Re: [Biofuel] Garden Produce

2007-07-08 Thread Darryl McMahon
Had my first feed of raspberries.  The season has been poor so far for 
the garden.  Late May/early June was HOT and dry, so the spinach and 
lettuce bolted before giving good leafage.  Radish all died one weekend 
I was away - mini-heat wave - they had been doing very well till then. 
Lost about half the pea vines then too.  Latest project is tree pruning 
(not fruit trees - can't get cherries to germinate - latest batch of 
pits appear to have been eaten by fieldmouse).  Wild spinach doing very 
well, trying to invade the tomatoes.  Squash also appears to be 
progressing nicely.

Tomorrow, I'm ordering the new roofing for the cottage - all metal as 
part of rainwater collection.  Then to complete the cistern this summer 
as part of the foundation build, and we should finally have a 
four-season capability.

This afternoon, I put in an offer on yet another electric tractor.  This 
is a rescue mission, and a bit of a basket case.  But better than 
letting it go to the wrecking yard.

Well, back to Web updates.

Darryl

robert and benita rabello wrote:
Although it's been a pretty lousy gardening season thus far (too 
 cool, a LOT of rain and not enough sunshine) our vegetable beds have 
 been overflowing with produce.  I can honestly say that after eating 
 fresh spinach, beet leaves (mmm!!!) and lettuce from our garden, anyone 
 who hasn't had home grown produce like this isn't eating the best food!
 
 We also have had a fair quantity of strawberries, despite the cool weather.
 
 And the BEST news of all is that my longsuffering sweetheart is now 
 officially convinced that compost is better for plants than the 
 mineral salts she'd been pushing on me for the past four or five years.
 
 Now, if only I could get my fruit trees to cooperate . . .
 
 robert luis rabello
 The Edge of Justice
 The Long Journey
 New Adventure for Your Mind
 http://www.newadventure.ca
 
 Ranger Supercharger Project Page
 http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Garden Produce

2007-07-02 Thread Thomas Kelly
Robert,
 Always great to get a garden report from you.

 We've had plenty of sun, but it's been dry. You're getting our rain. We're 
getting your sunshine. The garden is doing quite well. Compost enriched soil 
holds water. Top-down feeding with a thick layer of compost keeps water from 
evaporating.
 Although I've been composting for years, your conversation with Keith last 
year (composting) inspired me to make literally tons of compost. I never had a 
better, problem-free garden. I now see myself as a grower of soil who 
essentially selects appropriate varieties of plants to grow in it.
 
 I can honestly say that after eating fresh spinach, beet leaves 
(mmm!!!) and lettuce from our garden, anyone who hasn't had home grown 
produce like this isn't eating the best food!

 Agreed. 
 Fruits and vegetables have been bred with more concern for increasing 
their transportability, even at the expense of taste. Farming practices may 
well compromise nutritional quality. 
 I sense a growing move towards locally produced food. Restaurant menus and 
advertisements highlighting locally produced food. Stores selling more local 
produce, milk and meats. Farm markets are sprouting up again. More air time, at 
least on radio, is being devoted to the issue. Sustainability is even seeping 
into the discussion. 
 There seems to be a confluence of things fuelling the move  .  food 
miles, quality control issues with industrial food production, but I think for 
many, it's a simply matter of taste. Local producers grow varieties that grow 
well in their area. They are more concerned with taste than how well the 
variety transports. The produce can be picked when it is ripe and at its best. 
Compare a local strawberry or tomato to one that was designed to be eaten a 
week or more after it was picked, with added connective tissue so it can be 
handled and transported, but at the cost of flavor.

I grow beets. I've never tried cooking the greens. Can they be cooked like 
spinach or just eaten as salad greens?

 I've been thinking about your fruit trees. I had hoped that the arrival of 
lady bugs (ladybird beetles) was going to solve the problem.
 I had a flower bed in which I insisted on growing flowers of my choice. No 
matter how hard I tried the bed always was a disappointment. My wife 
(sweetheart) took over the bed and she noted which plants did best, which did 
worst. She then looked at what conditions the ones that did best thrived under 
and the same for the ones that did worst. A fairly clear picture emerged. She 
then selected plants that liked or at least tolerated the conditions in that 
particular location. She turned it into a beautiful flower bed. 
 This may not solve the fruit tree problem. Sometimes a condition exists 
 soil depth, drainage, even obstruction of air flow .  making it 
difficult to grow a particular plant in a particular spot. Good compost and 
plenty of it may help    won't hurt.

 Best Wishes,
 Tom
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  From: robert and benita rabello 
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  Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:45 PM
  Subject: [Biofuel] Garden Produce


  Although it's been a pretty lousy gardening season thus far (too cool, a LOT 
of rain and not enough sunshine) our vegetable beds have been overflowing with 
produce.  I can honestly say that after eating fresh spinach, beet leaves 
(mmm!!!) and lettuce from our garden, anyone who hasn't had home grown produce 
like this isn't eating the best food!

  We also have had a fair quantity of strawberries, despite the cool weather.

  And the BEST news of all is that my longsuffering sweetheart is now 
officially convinced that compost is better for plants than the mineral salts 
she'd been pushing on me for the past four or five years.

