car is parked - which is the overwhelming part of a cars life for most of us. My setup does not work well for short distance. Oskar ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110602/56f092b0/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations
I would like to see this van, what did you send it in. I have not been able to open ray Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:48:02 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations Look for a mitsubishi delica. A buddy of mine just imported one with low miles from Japan. He loves it.JoeLuke Kareklas wrote: Hello All, I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler, Magician, and Balloon Guy.I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if this is a helpful bit of information. Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle. I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton van, not really a minivan type of vehicle. Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO, or Biodiesel fueling, right? Thank you very much. Luke Luke KareklasLuke the Juggler614-764-8010 www.LuketheJuggler.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Change is good. See what’s different about Windows Live Hotmail. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/default.html?locale=en-usocid=RMT_TAGLM_HMWL_reten_changegood_0507 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] 90 litre reactor details published.
Hello, i believe you can offer multiple instructions at a determined price on ebay, i have seen things this way. where is your teachingfacility. i would be interested assuming i would need to travel. I will review the online plans before i write back. I am in chicago and did have several travel plans scheduled this summer and might be able to include a stop to visiit your work. I have people here that woudl be interested in doing a cooperative reactor in chicago. are you doing any diesel auto adaption for wvo. thanks, ray From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 90 litre reactor details published. Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:30:14 -0400 I don't know anything about ebay or how it works. Could I auction it to the lowest bidder? ;) Joe Mike Weaver wrote: You could post a copy of the plans on Ebay but offer it for a penny. That would put a stop to the ripoffs. Joe Street wrote: Hello everyone; I have finally published the details and construction manual for the 90 litre version of my system which I have upscaled from the 30 litre prototype. All info is copylefted of course but I hope people will check it out and give me some feedback. If anyone on this list ever notices my work being sold anywhere (like ebay) please let me know so I can take action. Here is the link: http://www.nonprofitfuel.ca/90%20Liter%20Reactor%20build%20manual.pdf This is the system we are going to use in our local cooperative. I am teaching a course this weekend based on this system. 15 students are registered. I hope it goes well. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1
I would like to see more about the type of conversion work doug is doing ray From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1 Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 04:48:46 +0900 It's not easy to help Doug, no reply, no pictures. I'll try cc'ing this to him direct as well. This is good information Doug offered, in this thread and the American diesels thread, quite a few people said so. Who thinks it should all be available in the Biodiesel section of the Journey to Forever website? Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Hello Doug snip Have pictures of bellhousing being made here but not sure where to put it or send. Doug Will you check this message please? http://snipurl.com/qq84 [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Impressive information you're providing. There's a folder at JtF reserved for photographs and so on for the use of the list. It's not actually part of the JtF website, it's just for us here at the list. Members can send me stuff the list wants to see and I'll put it there and post a link. Send me the pictures direct and I'll upload them and do that. I'm not against having this resource at JtF, and thanks for offering. I have to consider it though, also how to handle it, and just where to put it. Organising it would be quite a lot of work, and there's a queue. But don't be discouraged, let's see how it goes and we'll see what we can do. Quite a lot of people have been writing to Journey to Forever asking about diesel conversions, nearly all of them Americans. Quite a lot also want to know if biofuel (turns out to be biodiesel) will work in their gasoline motor. Some of them just get impatient when you tell them it won't. Why not? What do you expect me to do then? So it might be popular, but that's not the only criterion; it's not our focus, but we don't really make rules about it. People here like what you're doing, that's always a good recommendation. Please keep going. Send me the pictures. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1