  Now, if only I could get my fruit trees to cooperate . . .

robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
The Long Journey
New Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/

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Re: [Biofuel] Garden Produce

2007-07-02 Thread robert and benita rabello

Thomas Kelly wrote:


Robert,
 Always great to get a garden report from you.



   Thanks, Thomas!

 
 We've had plenty of sun, but it's been dry. You're getting our 
rain. We're getting your sunshine. The garden is doing quite well. 
Compost enriched soil holds water. Top-down feeding with a thick layer 
of compost keeps water from evaporating.



   Something's been funky with the jet stream this year . . .  That, 
coupled with frequent storms of increasing intensity has made for an 
interesting year . . .


   The insulating effect of compost is genuine.  This summer, however, 
we've had so much rain that I worry all my plants are developing shallow 
root systems that won't sustain them when the hot weather finally 
arrives.  We're going away for two separate weeks this month and next, 
so we depend on a certain drought tolerance in our garden that's been 
fairly consistent over the past three years.


 Although I've been composting for years, your conversation with 
Keith last year (composting) inspired me to make literally tons of 
compost. I never had a better, problem-free garden.



   Agreed!  Yesterday I pulled some new compost out of my bin.  It 
looked and smelled better than any compost I've ever made, but there 
wasn't as much of it as I'd like.  I think all the rain we've been 
getting simply isn't good for the process.  My sweetheart keeps 
wondering what I'm going to do with all of that compost, but we've got a 
fairly large property for a city lot and very little of it is in lawn.  
I need a LOT of compost to build up the soil around here.


I now see myself as a grower of soil who essentially selects 
appropriate varieties of plants to grow in it.



   I agree with your assertion, but we're still trying to figure out 
what grows that I enjoy eating.  We can grow potatoes and purple beans 
like mad around here.  The only trouble is that I grew up eating brown 
rice and red beans and though I like purple beans, I don't really care 
for potatoes.  I'd LOVE to have orange trees, but they'd never survive a 
winter in this area . . .




 Fruits and vegetables have been bred with more concern for 
increasing their transportability, even at the expense of taste. 
Farming practices may well compromise nutritional quality.
 I sense a growing move towards locally produced food. Restaurant 
menus and advertisements highlighting locally produced food. Stores 
selling more local produce, milk and meats. Farm markets are sprouting 
up again. More air time, at least on radio, is being devoted to the 
issue. Sustainability is even seeping into the discussion.
 There seems to be a confluence of things fuelling the move  
.  food miles, quality control issues with industrial food 
production, but I think for many, it's a simply matter of taste. Local 
producers grow varieties that grow well in their area. They are more 
concerned with taste than how well the variety transports. The produce 
can be picked when it is ripe and at its best. Compare a local 
strawberry or tomato to one that was designed to be eaten a week or 
more after it was picked, with added connective tissue so it can be 
handled and transported, but at the cost of flavor.



   I learned this lesson many years ago when I first met my 
sweetheart.  She came down to California while we were dating and 
complained about our tasteless strawberries.  Having never eaten 
anything other than a California strawberry, I thought she was being a 
bit of a snob.  The following summer, however, I went strawberry picking 
with her in Whatcom County, Washington.  The difference between a fresh 
berry from the field and the ones I'd always eaten in the supermarket 
was astonishing!


   We don't buy strawberries anymore.  One of our raised beds is FILLED 
with strawberry plants, and because we don't spray our produce, we're 
confident that we're getting wholesome, healthy (and delicious!) fruit 
from our own property.  There's a satisfaction in this that is hard to 
quantify.


 
I grow beets. I've never tried cooking the greens. Can they be 
cooked like spinach or just eaten as salad greens?



   Both.  My sweetheart uses the leaves in her beet soup, but like 
spinach, I prefer them raw.  (And like you, my sweetheart is also my 
wife.  We're coming up on 18 years of marriage in September.)  I like 
salads that have a variety of greens so that the flavors mingle as I eat.


 
 I've been thinking about your fruit trees. I had hoped that the 
arrival of lady bugs (ladybird beetles) was going to solve the problem.



   It probably would have if I hadn't sprayed them with soap!  (I 
didn't know what they were . . . Honest!)


 I had a flower bed in which I insisted on growing flowers of my 
choice. No matter how hard I tried the bed always was a 
disappointment. My wife (sweetheart) took over the bed and she noted 
which plants did best, which did worst. She then looked at what 
conditions the ones that did best 

[Biofuel] Garden Produce

2007-07-01 Thread robert and benita rabello
Although it's been a pretty lousy gardening season thus far (too cool, a 
LOT of rain and not enough sunshine) our vegetable beds have been 
overflowing with produce.  I can honestly say that after eating fresh 
spinach, beet leaves (mmm!!!) and lettuce from our garden, anyone who 
hasn't had home grown produce like this isn't eating the best food!


We also have had a fair quantity of strawberries, despite the cool weather.

And the BEST news of all is that my longsuffering sweetheart is now 
officially convinced that compost is better for plants than the 
mineral salts she'd been pushing on me for the past four or five years.


Now, if only I could get my fruit trees to cooperate . . .

robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
The Long Journey
New Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/

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