has anyone installed a 1.6 vw turbodiesel into a minivan? ray From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1 Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:10:36 -0400 Great write up - makes me miss my wrenching days! If the donor motor is in a body and can be started, you can also do a compression test, a little down is ok as long as it is relatively even across the cylinders. One that is way down indicates trouble. One reason old diesels won't start even if everything looks perfect is lack of compression. Good luck! Mike lres1 wrote: Jonathan, You asked I am a newbe to this. However, will this work on a Jeep YJ??? To start, locate a 2.8 NA Toyota engine with its bellhousing and clutch plates (fan to clutch engine.) If you can not verify the distance the engine has covered or the hours it has run then replace the timing belt, timing belt tensioners and check the injector nozzles to see if they are flat faced or burnt (pitted). If pitted replace the injector nozzles. Take the gearbox and transfer box from the vehicle and place it on blocks so it sits in its correct position, as though it was still mounted in the vehicle (the angles need to be correct longitudinally and across the box.) At this stage the Bell housing should still be on the removed gearbox. There are two types of clutch operating systems fitted to the YJ. One is an internal unit- constructed thrust bearing and slave cylinder, the other is a separate clutch slave cylinder that fits through from the back of the bellhousing and presses onto a clutch fork. This later is very important to get the distances correct in the movement of the fork type. You will need to measure the exact distance from the front face of the gearbox to the center of travel position on the clutch fork along the thrust bearing slide shaft. Don't measure from the bellhousing as this will be discarded. Remove the bellhousing off the Toyota engine. Place the front end of the bellhousing over a 3/4 inch plate of steel and with a marker pen mark all the holes and the inside and outside of the bellhousing onto the plate. Pay particular attention to the locating dowels and the starter motor mount holes. Remove the bellhousing from the YJ gearbox. Place the back end of the bellhousing from the YJ onto a 3/4 inch plate and mark out the plate with a marker pen making sure to get locating dowels in their correct position. Take the clutch plate and locate one with a spline that fits the YJ spigot shaft and the same diameter friction area as the original from the Toyota engine. If you can't find one no worries strip the clutch plate and fit the Jeep center into a new Toyota plate and replace the rivets. With a pin punch mark out the inside and outside of the two plates. Also pin punch all the holes. Note; some of the holes in the copy of the engine plate will need to be Tapped/threaded and one for the clutch fork pivot in the gear box housing will need to be tapped/threaded. Once pilot holes are drilled in both plates remember which holes need to be what size and which need threads tapped into them. Cut out both plates with a cutting torch and with a small grinder clean all surfaces. Drill all the holes to the correct sizes and thread those holes needing threads. Remove the spigot bearing from the center of the crank shaft on the Toyota engine and machine up a bronze bush that is firm in the crankshaft and slightly loose on the end of the spigot shaft. Fit the bush to the Toyota crankshaft. (A bush is okay as the Nissans use a bush and so do many other vehicles. The needle rollers that come out are not so easy to locate, hence the bush option. Assemble the clutch and pressure plate onto the Toyota engine, making sure that the spigot shaft slides in with ease. Fit one plate to the rear of the engine and one to the front of the gearbox. Keep the gearbox as it was blocked up on wood chocks or some such so that it sits well off the ground but in the exact angles and position it would when in the YJ. Slide the engine back onto the spigot shaft making sure that the distance that you measured to the center of the clutch fork from the face of the gearbox is where the clutch pressure plate rests on the clutch thrust bearing. Check that all is aligned with all bolts in place and the rear engine plate you have made parallel to the front gearbox plate you have made. Also the engine back where the clutch fork was measured to be in the center of its travel and the engine not leaning to either side. That is no lean on the engine. Make sure at this stage that the engine and gearbox are firmly chocked in this position. With 1inch by 1/8 inch flat bar cut lengths to go under the engine bolts on the plate you made for the engine and extend
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel
what site are you speaking of, i am considering installiing a vw 1.6turbo diesel, with trans into a chryser mini van. thanks From: lres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:48:10 +0700 Hello all, If any one wants to make a light truck or 4 wheel drive such as Ford, Chev or Jeep conversion to a Toyota or some such Diesel engine there are some quite easy steps to achieving it using the original transmission etc. Can do this on the JtF sight as can give pictures and instructions. If you want to know how to fabricate the adapters we can do it on the JtF sight. If this is okay with the admin. Doug -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Lao Telecom MailScanner with NOD32, and is believed to be clean. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] [solar-ac] new highly efficient solar powertechnology?
Hello, I read your post on what your cost was to build a 500 watt wind gen. I was curious as to the wind speed it requires . I'm near lake mich. in chicago where we do get a pretty constant air movement. and as i plan to move to the rurals out west i have begun to work on proto types of generation mostly diesel based though wind and batteries is the other arm of such a system. thanks, ray From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [solar-ac] new highly efficient solar powertechnology? Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:56:02 -0800 My power co will give you $600/1kw of generating capacity up to 5kw generation capacity. Then they buy it at 2 or 3 cents per kw/h generated. The most costly part is it has to pass a inspection by the state and use state approved products and parts. I can build a 500 watt wind generator for 2~300 no problem. I have been looking at building a 1kw generator just to see what it will cost. Now if only I could get around the we only like type A B and C gear for the $600/kw incentive I could break even right off the bat. I suggest others ask there power co about such as well (mines a co-op so that could be a big difference) Jeromie Reeves Zeke Yewdall wrote: Currently grid tied PV pays back in between 5 years and 60 years, depending on how sunny the climate is, how much electricity costs, and what sort of incentives are in place. In Colorado, with the incentives we have now, it's about 13 years. A 50 watt panel is actually pretty small nowadays. Between 120 and 200 watts is more common. On 2/17/06, Chris lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My attitude is a little more forgiving. If all they have to offer is what you mentioned earlier, then I could not have repeated your sentiments any better. But first, I want to see the numbers. I looked up the cells with Google and one site said the cost of a 50 watt panel was recouped in 2 years, how does that compare with the old type of panel? Chris Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Household electricity consumption questions, remarks,
interesting idea, I suppose you install an exciter to the alt and have you tried to use a pemenent magnet motor (some wiper motors) to generate power. I'm pulling parts together to generate power off my bicycle-indoors thanks, ray From: Robert Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Household electricity consumption questions, remarks, Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:17:44 - Michael, to charge up a bank of car batteries, how about making your own miniature wind farm? car alternators fitted with car radiator fans and sited on the roof of your garage. With some development, they could give you all the energy you need. I currently use one to power the lights in my garage, it works great Regards Bob - Original Message - From: Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 4:08 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Household electricity consumption questions, remarks, On Sunday 20 November 2005 5:28, Michael Nehring wrote: Hi, there is a project to make a solid state controller to use a chest type freezer as a frig. Works well apparently... (google ata: Alternative energy assoc in Melbourne, Victoria Australia for details of kit.) regards Doug Hi all, In about 8 months or so, I and my (future) wife will buy our first house. One of my goals is to have a relatively high level of energy self-sufficiency (without going bankrupt since we currently don't have a ton of cash lying around). First question: does anyone know of any charts/statistics of household energy consumption. I'm not so much interested in kilowatthours per day, but rather how the usage is divided up. This will make it easier to plan what areas typically need to be improved. On another note, have any of you guys already looked at this: http://mtbest.net/chest_fridge.html. It's a fridge that uses only .1 kw-hours/day (that's around 37 per year, and at $.1/kWh, that's less than $4 year if you're on the grid). The idea is surprisingly simple. Another question: does anyone know how many kilowatt hours are stored in a normal car battery (a battery for a standard sedan, I suppose)? I've been thinking about hooking an inverter up to a car battery (or probably an array) to power various devices in the house. However, I don't know how much power is actually in a fully charged battery. Here would be one idea to charge the batteries: I just install a few extra alternators in my car, and have those charge the batteries which would be stored in the trunk. Assuming the car is running biodiesel, then the electricity would be produced by biodiesel. Does the idea sound reasonable? Or does it have too many drawbacks and pitfalls? Are there other 12V batties that are better designed for household-type uses? (12V so that I can charge it with an alternator, since I have a few alternators lying around, and can get them for near to free if I go for used). How long does it take to charge an empty car battery? If it doesn't take long, maybe I could build a simple treadmill-like device for the car, so the car spins a wheel, which in turn spins a dozen or so alternators to charge a dozen batteries at once. While it isn't the most efficient method, it would be cheap, since the motor would stay in the car, and the car would serve other purposes (that is, getting places). I guess that's it for now. If any of you guys have any tips for common sources of waste in a house, I'd be happy to hear them (I'm already planning a rainwater harvesting system and a greenhouse for winter food production). Thanks, -Michael ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] new biodiesel store
question. I've wondered weather washing was so important based on peoples use of non washing systems with good luck. So of course then the chemistry side of make fuel correctly is most important I understand the tank build and with good trade skills, will make my own processor. I wondering about the chemistry though is there an archive that better describes titration and thus formulating the methaloxide mix. Also i see very almost nothing on glycerin use/recycle From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] new biodiesel store Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:52:50 +0900 source : http://www.b100fuel.com/ URL of the new biodiesel store : http://www.biodieselwarehouse.com/index.html looks interesting for US FD Take care. Lots about much of that stuff in the list archives, not all of which would inspire confidence. Processor kits? Yet more Appleseed 200-litre processors with an underpowered 1 clearwater pump, etc etc. Build your own. And, no doubt, lots of very useful info about how to deal with washing problems rather than making the stuff properly in the first place and not having any washing problems. And so on. You're better off here, for free. Harbor Freight Tools 1 clearwater pump - Price: $49.00 Sale price: $39.00 http://www.biodieselwarehouse.com/pumps.html Direct from Harbor Freight Tools (ITEM 1479-0VGA): $34.99 http://www.harborfreight.com/ Recipes: shake, rattle and roll, LOL! Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
